Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-11-12 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
To compare an alternative:

A live service could look up the relationship in real time as a person
clicked.
Meaning you could make a map with the wikidata feature, without adding
anything to OSM.

Is simply using OSM as a cache for the output of a script that can be run
later?
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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Pieren, Randy, all,

2014-11-12 11:14 GMT+01:00 Pieren :

> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Randy Meech 
> wrote:
>
> > It's that the US org has a demonstrated track
> > record of running large conferences very well, and it seemed like a
> better
> > partner for this.
>
> I'm sure other countries can organize large conferences as well. The
> location inside the country is more important than the country itself
> (all large conferences have the same needs).
>

+1

> For context, during this submission process the Buenos
> > Aires event didn't post a schedule until the last minute, had sponsorship
> > issues with logos not correct, not up on time, etc.
>
> For such issues, I would expect some support from the foundation. To
> my mind, since OSM is a worlwide project, the SOTM's should play like
> all international events and should happen around the world, not
> excluding any one. And like football world cup or olympic games, it
> should target a kind of "continents rotation policy" and not
> exclusively "Europe or US" (idealy).
>

+1


>
> > This conference will be
> > very visible and we can't have stuff like that happening, so we opted for
> > the US group.
>
> Visible... in US. This is always the same. The conference is mostly
> visible in the country where it is organized. Your request and
> arguments sound a bit too much US centric and will probably hurt a
> large part of the community.


Yes, IMHO we could have the chance for a great visibilty, but I can not see
the NY bid here anymore ...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2015/Call_for_venues/Toronto,_Canada

it was there, but withdrawn, so it is pointless to discuss about SoTM 2105
in NY.
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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Michael Kugelmann

On 12.11.2014 17:52, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Michael Kugelmann 
mailto:michaelk_...@gmx.de>> wrote:


But I would prefer more to have the SOTM circulating the globe...

So I wouldn't say that having SotM be in New York after Buenos Aires 
is relatively close.

I don't measure close always in numbers, but in regions/continets.


Also remember that the first 4 SotMs were all in Europe.
maybe because the very biggest part of the community was located there 
and the local community was willing to organize a SOTM? To make it 
clear: I was not involved in the organisation of these conferences 
neither the decission process for the location (and I am not at all 
aware which criteria have been used in the decision process).


But what I really would like to see is that teh SOTM is going around the 
continets  =>  Africa would be very fine. Although: the was no bid for...



Cheers,
Michael.

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi JB, all,

2014-11-12 16:02 GMT+01:00 JB :

> Hello there,
> At the beginning that this discussion, I guessed it could turn sour rather
> quickly.
> Let's just say that, as a mere contributor, I would just not understand if
> NYC were attributed the SOTM 2015 whithout having submitting an official
> request that would be considered on the same level as all other proposals.
> I would disaprove any shortcut, UN or not UN.
>

+1


> After the saga of the OSMF Board, I guess a second such epic situation
> would do no good to the contributor community.


+1

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Michael Kugelmann 
wrote:

> I personally have a somehow different opinion: 2014 was in (South)
> America, so why host the next SOTM again relativeley close to there (from
> the viewpoint of an European)? OK, the UN is prestigious location for such
> a meeting. But I would prefer more to have the SOTM circulating the globe...
>

Last year's SotM was in Birmingham and the year before that was in Tokyo.
The distance from Tokyo to Birmingham is about 9,500 km. On the other hand,
the distance from Buenos Aires to New York is a comparable 8,500 km. So I
wouldn't say that having SotM be in New York after Buenos Aires is
relatively close. Also remember that the first 4 SotMs were all in Europe.
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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread JB

Hello there,
At the beginning that this discussion, I guessed it could turn sour 
rather quickly.
Let's just say that, as a mere contributor, I would just not understand 
if NYC were attributed the SOTM 2015 whithout having submitting an 
official request that would be considered on the same level as all other 
proposals. I would disaprove any shortcut, UN or not UN.
After the saga of the OSMF Board, I guess a second such epic situation 
would do no good to the contributor community.

JB.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Randy Meech
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Oleksiy Muzalyev <
oleksiy.muzal...@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>  It would be a challenge to fill up this hall with the capacity of 1800+
> in any case. If it is a large combined event, it could generate positive
> international publicity for the project.
>

Our proposal said 1,200, but because of a large balcony area it can have
800 attendees without feeling empty. Since DC last year was 500-600, I
think we can hit at least 800.

Pic:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2o6kn0apqsj9rdi/2014-09-19%2009.55.05.jpg?dl=0

The UN has got headquarters and large halls in three other cities, -
> Nairobi, Vienna, and Geneva. So this approach could be continued later in
> other cities too.
>

Sounds great -- we can make introductions when ready!


> And there is still more than enough of time till June to obtain a visa.
>

Yes! Right now we're raising money for scholarships -- the proposal had 80
total and 50 international. We wanted to leave enough time to get visas.

-Randy
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Re: [OSM-talk] Location SOTM 2015?

2014-11-12 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Michael Kugelmann  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> as I didn't read anything about it: was there an announcement about the
> location for the 2015 SOTM at the 2014 SOTM Buenos Aires?
> IIRC there was a statement about the intention to announce the 2015
> locataion there...

The Waiting (is the hardest part)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg$t=0m14s
:)

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
I meant that the UN General Assembly Hall is an appropriate venue for a 
combined Stated of the Map (EU, US, World, etc.). There was such a 
suggestion.


It would be a challenge to fill up this hall with the capacity of 1800+ 
in any case. If it is a large combined event, it could generate positive 
international publicity for the project.


The UN has got headquarters and large halls in three other cities, - 
Nairobi, Vienna, and Geneva. So this approach could be continued later 
in other cities too.


And there is still more than enough of time till June to obtain a visa.

brgds
Oleksiy

On 12.11.2014 13:22, SomeoneElse wrote:

On 12/11/2014 03:13, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
  They are technically extraterritorial through a treaty agreement 
with the U.S. government (1).


Good luck getting there without a US visa though!

Cheers,

Andy



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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread SomeoneElse

On 12/11/2014 03:13, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
  They are technically extraterritorial through a treaty agreement 
with the U.S. government (1).


Good luck getting there without a US visa though!

Cheers,

Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-12 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Randy Meech  wrote:

> It's that the US org has a demonstrated track
> record of running large conferences very well, and it seemed like a better
> partner for this.

I'm sure other countries can organize large conferences as well. The
location inside the country is more important than the country itself
(all large conferences have the same needs).

> For context, during this submission process the Buenos
> Aires event didn't post a schedule until the last minute, had sponsorship
> issues with logos not correct, not up on time, etc.

For such issues, I would expect some support from the foundation. To
my mind, since OSM is a worlwide project, the SOTM's should play like
all international events and should happen around the world, not
excluding any one. And like football world cup or olympic games, it
should target a kind of "continents rotation policy" and not
exclusively "Europe or US" (idealy).

> This conference will be
> very visible and we can't have stuff like that happening, so we opted for
> the US group.

Visible... in US. This is always the same. The conference is mostly
visible in the country where it is organized. Your request and
arguments sound a bit too much US centric and will probably hurt a
large part of the community.

Pieren

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