Re: [OSM-talk] [Hot-francophone] Haïti : CNIGS aerial cover / couverture aérienne du CNIGS
Hi Jean-Guilhem,
Thanks for making this imagery available. Can you kindly clarify the
license and the exact geographic footprint? It would also be really
helpful to have more details about accuracy and whether ground control
was used in the orthomosaicing process.
With regards to your messages to the HOT list I believe they are being
moderated for reasons related to previous conduct. Since this is not
your first complaint, would you please take the lead to draft a
proposal for governance of the HOT mailing list?
As you said, the HOT list is open all humanitarian OSM mapping groups,
and a proposal on the wiki could be a concrete first step for the
community to discuss and move forward.
Here are also some materials that may be helpful or could be referenced:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Community_Code_of_Conduct_(Draft)
https://github.com/osmlab/codes-of-conduct/blob/master/mailing_lists/code_of_conduct.md
Thanks!
Cristiano
On Oct 25, 2016 3:29 AM, "Jean-Guilhem Cailton" wrote:
>
> (Version en français ci-dessous)
>
> Hi,
>
> An aerial reference cover of the western end of Tiburon Peninsula has
> been made available by CNIGS (Centre National de l'Information
> Géographique et Spatiale), Haiti national mapping agency. It was taken
> in 2014-2015, with a resolution of 25 cm. It is hosted by OpenStreetMap
> France. A few tiles and strips are currently missing, due to the
> difficulty of connections with Haiti.
>
> If you are to realign data or images, you should use it as reference.
>
> TMS URL for JOSM:
> tms[23]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/haiti_cnigs_2014_2015/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
> (This same layer was first started with coverage of the areas covered by
> drones after hurricane Matthew).
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
> PS : After some "post-factual" messages, it could be necessary to recall
> that my messages to the h...@openstreetmap.org mailing list have been
> delayed and even often completely blocked since more than a year. That
> is why I also now address them to the Talk list, so that this be visible
> publically. No justification whatsoever was ever given, in spite of many
> requests - not even an example of an inappropriate email.
> My last blocked emails were about drone images after Matthew. By the
> way, that subject was considered interesting enough by AFP to publish
> this article by Amélie Baron, that appeared around the World:
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/drones-help-identify-post-hurricane-matthew-needs-haiti-190702633.html
> These repeated blocks, against OSM lists rules and simple human decency,
> constitute abuse of entrusted power. And it is certainly not for general
> interest.
>
> Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum
>
> -
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Une couverture aérienne de référence de l'extrémité ouest de la
> Péninsule de Tiburon a été rendue disponible par le CNIGS (Centre
> National de l'Information Géographique et Spatiale), l'institut
> géographique national haïtien. Elle a été prise en 2014-2015, avec une
> résolution de 25 cm. Elle est hébergée par OpenStreetMap France.
> Quelques dalles et bandes manquent pour le moment, en raison des
> difficultés de connexion avec Haïti.
>
> Si vous réalignez des données ou des images, vous devriez l'utiliser
> comme référence.
>
> URL TMS pour JOSM:
> tms[23]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/haiti_cnigs_2014_2015/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
>
> (Cette même couche a commencé par contenir une couverture des zones dont
> des images ont été prises par drone après le cyclone Matthew).
>
> Bien cordialement,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
> PS : Après certains messages "post-factuels", il pourrait être
> nécessaire de rappeler que mes messages à la liste h...@openstreetmap.org
> sont retardés et même souvent carrément bloqués depuis plus d'un an.
> C'est pour cela que je les adresse aussi à la liste Talk, pour que ceci
> soit visible publiquement. Aucune justification n'en a été donnée,
> malgré de nombreuses demandes - ne serait-ce que par un exemple de
> courriel inapproprié.
> Mes derniers courriels bloqués étaient à propos d'images drone après
> Matthew. Au passage, ce sujet a paru assez intéressant à l'AFP pour
> publier cet article d'Amélie Baron, repris un peu partout dans le monde
> :
> http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10/24/haiti-des-drones-pour-mieux-identifier-les-besoins-apres-louragan-matthew
> Ces blocages répétés, contraires aux règles de fonctionnement des listes
> d'OpenStreetMap, et à la simple décence humaine, constituent un abus
> d'un pouvoir confié. Et ce n'est certainement pas pour l'intérêt général.
>
> Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum
>
> --
> "Corruption is the abuse of entrusted power for private gain."
> Transparency International
> https://www.transparency.org/whatwedo/publication/preventing_corruption_in_humanitarian_operations
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging
Hi, On 10/25/2016 05:45 PM, Pine W wrote: > Perhaps there are parts of the world in which official databases are > incomplete, outdated, or nonexistent, This is true for most official databases in so-called "first-world countries". The content of official databases should never be considered superior to an actual survey. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging
I think you misunderstood my purpose. I was not contacting OSM to complain about illegal signs. I was responding to the original poster and urging caution about relying on signs. At least in my jurisdiction, official databases seem to me to be more reliable than signage regarding property rights. Perhaps there are parts of the world in which official databases are incomplete, outdated, or nonexistent, in which case mappers could adapt to local conditions as best as possible. Pine ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: [HOT] Geospatial devroom at FOSDEM 2017
Forwarding. -- Forwarded message -- From: "Margherita Di Leo" Date: Oct 25, 2016 02:01 Subject: [HOT] Geospatial devroom at FOSDEM 2017 To: "hot" Cc: Call for Presentations Please forward! FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event bringing together about 5000 developers in Brussels, Belgium. The goal is to provide open source software developers and communities a place to meet and share thoughts. The participation is free of charge, although donations are welcome. The next edition will take place on 4 - 5 February 2017. For the third (!) time there will be a Geospatial devroom and will be happening on Sunday 5/2/2017! Geospatial technologies and mapping used to be specialist work, but nowadays location and maps are becoming part of many projects/applications, which usually use only a small subset of the possibilities the data and software offer. The geospatial devroom is the place to talk about open, geo-related data and software and their ecosystem. This includes standards and tools, e.g. for spatial databases, and online mapping, geospatial services, used for collecting, storing, delivering, analysing, and visualizing purposes. We welcome submissions about: - Web and desktop GIS applications; - Collaborative editing / versioning of geodata and metadata; - Interoperable geospatial web services and specifications; - Collection of data using sensors / UAVs / satellites; - Geo-analytic algorithms / libraries; - Geospatial extensions for classical databases (indexes, operations) and dedicated databases; - Big geodata, scalable GIS applications; - Volunteered Geographic information - Crowdsourced geodata. HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR PROPOSAL FOR A TALK Are you thrilled to present your work to other open source developers? Would you like to run a discussion? Any other ideas? Please submit your proposal at: https://fosdem.org/submit Make sure to select the 'Geospatial devroom' as 'Track'. If you have an account from previous years, you should be using the same. Please specify in the notes if you prefer for your presentation either a short timeslot (lightning talks ~10 minutes) or a long timeslot (20 minutes presentation + discussion). However, note that time slots are indicative and will be assigned according to the timing of the session. The DEADLINE for submissions is Thursday **1st December 2016**. Notification of acceptance will be sent to the Authors by 11/12/2016 at the latest. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch with the organisers of the devroom at fosdem-geospatial at gisky.be! Want to know what FOSDEM geospatial is like? Check out the videos and the presentations of our previous two editions: [1,2] The organizers Johan Van de Wauw Margherita Di Leo Anne Ghisla Martin Hammitzsch [1] https://archive.fosdem.org/2015/schedule/track/geospatial/ [2] https://archive.fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/geospatial/ -- Margherita Di Leo ___ HOT mailing list h...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Haïti : CNIGS aerial cover / couverture aérienne du CNIGS
(Version en français ci-dessous)
Hi,
An aerial reference cover of the western end of Tiburon Peninsula has
been made available by CNIGS (Centre National de l'Information
Géographique et Spatiale), Haiti national mapping agency. It was taken
in 2014-2015, with a resolution of 25 cm. It is hosted by OpenStreetMap
France. A few tiles and strips are currently missing, due to the
difficulty of connections with Haiti.
If you are to realign data or images, you should use it as reference.
TMS URL for JOSM:
tms[23]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/haiti_cnigs_2014_2015/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
(This same layer was first started with coverage of the areas covered by
drones after hurricane Matthew).
Best wishes,
Jean-Guilhem
PS : After some "post-factual" messages, it could be necessary to recall
that my messages to the h...@openstreetmap.org mailing list have been
delayed and even often completely blocked since more than a year. That
is why I also now address them to the Talk list, so that this be visible
publically. No justification whatsoever was ever given, in spite of many
requests - not even an example of an inappropriate email.
My last blocked emails were about drone images after Matthew. By the
way, that subject was considered interesting enough by AFP to publish
this article by Amélie Baron, that appeared around the World:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/drones-help-identify-post-hurricane-matthew-needs-haiti-190702633.html
These repeated blocks, against OSM lists rules and simple human decency,
constitute abuse of entrusted power. And it is certainly not for general
interest.
Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum
-
Bonjour,
Une couverture aérienne de référence de l'extrémité ouest de la
Péninsule de Tiburon a été rendue disponible par le CNIGS (Centre
National de l'Information Géographique et Spatiale), l'institut
géographique national haïtien. Elle a été prise en 2014-2015, avec une
résolution de 25 cm. Elle est hébergée par OpenStreetMap France.
Quelques dalles et bandes manquent pour le moment, en raison des
difficultés de connexion avec Haïti.
Si vous réalignez des données ou des images, vous devriez l'utiliser
comme référence.
URL TMS pour JOSM:
tms[23]:http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/haiti_cnigs_2014_2015/{zoom}/{x}/{y}
(Cette même couche a commencé par contenir une couverture des zones dont
des images ont été prises par drone après le cyclone Matthew).
Bien cordialement,
Jean-Guilhem
PS : Après certains messages "post-factuels", il pourrait être
nécessaire de rappeler que mes messages à la liste h...@openstreetmap.org
sont retardés et même souvent carrément bloqués depuis plus d'un an.
C'est pour cela que je les adresse aussi à la liste Talk, pour que ceci
soit visible publiquement. Aucune justification n'en a été donnée,
malgré de nombreuses demandes - ne serait-ce que par un exemple de
courriel inapproprié.
Mes derniers courriels bloqués étaient à propos d'images drone après
Matthew. Au passage, ce sujet a paru assez intéressant à l'AFP pour
publier cet article d'Amélie Baron, repris un peu partout dans le monde
:
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10/24/haiti-des-drones-pour-mieux-identifier-les-besoins-apres-louragan-matthew
Ces blocages répétés, contraires aux règles de fonctionnement des listes
d'OpenStreetMap, et à la simple décence humaine, constituent un abus
d'un pouvoir confié. Et ce n'est certainement pas pour l'intérêt général.
Errare humanum est, perseverare diabolicum
--
"Corruption is the abuse of entrusted power for private gain."
Transparency International
https://www.transparency.org/whatwedo/publication/preventing_corruption_in_humanitarian_operations
___
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Hunting area tagging
2016-10-25 1:31 GMT+02:00 Pine W : > Just a comment that I'd be wary of "No hunting", "Hunting allowed", or > "Private property", or other signs on the ground that can actually be > placed by anyone, whether or not they are legal. > this can be (according to the local situation/context) a problem or not with any kind of sign, in no way related to hunting. Putting up a sign "private property" where indeed it is public property, is most likely illegal in any place. If you come across such illegal signage, contact your local authorities, don't complain on the OSM mailing list ;-) > A problem that I've encountered more than once is a private property owner > putting out what appeared to me to be an illegal sign, like putting a > home-made speed limit sign on the small street that goes by their house. > if it's their driveway, they can probably put any sign and it won't be "illegal" (if it's enforcable is another question) (depends on the jurisdiction and context (accessible by everyone or only after passing a gate etc., public right of way on a privately owned road, etc.)). > A similar problem that I've heard about is business owners putting out "No > parking", "Customer parking only", "Private beach", and similar signs which > were made to look official but actually were not approved by any government > agency. > again, see above, contact your local authorities and have the sign removed if it is illegal. > So signage that you see in public is not always trustworthy, and I would > be cautious about relying on it. Relying on official databases seems to me > to be preferable to relying on signage. > I would rely more on local signage, because this is what you can be expected to know and see, while some "official database" if it has all the valid prescriptions in it, but doesn't find an echo in the actual situation on the ground, will be hardly enforcable. In case you find discrepancies you should/could contact local authorities and have the situation cleared. Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
