[OSM-talk-fr] bus : lignes de transport en commun Haute-Garonne : réseau

[lenny]

Bonsoir,

Je me suis penché sur les lignes de transport en commun de Toulouse et 
de la Haute-Garonne, et j'ai quelques questions et demandes d'avis ; 
mais je ne pose qu'un sujet dans chaque discutions pour ne pas me 
disperser, question "network"'


1 - Toulouse [1],

2 - le Département de la Haute-Garonne [2]

3 - les transports scolaires du Département de la Haute-Garonne [3]

En ce qui concerne le réseau,

1 - le wiki indique "network=fr_tisseo" (dans taginfo 540 avec 
"fr_tisseo" et 3 avec "Tisséo") ; La plupart des contributeurs ont été 
conformes au wiki.


2- Le réseau de bus de la Haute-Garonne, s'appelle "Réseau des cars 
Arc-en-Ciel" (dans taginfo 42 "fr_arc_en_ciel" ; 5 "Arc-en-Ciel" ; 1 
"Arc-en-ciel" ; 2 "Bus Arc en Ciel" ; 1 "réseau arc en ciel") ; (pour 
garder une cohérence avec le réseau sur Toulouse, je pense qu'il faut 
conserver le "fr_arc_en_ciel" bien que le "fr_" n'apporte pas l'unicité, 
il y a un réseau du même nom dans le Nord.


3- "network=transports_scolairesHG" ou "network=transports_scolaires31" 
? je n'ai pas su trouver d'autres réseaux de transport scolaire dans OSM ...


merci d'avance

Leni


[1] https://www.tisseo.fr/
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toulouse/Transports_en_commun

[2] 
https://www.haute-garonne.fr/proximite/au-quotidien/reseau-des-cars-arc-en-ciel

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Haute-Garonne/Transports_en_commun

[3] https://www.transportsscolaires.haute-garonne.fr/

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Re: [Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

[Pavel Machek]

Ahoj!

> A co tam dát bicycle=no ?

A pridal bych i horse=no a wheelchair=no.

Pavel

PS: A teda ani jedno z toho neni "spravne" protoze legalne tam nejspis
kone, kola i kocarky smi... Ale vzhledem k tomu ze tam fakt neprojedou...
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
(cesky, pictures) 
http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html


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[OSM-talk-fr] montée des mers

[osm . sanspourriel]

Pause : pas directement lié à OSM (sauf le fond de carte).

https://searise.correctiv.org/de/explore/stations/1

Ici en étranger mais le graphique est parlant.

500 stations au niveau du monde.

Jean-Yvon

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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Neil Matthews]

On 31/07/2017 21:18, Dave F wrote:
> Hi
>>
>> Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits
>> are in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/
>>
> Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this
> has been written by someone who's understanding of a museum is of a
> single building in a large metropolis. Tags which refer to the whole
> museum (addresses etc) should be tagged onto the extreme polygon.

No tagging the entrance with the address is likely to give more precise
routing.

>> Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.
>>
>
> What if there are multiple buildings?

Pick the one with the main entrance -- reception /  tourist information
/ ticket booth -- whatever you survey on the ground.
>> Add a relevant landuse -- if required.
> What would you suggest?

Depends on the grounds -- pedestrian, recreation ground, garden, car
park, coach park, etc.

Cheers,
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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Dave F]

Hi


Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are 
in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/


Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this 
has been written by someone who's understanding of a museum is of a 
single building in a large metropolis. Tags which refer to the whole 
museum (addresses etc) should be tagged onto the extreme polygon.



Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.



What if there are multiple buildings?


Add a relevant landuse -- if required.




What would you suggest?

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semanárioOSM Nº 366 2017-07-18-2017-07-24

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Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Geocoding Guideline

[Michael Steffen]

Hi all -

A few thoughts on the comments. Speaking entirely on my own behalf here, I
have not gotten feedback on this yet from the rest of the LWG.

[from Christoph]

But if you aggregate such results they can become subject to the ODbL. . .
> The difference is that indirect results are significantly *less
> substantial* than direct results because by interpolating you lose a lot of
> substance.  Spelling this out makes sense to me but the formulation cited
> above seems to be misleading and confusing.


[from Martin]

Rather than "contain no osm data" this could be seen as "contain only
> transformations of osm data, no raw osm data".


I think I see the confusion here now. What if we tweaked this language to
something like the following?

*CURRENT DRAFT: Individual Geocoding Results are insubstantial database
extracts if they are based on a Direct Hit. Individual Geocoding Results
that are based on an Indirect Hit contain no OSM data and so are free of
any obligations under the ODbL.*

*PROPOSED REVISION: Individual Geocoding Results are insubstantial database
extracts: Individual Geocoding Results that are based on a Direct Hit
contain an insubstantial amount of raw OSM data; Individual Geocoding
Results that are based on an Indirect Hit contain no raw OSM data at all
and only transformations of or inferences from OSM data.*

[from Martin]

E.g. my algorithm could take a list of all streets, query all house numbers
> from 1 to x (until it doesn't find any more hits for a sequence of
> numbers), but not the numbers 3 and 4 . . .


The hypothetical sounds like a systematic attempt to extract "substantially
all" addresses. It also does sound to me like the intent would likely be to
create a general purpose geodatabase from OSM (for example use of the
results again as a geocoder). So share-alike would apply: “A collection of
Geocoding Results will be considered a systematic attempt to aggregate data
if it is used as a general purpose geodatabase, regardless of how the
original aggregation was accomplished.”

Without attributing to osm


The attribution piece of this is indeed somewhat tricky. We wrote a fairly
detailed explanation of our reasoning in the FAQ section of the wiki. To be
clear: anyone running a geocoder based on OSM would need to attribute OSM.

Yes, individual geocoding results are not substantial, but geocoding is
> typically executed many times (i.e. systematically), and it is the sum of
> the geocoding results that makes the extract substantial.


Yes agreed - a collection of Geocoding Results can have enough data to be a
Substantial Extract of an OSM Database and a Derivative Database. This
applies to both Direct and Indirect Hits.

Hopefully the proposed new wording above would help clarify this.

Thanks again for the feedback.

-Michael


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hebdoOSM Nº 366 2017-07-18-2017-07-24

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Bonjour,

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] rendu OSMFR et nom de pays

[Adrien Grellier]

Bonjour,

En février j'avais pointé un problème dans le rendu OSM-FR, sur les noms
de pays.

Aujourd'hui je constate que ça n'a pas changé, mais que les mises à jour
des tuiles ne se font pas à partir d'un certain niveau, comme par ex. ici :

http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=13=47.33279=-1.50283=B00FF

En zoomant d'un cran, certaines zones ajoutées il y a un moment
apparaissent.


Est-ce un problème de serveur surchargé ? Un bug inextricable ? Ou
simplement la faute à « pas le temps » ?

J'aime bien ce rendu, que j'utilise dans un cadre associatif, donc s'il
y a quelque chose que je peux faire pour améliorer la situation…

Bonne soirée

Adrien


On 13/02/2017 13:34, Adrien Grellier wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> Le rendu OSM-FR n'affiche plus les noms de pays, à des niveaux de zoom
> haut. Par exemple si je regarde l'Afrique, les noms de pays ne
> s'affichent pas :
> http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=4=6.43542=18.91818=B000FF
>
> Pourtant c'est une information qui peut être intéressante. Il me semble
> que sur le rendu précédent les noms de pays s'affichait bien.
>
> Si on zoome d'un cran, les capitales apparaissent, mais toujours pas les
> noms de pays :
> http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=5=-3.7875=26.71848=B000FF
>
> Pensez-vous qu'il soit possible de faire afficher les noms de pays ?
>
> Perso ça me semble plus parlant que les capitales : je peux placer
> approximativement la Tanzanie ou le Sud-Soudan sur la carte, par contre
> Dodoma ou Djouba me sont complètement inconnu.
>
> Bonne journée
>
> Adrien
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Neil Matthews]

Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are
in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/

Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.

Add a relevant landuse -- if required.

Neil

On 31/07/2017 17:23, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Could I have your opinions please.
>
> Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
> separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
> outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075
>
> In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon
> after I added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style
> to schools and hospitals.
>
> All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area
> into a car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was
> totally right in the first place.
>
> So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
> house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?
>
> Regards,
>  Jez
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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Dave F]

Hi

I would revert the boundary to tourism=museum & tag the building as 
building=museum. I would transfer the data which represents the whole 
area to the boundary, such as address & contact details, similar to 
schools and hospitals. Wheelchair tags should be on individual entities 
as access can vary widely.


I suspect this is a case of tagging incorrectly for the renderer as 
tourism=museum on the standard map doesn't have a fill colour. This is 
an omission that those in charge of the carto design are reluctant to 
amend (see pubs, hotels etc) I maintain their "lack of distinguishable 
colours" argument is weak.


An aside point: I wouldn't connect boundaries to centrelines of roads. 
If you were to add a gate to represent an entrance to the museum, it 
would also be a barrier on the Preston Drove, which, obviously, it 
isn't. It can also make it difficult to select in some editors.


DaveF



On 31/07/2017 17:23, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Hi all,

Could I have your opinions please.

Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner, 
separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do 
outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075

In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon 
after I added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style 
to schools and hospitals.


All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area 
into a car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was 
totally right in the first place.


So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both 
house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?


Regards,
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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Edward Catmur]

How about tourism=museum (+ possibly building=no) on the grounds? The
building itself could be tagged building=museum, without the tourism tag.

It's not a hugely used combination but Overpass throws up one in Bedford, a
few in the North Pennines, a couple in Germany.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Jez Nicholson 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Could I have your opinions please.
>
> Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
> separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
> outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075
>
> In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon after I
> added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style to schools
> and hospitals.
>
> All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area into a
> car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was totally right in
> the first place.
>
> So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
> house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?
>
> Regards,
>  Jez
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[Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Jez Nicholson]

Hi all,

Could I have your opinions please.

Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075

In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon after I
added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style to schools
and hospitals.

All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area into a
car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was totally right in
the first place.

So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] meerdere postcodes voor één gemeente

[Glenn Plas]

The advice below isn't correct.  We don't need alternatives, we need to
improve the postal_code boundaries to encompass those houses that are on
the wrong side of the postal code.

> That being said, using addr:postcode on boundary relations is rather uncommon 
> practice.  Having another relation for Bellem with role=subarea and using 
> addr:postcode on its administrative centre could be considered as an 
> alternative.

Postal code's on administrative boundaries will throw a JOSM warning
when validating. I in fact delete those, they add no value to geocoding
at all, and will not be looked at.

However, in Flanders, we have almost a complete coverage in terms of
postal code boundaries.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpostal_code

There is still a lot of work in the rest of the country to complete
those, but they are perfect for handling border cases.   The AGIV/CRAB
tool also takes those into account, so if you mess up the postal code,
even though everything else is fine, you will see a 'error/wrong' on the
completion results. ( see http://aptum.bitless.be/ )

To see how complete this is, you can use overpass:

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/qIO

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mystery structure on a South China Sea reef

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

Yes, a good point. I wanted to say, that it is technically doable.

Certainly, for organizing such an expedition it is necessary to take 
into account meteorology, legal aspects, flight planning, etc.


Best regards,
O.

On 31.07.17 15:40, James wrote:

In before osm community causes international dispute

On Jul 31, 2017 8:37 AM, "Oleksiy Muzalyev" 
> wrote:


Hi Andy,

Actually it is doable. The TAM-5, 11-pound RC plane, flew 1,888
miles from Canada to Ireland over the Atlantic ocean in 38 hours
still in 2003 [1].

The distance from Puerto Princesa City, Philippines, to this reef
is only 265 miles. And the technology is much better now. A RC
plane of this small size is invisible to radars.

It would be about ten hours flight. Nowadays electric RC gliders
can stay in the air times longer [2]. Certainly, such a flight is
possible only with a good weather forecast for the whole route.

[1]
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/model-plane-flies-atlantic

[2] https://youtu.be/8m4_NpTQn0E

Best regards.
Oleksiy

On 31.07.17 14:25, Andy Mabbett wrote:

...
What is this place on Google Maps?
https://goo.gl/maps/qF8YXxr86zo 
  ...
Anyone fancy doing a survey? ;-)

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Re: [Talk-cz] Note spam v Praze?

[Matěj Cepl]

On 2017-07-24, 08:36 GMT, Matej Lieskovský wrote:
> Já souhlasím s tím, že je to legitimní dotaz, ale přijde mi, 
> že by se to nemělo řešit strojovým generováním note. Kdyby 
> note generoval například OSM Inspector, tak mi při otevření 
> note vrstvy spadne počítač.

Já bych navrhl jakou policy takovéhle hromadné dotazy okamžitě 
zavírat bez dalšího (případně s nějakým dotazem na to, jak 
opravdu mapovat), protože už současné zaneřádění Prahy 
nevyřízenými Notes mě znechucuje jakékoli pokusy se tím hnojem 
zabývat. Tenhle plevel nemá nulové náklady pro lidi, kteří se 
snaží s mapou něco opravdového dělat.

A pak, pokud se na takovéto policy domluvíme, bych ji okamžitě 
aplikoval. ;)

Hezké pondělí,

Matěj
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Re: [Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

[Marián Kyral]

A co tam dát bicycle=no ?

Marian

31. července 2017 10:46:19 SELČ, Miroslav Suchy  napsal:
>Dne 31.7.2017 v 09:58 Mikoláš Štrajt napsal(a):
>> Zdar,
>> četl jsem dnes ráno článek o ferátách
>(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zajištěná_cesta) a vzpoměl jsem si na
>jednu 
>> podobnou věc - úsek turistické cesty, který vede po tak strmé skále
>že je tam pro jistotu řetěz. Tuhle věc jsem třeba 
>> viděl u Kocáby pod Masečínem (tj. přibližně tady -
>http://maps.svita.cz/pkggq).
>> 
>> Není to klasická (obtížná) feráta, protože k průchodu tohoto úseku
>cesty nepotřebujete horolezecké vybavení. Přijde mi 
>> spíš že je to taková zkratka - těm, co to značili, se asi nechtělo
>tento krátký úsek cesty vysekávat do skály, tak tam 
>> dali řetěz.
>> 
>> Přesto je to celkem překážka a mám pocit že jsem tam jednou potkal
>dost naštvaný cyklisty. Na tomto konkrétním místě je 
>> to navíc vylepšeno o to, že se tomuto místu dá vyhnout po druhém
>břehu, takže by bylo fajn to zanést do mapy.
>> 
>> Potkali jste někde něco podobného? Pokud ano, jak jste to zanesli do
>mapy?
>
>Já jsem to potkal zde:
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344758355#map=19/49.79820/17.42247
>Na konci NS je slézání 2m skály. Bez lana, ale pro kočárek to byla dost
>challenge :)
>
>Dal jsem vyšší sac_scale. Asi by bylo vhodné doplnit i mtb:scale.
>
>Mirek
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Re: [Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

[Miroslav Suchy]

Dne 31.7.2017 v 09:58 Mikoláš Štrajt napsal(a):

Zdar,
četl jsem dnes ráno článek o ferátách (https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zajištěná_cesta) a vzpoměl jsem si na jednu 
podobnou věc - úsek turistické cesty, který vede po tak strmé skále že je tam pro jistotu řetěz. Tuhle věc jsem třeba 
viděl u Kocáby pod Masečínem (tj. přibližně tady - http://maps.svita.cz/pkggq).


Není to klasická (obtížná) feráta, protože k průchodu tohoto úseku cesty nepotřebujete horolezecké vybavení. Přijde mi 
spíš že je to taková zkratka - těm, co to značili, se asi nechtělo tento krátký úsek cesty vysekávat do skály, tak tam 
dali řetěz.


Přesto je to celkem překážka a mám pocit že jsem tam jednou potkal dost naštvaný cyklisty. Na tomto konkrétním místě je 
to navíc vylepšeno o to, že se tomuto místu dá vyhnout po druhém břehu, takže by bylo fajn to zanést do mapy.


Potkali jste někde něco podobného? Pokud ano, jak jste to zanesli do mapy?


Já jsem to potkal zde:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/344758355#map=19/49.79820/17.42247
Na konci NS je slézání 2m skály. Bez lana, ale pro kočárek to byla dost 
challenge :)

Dal jsem vyšší sac_scale. Asi by bylo vhodné doplnit i mtb:scale.

Mirek

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] meerdere postcodes voor één gemeente

[Santens Seppe]

Thanks, I won't touch it then :-)

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Yves bxl-forever [mailto:bxl-fore...@linuxmail.org] 
Verzonden: maandag 31 juli 2017 10:35
Aan: talk-be@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-be] meerdere postcodes voor één gemeente

Hi,

Yes, it is a fact that in Belgium, there can be several postcodes for one same 
commune/gemeente.
Moreover, one same postcode can span over several communes/gemeenten too.
Therefore, and contrary to popular belief, we should never expect a one-to-one 
correspondence between addr:postcode and addr:city.  Osmose’s complain looks 
here like a false positive because it makes sense to have multiple values.

A spectacular example is the City of Brussels with 8 postcodes: 1000, 1020, 
1120 and 1130 on its own, and 1030, 1040, 1050 and 1070, which it shares with 
other communes (respectively Schaarbeek, Etterbeek, Ixelles/Elsene and 
Anderlecht).


That being said, using addr:postcode on boundary relations is rather uncommon 
practice.  Having another relation for Bellem with role=subarea and using 
addr:postcode on its administrative centre could be considered as an 
alternative.


Have a great day.
Yves



On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:33:49 +
Santens Seppe  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Osmose complains that my hometown has two postal codes: 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/721879
> In fact, 9880 is the "general" postal code for Aalter, but there is also 
> 9881, which is used for Bellem, a town that is part of Aalter (deelgemeente).
> 
> Should the relation for Aalter (admin_level=8) only contain the 9880 postal 
> code? Or is this a false positive from Osmose?
> 
> Seppe

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] meerdere postcodes voor één gemeente

[Yves bxl-forever]

Hi,

Yes, it is a fact that in Belgium, there can be several postcodes for one same 
commune/gemeente.
Moreover, one same postcode can span over several communes/gemeenten too.
Therefore, and contrary to popular belief, we should never expect a one-to-one 
correspondence between addr:postcode and addr:city.  Osmose’s complain looks 
here like a false positive because it makes sense to have multiple values.

A spectacular example is the City of Brussels with 8 postcodes: 1000, 1020, 
1120 and 1130 on its own, and 1030, 1040, 1050 and 1070, which it shares with 
other communes (respectively Schaarbeek, Etterbeek, Ixelles/Elsene and 
Anderlecht).


That being said, using addr:postcode on boundary relations is rather uncommon 
practice.  Having another relation for Bellem with role=subarea and using 
addr:postcode on its administrative centre could be considered as an 
alternative.


Have a great day.
Yves



On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 22:33:49 +
Santens Seppe  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Osmose complains that my hometown has two postal codes: 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/721879
> In fact, 9880 is the "general" postal code for Aalter, but there is also 
> 9881, which is used for Bellem, a town that is part of Aalter (deelgemeente).
> 
> Should the relation for Aalter (admin_level=8) only contain the 9880 postal 
> code? Or is this a false positive from Osmose?
> 
> Seppe

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Re: [Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

[Dalibor Jelínek]

Ahoj,

existují nějaké navrhované značky, ale nejsou moc rozšířené:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Tag:highway%3Dvia_ferrata

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/via_ferrata

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Safety_measures_on_hiking_trails

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:safety_rope

 

Dalibor

 

From: Mikoláš Štrajt [mailto:stra...@seznam.cz] 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 9:58 AM
To: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

 

Zdar,

četl jsem dnes ráno článek o ferátách 
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zajištěná_cesta) a vzpoměl jsem si na jednu 
podobnou věc - úsek turistické cesty, který vede po tak strmé skále že je tam 
pro jistotu řetěz. Tuhle věc jsem třeba viděl u Kocáby pod Masečínem (tj. 
přibližně tady - http://maps.svita.cz/pkggq).

 

Není to klasická (obtížná) feráta, protože k průchodu tohoto úseku cesty 
nepotřebujete horolezecké vybavení. Přijde mi spíš že je to taková zkratka - 
těm, co to značili, se asi nechtělo tento krátký úsek cesty vysekávat do skály, 
tak tam dali řetěz.

 

Přesto je to celkem překážka a mám pocit že jsem tam jednou potkal dost 
naštvaný cyklisty. Na tomto konkrétním místě je to navíc vylepšeno o to, že se 
tomuto místu dá vyhnout po druhém břehu, takže by bylo fajn to zanést do mapy.

 

Potkali jste někde něco podobného? Pokud ano, jak jste to zanesli do mapy?

 

Zdraví

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[Talk-cz] feráta vs řetěz

[Mikoláš Štrajt]

Zdar,


četl jsem dnes ráno článek o ferátách (https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Zajištěná_cesta) a vzpoměl jsem si na jednu podobnou věc - úsek turistické
cesty, který vede po tak strmé skále že je tam pro jistotu řetěz. Tuhle věc
jsem třeba viděl u Kocáby pod Masečínem (tj. přibližně tady - http://maps.
svita.cz/pkggq).




Není to klasická (obtížná) feráta, protože k průchodu tohoto úseku cesty
nepotřebujete horolezecké vybavení. Přijde mi spíš že je to taková zkratka -
těm, co to značili, se asi nechtělo tento krátký úsek cesty vysekávat do
skály, tak tam dali řetěz.




Přesto je to celkem překážka a mám pocit že jsem tam jednou potkal dost
naštvaný cyklisty. Na tomto konkrétním místě je to navíc vylepšeno o to, že
se tomuto místu dá vyhnout po druhém břehu, takže by bylo fajn to zanést do
mapy.




Potkali jste někde něco podobného? Pokud ano, jak jste to zanesli do mapy?




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Re: [talk-au] OSM QGIS 'workshop' in Perth this weekend

[Sam Wilson]

Not much to show for it yet I'm afraid!

We ran into a bug with creating virtual layers from layers that have
attributes with colons in their names (e.g. toilets:disposal), and also
couldn't figure out getting relations' data in (the built-in QGIS way of
doing it creates strange layers with an 'extra_params' column that can't
easily be used in rules etc.).

We're putting together what we know here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/QGIS_tutorial

It'll be a few months till we're up to the print composer stuff I think
(we only meet fortnightly).

The idea is to have a set of instructions that any newbie can use to get
up and running with data in QGIS, so they can get on with the fun stuff
of making a pretty map. :-)

—Sam.



On Sat, 29 Jul 2017, at 08:06 PM, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Any chance of some notes from this get together? Especially printing from
> composer and getting decent results!
> 
> Cheers - Phil (Tasmania)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Wilson [mailto:s...@samwilson.id.au] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 2:07 PM
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [talk-au] OSM QGIS 'workshop' in Perth this weekend
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> Geogeeks http://geogeeks.org/ was going to run a workshop this weekend
> about how to use OSM data in QGIS, but it's also Govhack so there are
> lots of people otherwise engaged.
> 
> However, we do still have a venue, so there's going to be a small
> gathering at the state library in Perth to talk about QGIS and OSM and
> what a workshop might look like. :-)
> 
> So come along, bring your laptop, and we can all learn together!
> 
> 1 to 3 pm, State Library of Western Australia, 1st floor, BiblioTECH
> room.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sam.
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meetings?

[Andy Robinson]

Sounds like a plan

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 July 2017 17:52
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meetings?

 

Hi Andy

My reference would be for Northfield/Longbridge. We coud meet in the Black 
Horse Northfield



Regards

Brian

 

On 28 July 2017 at 15:18, Andy Robinson  wrote:

Thanks Brian,

 

Agreed, let’s leave Kinver till next year.

 

Any preference for Penkridge or Longbridge next week?

 

Cheers

Andy

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 July 2017 13:32
To: Andy Robinson
Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Next meetings?

 

Hi Andy

The two remaning locations on our list are Penkridge and Longbridge/Northfield. 
Happy to amend to your suggestion, but to do that area justice it would need a 
Saturday.

Regards

Brian

 

On 27 July 2017 at 11:59, Andy Robinson  wrote:

Did we have a list of proposed locations for remaining meetings this summer?

I noted a couple of new user edits in the Kinver area which prompted me to
have a closer look. Kinver and nearby Stourton, Cookley and Enville are all
pretty much devoid of any detail currently and would make a good focus for
an evening or Saturday. Also the Birmingham Velo (100mile closed road
cycling event with 15,000 riders) passes through all three on Sept 24th.
Might be nice to get some detail on the map before then?

Cheers
Andy


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[Talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 366

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 366 týdeníku WeeklyOSM:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/9299

* Slovní hříčky ve WeeklyOSM.
* Testy české OpenFlightMaps.
* Pád skály u Strečna a OSM.
* Hebrejština pro kontrolu OSM?
* Svatý nebo sv. ve jménech.
* Jak mapovat autobusy.
* Hlasování Ceny OSM.
* Pop art mapovací styl.
* OSM podtácky.

Pěkné počtení ...

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