Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO : rapprochements sans code FANTOIR

[deuzeffe]

Le 28/09/2022 à 18:32, leni a écrit :


Je suis revenu en arrière et je retrouve dans l'onglet 0

Voie sans FANTOIR
 CHE GENBOY chemin de genboy


et dans l'onglet 2

320870110M 2021-04-26 CHEM DE JENBOY



Ma mémoire est une traîtresse. Et CHE et CHEM sont bien dans les dico.

C'est probablement l'orthographe divergente qui empêche le rapprochement.

Tu peux refaire un pas en avant, merci ;)
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deuzeffe, confuse.



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose : erreur dans certains pointeurs

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Correspond peut-être à cette issue de corruption progressive de la base 
de données.


https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-frontend/issues/401


Le 26/09/2022 à 22:55, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :

Salut, ça c'est quand le JSON généré est vide, typiquement quand
l'erreur a disparu.

Erreur classique de JSON parse sans vérification si le retour est vide
avant d'analyser.

Jean-Yvon

Le 26/09/2022 à 10:12, FR via Talk-fr - talk-fr@openstreetmap.org a 
écrit :

Bonjour

Depuis quelque jours il y ce message dans certains pointeurs d'Osmose,
pas tous :
"JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data"

Françoise


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] BANO : rapprochements sans code FANTOIR

[leni]

Le 27/09/2022 à 13:30, leni a écrit :


Le 27/09/2022 à 12:36, deuzeffe a écrit :

Le 26/09/2022 à 19:46, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
Si tu combines l'orthographe de la BAN (avec un G plutôt qu'un J) et 
un ref:FR:FANTOIR, ça devrait tout réconcilier, le contenu OSM 
faisant le lien aussi bien avec FANTOIR qu'avec la BAN. Je dis ça 
mais je n'ai pas essayé, je te laisse la primeur :) Tu peux aussi 
qualifier la voie avec une erreur ou divergence d'orthographe, mais 
ça n'influence pas le rapprochement.


Je n'avais pas vu la divergence d'orthographe (honte sur moi) mais de 
(piètre) mémoire, il semble me rappeler que le pseudo-libellé FANTOIR 
était de la forme "CH" (et non CHE ou CHEM) qui n'existe pas dans ton 
dico. ni dans le référentiel FANTOIR. Aucune idée si ça a pu influer, 
surtout que comme Leni a bien fait les choses, c'est devenu 
transparent (donc invisible).


Je ne me souviens plus et je n'ai pas non plus fait de copie-écran, 
mais je peux très facilement revenir en arrière (pas grand-chose à 
faire) ...


Je suis revenu en arrière et je retrouve dans l'onglet 0

Voie sans FANTOIR   
	CHE GENBOY 	chemin de genboy 	ORG 
 	FR 
 
BANO 
 
	JOSM 	ID 
 
	P2 
 
	

2 PointsRelation


et dans l'onglet 2

320870110M  2021-04-26  CHEM DE JENBOY

Je ne me souviens si avant, comme il semblait à deuzeffe, il y avait 
"CH" dans le pseudo-libellé FANTOIR , mais je me souviens avoir remarqué 
avant qu'il n'avait pas le "DE" donc je pense que Pifomètre est bien 
revenu dans l'état avant ma modif


Si vous n'y voyez pas d'inconvénients, je refais le rapprochement : il 
n'y aura plus qu'une ligne


320870110M  2021-04-26  CHEM DE JENBOY  Chemin de GenboyORG
FR
BANO
JOSM
ID
P2



Anomalies

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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Andrew Harvey]

Yep you'll reach Victorian and Australian mappers better on talk-au as some
might not join the global talk list ->
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au.

I'll echo other's comments here, if you are planning or have done the
conflation I'd suggest sharing those results so the community can review
and share feedback.

On Wed, 28 Sept 2022 at 19:16, Phil Wyatt  wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Given you are in Australia I would try the talk AU list as well. Maybe
> also the discord channels as there are a few Ozzie folks there in the
> Oceania channel with lots of transport experience.
>
> Cheers - Phil
> (On the phone so apologies for any typos)
>
> On 28 Sep 2022, at 6:36 pm, rob potter  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I have read the guidelines.
>
> I'm in Victoria, Australia
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I work for the state transport department
>>>
>>
>> Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country?
>> Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and
>> provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become
>>> an active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on
>>> is our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>>>
>>> I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>>>
>>> There are a number of considerations:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
>>>   - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>>>   - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
>>>   - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality
>>>
>>> My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
>>> stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.
>>>
>>> I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise
>>> of a viable way of making such a significant
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Phil Wyatt]

Hi Rob,Given you are in Australia I would try the talk AU list as well. Maybe also the discord channels as there are a few Ozzie folks there in the Oceania channel with lots of transport experience. Cheers - Phil(On the phone so apologies for any typos)On 28 Sep 2022, at 6:36 pm, rob potter  wrote:Thanks for your reply.I have read the guidelines.I'm in Victoria, AustraliaRobOn Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,  wrote:Hi,I work for the state transport departmentSorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country? Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.Thanks,Eugene On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:Hi,I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.There are a number of considerations:Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stopour GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stopsthe current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.stops.txt location appears to be of a much better qualityMy initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of a viable way of making such a significant Regards,Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[rob potter]

Thanks for your reply.

I have read the guidelines.

I'm in Victoria, Australia

Rob

On Wed, 28 Sept 2022, 18:07 Eugene Alvin Villar,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I work for the state transport department
>>
>
> Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country?
> Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and
> provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.
>
> Thanks,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an
>> active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is
>> our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>>
>> I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>>
>> There are a number of considerations:
>>
>>
>>- Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
>>   - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>>   - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
>>   - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality
>>
>> My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
>> stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.
>>
>> I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of
>> a viable way of making such a significant
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi,

I work for the state transport department
>

Sorry if I missed this somewhere, but which state and which country?
Depending on the answer, there might be a local community that can help and
provide guidance as well with the conflation/import process.

Thanks,
Eugene


On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:24 PM rob potter  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an
> active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is
> our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.
>
> I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.
>
> There are a number of considerations:
>
>
>- Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
>   - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
>   - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
>   - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality
>
> My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
> stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.
>
> I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of
> a viable way of making such a significant
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Marc_marc]

Hello,

Le 28.09.22 à 09:18, rob potter a écrit :
My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what 
stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.


no :) keep the historic, no need to delete-create again.

a better workflow :
extract current
match data location
enrich what stops.txt has
read import guidelinee and follow it :)
modify existing stop and create missing one
delete a stop only if it doesn't exist anymore, not to change
the location nor a tag
also take care that some operator (may be you, I don't known)
have 1 stop where osm have 2 stop, one at eatch side of the road

Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Welcome to osm! Regarding the "remove existing as final step": we generally
expect people to conflate new data with existing data, so you should not
remove the existing ones, but enrich them (including position acuracy if
possible) with your data, and only create new objects for things that
weren't mapped before.

If you haven't yet, read the guidance for automated edits
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits and follow the import
guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

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[OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

[rob potter]

Hi,

I work for the state transport department and we are looking to become an
active member of the community and as a first dataset we have focused on is
our public transport stops, bus and tram initially and then stations.

I would like your advice on how to achieve the outcome.

There are a number of considerations:


   - Currently in the state there are ~9,100 highway:bus_stop
  - our GTFS - stops.txt has ~27,000 stops
  - the current accuracy of highway:bus_stop needs review.
  - stops.txt location appears to be of a much better quality

My initial thought was extract current, match data location, enrich what
stops.txt has then create all new and remove existing as final step.

I would guess there are people screaming NO!! if so, please advise of a
viable way of making such a significant

Regards,

Rob
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