Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

[Alexander Zatko]

freemap.sk  allows photo uploads, tagging, filtered search 
and more.

> On 31 May 2023, at 00:03, Niels Elgaard Larsen  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 30 May 2023 20:36:54 +
> Andrew Hain  wrote:
> 
>> Is there an imagery host that offers an OSM-friendly way to support
>> mapping and is suitable for contributions using a smartphone or tablet?
> 
> I often use Wikimedia Commons.
> There is an app that can both upload photos already taken and start a
> photo-app from the commons app.
> 
> https://f-droid.org/en/packages/fr.free.nrw.commons/
> 
> You have to categorize images, but I do not mind that.
> 
> There are some limits to what you should upload to commons, e.g., many
> nearly identical images.
> 
> If the photo has location metadata then from the commons website you
> can open it on the OpenStreetmap website so that you can e.g., create a
> POI in josm or id. That part is not the most elegant, but it works.
> 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons
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Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 20:36:54 +
Andrew Hain  wrote:

>Is there an imagery host that offers an OSM-friendly way to support
>mapping and is suitable for contributions using a smartphone or tablet?

I often use Wikimedia Commons.
There is an app that can both upload photos already taken and start a
photo-app from the commons app.

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/fr.free.nrw.commons/

You have to categorize images, but I do not mind that.

There are some limits to what you should upload to commons, e.g., many
nearly identical images.

If the photo has location metadata then from the commons website you
can open it on the OpenStreetmap website so that you can e.g., create a
POI in josm or id. That part is not the most elegant, but it works.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Commons

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Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

[James]

Mapillary(facebook)

KartaView(was OpenStreetCam aquired by a taxi company)

On Tue, May 30, 2023, 4:43 PM Andrew Hain 
wrote:

> Is there an imagery host that offers an OSM-friendly way to support
> mapping and is suitable for contributions using a smartphone or tablet?
>
> --
> Andrew
> --
> *From:* Greg Troxel 
> *Sent:* 24 May 2023 13:31
> *To:* talk@openstreetmap.org 
> *Subject:* [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)
>
> I just got spam from mapilio, implying that I was a "Mapilio
> contributor".  This was, to my memory, the first I had heard of them.
>
>
> I have avoided most street-level imagery schemes as not being
> structurally similar to OSM (open source tooling, community project and
> licensing scheme).
>
> Looking briefly, it seems like a corporate thing with proprietary
> tooling.  They talk about an app in proprietary app stores but do not
> mention F-Droid :-) The point seems to be to monetize crowdsourced
> contributions, in a gamified/rewards-ish sort of way.
>
> I don't find a JOSM plugin that makes the imagery available in the way
> that their web page implies it is licensed for OSM.
>
> Thus, my approach will be to not deal with them at all and just block
> their mail.
>
>
> I am curious if anyone
>   - thinks my assessment of the fundamentals is off
>   - thinks there is a reasonable way to use their imagery in JOSM
>   - anything else similar
>
>   - has also been spammed (private replies please and I'll post a
> followup if I get a bunch of comments)
>
> Greg
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Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

[Andrew Hain]

Is there an imagery host that offers an OSM-friendly way to support mapping and 
is suitable for contributions using a smartphone or tablet?

--
Andrew

From: Greg Troxel 
Sent: 24 May 2023 13:31
To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

I just got spam from mapilio, implying that I was a "Mapilio
contributor".  This was, to my memory, the first I had heard of them.


I have avoided most street-level imagery schemes as not being
structurally similar to OSM (open source tooling, community project and
licensing scheme).

Looking briefly, it seems like a corporate thing with proprietary
tooling.  They talk about an app in proprietary app stores but do not
mention F-Droid :-) The point seems to be to monetize crowdsourced
contributions, in a gamified/rewards-ish sort of way.

I don't find a JOSM plugin that makes the imagery available in the way
that their web page implies it is licensed for OSM.

Thus, my approach will be to not deal with them at all and just block
their mail.


I am curious if anyone
  - thinks my assessment of the fundamentals is off
  - thinks there is a reasonable way to use their imagery in JOSM
  - anything else similar

  - has also been spammed (private replies please and I'll post a
followup if I get a bunch of comments)

Greg

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Re: [OSM-talk] mapilio? (street-level imagery)

[Christian Quest]

Le 24/05/2023 à 14:31, Greg Troxel a écrit :

I just got spam from mapilio, implying that I was a "Mapilio
contributor".  This was, to my memory, the first I had heard of them.


I have avoided most street-level imagery schemes as not being
structurally similar to OSM (open source tooling, community project and
licensing scheme).



I'm not answering directly to your post, but I think you may like my 
answer ;)



I'm currently working on the Panoramax project, co-originated by 
OpenStreetMap France and IGN (Institut Géographique National).


In the very near future, we should have a street-level imagery offer 
that matches:


- open source tooling

- community project

- (real) open licensing scheme

as well as...

- decrentralized / federated solution... to avoid having one more time a 
single point of failure with an actor hosting all the pictures !


We have not communicated much so far except in France on 
https://panoramax.fr/ as we're still working on the MVP.



--
Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France


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