[OSM-talk] Merging Offline Edits with the POSM Replay Tool (blog post)

[Alan McConchie]

Hello everyone!

Many of you probably heard about the Portable OSM project that SpatialDev and 
Stamen have been working on with the American Red Cross.

Here's an introductory blog post if you missed it: 
https://hi.stamen.com/introducing-portable-openstreetmap-bff9b04c0e16 
, and 
there's the SOTM-US video here: 
http://stateofthemap.us/2016/field-mapping-at-scale/ 


Just today, Seth Fitzsimmons posted an extremely detailed blog post about how 
POSM merges offline edits with the main OSM database once the POSM unit comes 
back from the field. The process uses a git-inspired approach to detect which 
changes can be applied automatically without conflict, and which ones require 
manual oversight to merge with OSM.

Here's the blog post:
https://hi.stamen.com/merging-offline-edits-with-the-posm-replay-tool-2f39a4410d2a
 



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Re: [OSM-talk] Status of Field Papers

[Alan McConchie]

Atlas creation on Field Papers is back up again! Sorry everyone for the 
extended downtime! 

We are still having some issues where there are occasional black tiles showing 
up on the maps. We're working on this problem, and if you come across any black 
map tiles, please send me an email at a...@stamen.com or file an issue on 
github here: https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues 
<https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers/issues>

In the meantime, if you get any atlases with black tiles, try regenerating the 
atlas. Usually this takes care of the problem.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Status of Field Papers

[Alan McConchie]

Hello Arun! 

At Stamen we are aware that Field Papers has been down for a few days (at least 
the atlas generation part) and we're working on fixing it.

We appreciate how important Field Papers is to the OSM community, and we 
welcome ideas about how to improve its stability and to find resources to 
support it. We'd be happy to work with the OSMF, HOT or any other organization 
to apply for funds for further improvements to Field Papers. We also would love 
to find ways for other developers and support staff to get involved in the 
maintenance and improvement of field papers. If you (or anyone) would like to 
help, please get in touch!

We hope to get Field Papers back online very soon. Thanks for your patience, 
and we're sorry for any inconvenience!

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> On Nov 9, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
> 
> Hello from India! As part of a national digital literacy program my team has 
> been experimenting with using fieldpapers[1] to introduce mapping to students 
> from rural areas. 
> 
> However it looks like the service is currently down and atlas generation has 
> not been possible over the past few days. This has brought our training 
> program to an abrupt halt.
> 
> Given the tremendous educational value of field papers, it would be welcome 
> if the OSMF could support running such a service to make it more reliable and 
> an integrated part of the osm.org <http://osm.org/> homepage.
> 
> Unfortunately we don't have the technical resources to fork the project at 
> the moment, but it would be greatly appreciated if anyone can provide 
> alternate solutions in the short term to continue to use field papers or a 
> similar service to get more people to map.
> 
> [1] http://fieldpapers.org/ <http://fieldpapers.org/>
> 
> -- 
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[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap and the Ada Initiative #osm4ada

[Alan McConchie]

The Ada Initiative [1] is an organization doing important work supporting women 
in open technology and culture, and right now they're raising money to fund 
their work for the next year. Thanks to Kathleen Danielson (diary entry here 
[2]) there is now an OpenStreetMap campaign to donate to Ada before their 
fundraising deadline on October 8th. We set a goal of USD $ 2,048 for this 
campaign, and we're already 25% of the way there after only a few hours!

To donate to Ada and show that diversity is important to the OpenStreetMap 
community, please use this OSM donation link: 
https://adainitiative.org/donate/?campaign=openstreetmap

You can use the hashtag #osm4ada to show OSM's support of the Ada Initiative in 
any social media posts about the campaign.

Note, to my knowledge there is no specific OSM-related Ada activities that will 
be supported by these funds. Your donation is primarily to help the Ada 
Initiative's work in general. However, the more of us donate to the Ada 
campaign on behalf of OSM, the more those donations will count as informal 
votes for more OSM+Ada collaboration in the future.

Alan

[1] http://adainitiative.org/
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KathleenLD/diary/23967
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

[Alan McConchie]

You should also check out a few academic research groups that have done studies 
on completeness in OSM:

 * Muki Haklay and his collaborators at University College London
 * Peter Mooney and Padraig Corcoran at National University of Ireland
 * Pascal Neis and Alexander Zipf at Heidelberg University

Alan

On Sep 3, 2014, at 5:15 AM, Imre Samu  wrote:

> 
> > completeness of the road datasets in OSM.
> 
> if you are interested the Street(=road) name comparision 
> - check this local projects:
> 
> #OSM Housenumber Evaluation ( with street names )  : 
> https://www.sotm-eu.org/slides/58.pdf ( video: 
> https://www.sotm-eu.org/en/slots/50 )
> http://regio-osm.de/hausnummerauswertung/auswertung_auswahlort 
> (Germany, Austria, Iceland, Romania, Luxemburg,.. )
> 
> #Hungary : Street name completeness statistics :  http://82.196.14.91/  ( my 
> development )
> 
> #Switzerland : http://qa.poole.ch/ch-roads/
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_-_GWR_Street_and_Place_Names_Comparison
> 
> #UK  - 
>  Completeness analysis and ranking of UK councils by ITO World comparing OS 
> Locator data.
>  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_and_OSL_differences_analysis
>  http://www.itoworld.com/product/data/osm_analysis/main
> 
> Imre
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-09-02 14:29 GMT+02:00 Eleanor Stokes :
> Hi list,
> Not sure if this is the right place to post--but I just got into using OSM and
> am hoping to utilize it for some of my research.  I need to get some kind of
> completeness metric for each of the cities I am looking at (about 200 of 
> them).
> 
> Does anyone happen to know of completeness analyses
> across cities in different regions that have been performed?
> I'm particularly interested in the completeness of the
> road datasets in OSM.
> 
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

[Alan McConchie]

Leavenworth is a former logging town that has been turned into a mock Bavarian 
village as a tourist attraction. So I'm not surprised that they are adding 
"Weg" to their streets to seem more Germanic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leavenworth,_Washington

Alan

On May 29, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Clay Smalley  wrote:

> "Weg" is German, approximately means "way." It's right as it is, no 
> abbreviation.
> 
> Funny though that it's outside of the German Sprachraum. Is Leavenworth a 
> town with a lot of German heritage?
> 
> On May 29, 2014 4:37 PM, "Clifford Snow"  wrote:
> I need help with a street name. In Leavenworth, WA there is a street named 
> "Edelweiss Weg" that I want to add. Is Weg an abbreviation for something? It 
> will be tagged highway=service service=alley. Google translate doesn't help. 
> 
> If it is an abbreviation, should it be expanded as we usually do?
> 
> Thanks from someone with a language deficit. 
> 
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[OSM-talk] Where should OSM announcements happen? Was: Upgraded map controls

[Alan McConchie]

So, I finally caught up on the long "Upgraded map controls" and "Bringing new 
life to OSM.org" threads. I was especially interested in the discussion about 
where major changes to OSM should be announced, whether on "talk", or 
"rails-dev", or github, or IRC, or the blog, etc. 

As far as I can tell, nobody mentioned the annou...@openstreetmap.org list. 
Surely that list is an ideal low-traffic venue for informing the community of 
impending changes, and directing people to an appropriate forum for further 
discussion? 


Alan

On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:24 PM, colliar wrote:

> Am 21.07.2013 22:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
>>> It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't
>>> live on
>>> the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
>> 
>> Yes, I can imagine that to some a "you only have to follow rails-dev" is
>> a very hitchhikers-guidesque response.
>> 
>> My impression is this:
>> 
>> 1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and "talk"
>> in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good
>> ideas, and endless "bikeshedding", and whatnot. I think that this is not
>> supported by facts.
>> 
>> 2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing
>> lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell.
>> 
>> 3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is
>> not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain.
>> 
>> Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot.
>> 
>> I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when
>> something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere,
>> someone informs the "talk" list about that. For example, in the specific
>> case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick
>> note should have gone up on talk: "look here this new design, being
>> discussed here in case you want to say something". A couple of people
>> might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to
>> have been told about it.
>> 
>> Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we
>> should make it a habit.
> 
> +1
> 
>> I'll start with:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/"landing" page
>> used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the
>> sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here
>> 
>> http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome
>> 
>> and the discussion is here
>> 
>> https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338
> 
> Please, use an own thread for announcements, otherwise they are often
> missed.
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Gregory,

That was me tweeting about Occupy Vancouver (the perils of having a twitter 
handle that's unrelated to my real name). I would like to map the internal 
structure of the camps in detail, although I am still uncertain if that much 
detail makes sense to include in OSM. But I figured that if people were going 
to do some mapping, there's no harm in using Walking Papers as their basemap, 
whether or not the maps get traced into OSM in the end. Here are a couple 
example maps someone else made that used Google Maps as the basemap, so they 
can't go into OSM no matter what we decide about tagging and appropriate levels 
of detail: http://yfrog.com/nvmzi5j http://yfrog.com/nx3vnnj

Regarding the tags, isn't civil_disobedience=camp_site extremely specific? I 
can't really think of any other forms of civil_disobedience that would be 
long-lasting enough to include in OSM (and even the #occupy camps are pushing 
the limits of appropriate longevity for OSM). Perhaps a more generic tag that 
would also work for the refugee camps, too? 

Alan

On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Gregory wrote:

> I would suggest it would be nice to do a mashup with OSM + occupy locations.
> But then it is possibly helpful for the locations to be crowd sourced, so you 
> could add it into OSM with some tagging that would not disrupt current 
> renderers/programs.
> 
> Go with civil_disobedience=camp_site?
> I don't know about the other details('bookshops', tents etc), I'd be less 
> inclined to add those in.
> 
> http://twitter.com/mappingmashups Was tweeting about mapping Occupy 
> Vancouver. But I *think* his aim was to map the detail in the areas they are 
> occupying.
> http://twitter.com/#!/mappingmashups/status/133662563169869824
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi Frederik,

On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:34 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I was just pointing out that if a number of people decide to put up tents 
> somewhere, that place might be a "camp" but not a "camp site", certainly not 
> one in the sense of tourism=camp_site. (Hint: A camp site is still a camp 
> site even when there are no tents.)

I appreciate your argument that tourism=camp_site might not be the correct tag. 
I would quibble about the distinction between "camp" and "camp_site"; the 
#occupy camps are not officially signed or recognized as camp sites, yet they 
may be so in terms of the on-the-ground rule. In most of the cases where camps 
have been cleared by police, the protestors have returned and erected new 
tents. So instead of camps, are they perhaps temporary/provisional/unofficial 
camp sites? 

It seems like the crux of the issue is whether the tourism=camp_site tag is 
meant to exclude all non-touristic camps and camp sites. Or is not relevant 
that this tag uses the "tourism" key? Couldn't it just as easily have used the 
leisure, amenity or landuse tag? 

> The mapping of an #occupy camp itself does not have a political aspect; 
> what's there on the ground can be mapped. However, attracting above-par 
> visibility to such a camp by purposefully mis-tagging it as a 
> "tourism=camp_site" *does* have a political aspect, and would only be 
> permissible if carried by a vast majority of the project as was the case with 
> Haiti.

I disagree that this is a question about tagging for the renderer. I think the 
question is whether tourism=camp_site is used and interpreted broadly enough to 
include a protest camp. If it is interpreted loosely, then using that tag is 
not "attracting above-par visibility". Also, if we do choose new tags, (and 
assuming they get onto the mapnik rendering) I would hope that they would be no 
more or less visible than tourism=camp_site already is, so it's not an attempt 
to jump up in zoom levels. Personally I think there would be little harm in 
using the tourism key in this case, but others may disagree.

> I think the #occupy camps should be mapped in all detail, with special tags, 
> and someone should take it upon them to make specialist maps where these tags 
> are rendered. (Our best zoom level, 18, is not very suitable for camps 
> anyway, you would want to have 19 or 20 to make a proper camp map.)

Good point. This alone might be a good enough reason to use a special 
rendering, or not use OSM altogether. 


Alan


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[OSM-talk] #Occupy camps in OSM?

[Alan McConchie]

Hi everyone,

I mooted this question on the IRC, but I also wanted to ask it here, too. 
Should the temporary camps of the #OccupyWallStreet movement be mapped in OSM? 
Clearly these are temporary and rapidly changing structures, but some of the 
camps have remained relatively stable for several weeks now. OSM already 
includes things like Burning Man, which only lasts for one week.

Does anyone know of any #Occupy camps that have already been mapped? I checked 
NYC, London, San Francisco and Oakland and didn't see anything. Or, have any 
similar camps been mapped in OSM already, other than Burning Man? 

I figure we could use many of the same features that Burning Man uses, 
primarily tourism:camp_site, plus keys like start_date and end_date (if 
applicable). 

I also should say that I don't think it needs to be a political question 
whether or not OSM supports the #Occupy movement. Whether or not we agree with 
the protests, these are newsworthy places that many people would like to know 
about, not just the protestors.


Thanks,

Alan
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