Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Corrections - Oriel Road, Carrickmacross, Monaghan

2014-03-25 Thread Andrew McCarthy
Hi Colm,

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:47:51PM +, Colm Moore wrote:
 I'm not an editor, so I would be grateful if someone could make the following 
 corrections.
 
 The road marked Drummond Otra R135 here: 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.9694/-6.7140 appears to actually be 
 Oriel Road: 
 https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Carrickmacrosshl=enll=53.969883,-6.703822spn=0.001309,0.003819sll=53.992634,-6.727495sspn=0.02094,0.06oq=Carrickmacrossdirflg=whnear=Carrickmacross,+County+Monaghant=mz=18layer=ccbll=53.969824,-6.70399panoid=Vs-QTpKrA2B--3p3M4_ogQcbp=12,224.73,,1,3.94

The history of the road in OSM shows that, up to a year ago, it was
called Oriel Road and was renamed. The townland name Drummond Otra is
used in various places (including the Regional Routes SI) which may be
the source of the confusion.

I've changed the name back.

 It seems likely that it is the R927, but the entry in the Roads Act
 1993 (Classification of Regional Roads) Order 2012:
 http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2012/en/si/0054.html appears confused.
 Convent Lands Road is, presumably, actually Oriel Road. Google
 maps has Convent Lands at Bothar Eanna. Moyheross is spelled
 Magheross by the Ordnance Survey. This would appears to be the
 extent of the R927:
 https://maps.google.ie/maps?saddr=Unknown+roaddaddr=53.9690969,-6.7110419+to:53.9675068,-6.7144707+to:Castleblaney+Roadhl=enll=53.974616,-6.710672spn=0.027916,0.06sll=53.982743,-6.715114sspn=0.005236,0.015278geocode=FTaENwMdObaZ_w%3BFciANwMd_5iZ_ykr1H5IMbJgSDH9s5RNX7CjrQ%3BFZJ6NwMdmouZ_ylJmLJFN7JgSDEjnvznIaL-XQ%3BFUe2NwMdCoKZ_wdirflg=wmra=dmemrsp=3sz=16via=1,2t=mz=14

That looks like the only possibility. I've updated the ref on Oriel
Road.

 The R135 is the former N3: http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2012/en/si/0054.html

Yes, that shouldn't be anywhere near here.

Take a look at the map (you may need to force a reload to update the map
tiles) and let me know.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] mapping roads

2014-03-15 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 09:06:30PM +, Donie Kelly wrote:
 I got nothing back. Didn't follow it up. 

The Garda website says it complies with the Regulations on the Re-Use
of Public Sector Information:
http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=1442Lang=1

You might have better luck contacting the people at http://psi.gov.ie/,
they might be able to clarify about reusing information in OSM.

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin Maps

2010-05-17 Thread Andrew McCarthy
Hi,

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:48:53PM -0400, Sami Dalouche wrote:
 The http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php page contains only
 auto-routable maps, right ?
 
 My current need is to get :
 - routable maps for Quebec, Vermont, New Hampshire, and NY
 - hiking maps for Quebec, Vermont, New Hampshire, and NY
 
 But more generally, I think I would like to (and think it would benefit
 the OSM community if it were possible) be able to just go one one
 website, that presents me with all the maps I can download for a given
 (predefined) area, and quickly load it to my GPS device.

There's also http://gpsmapsearch.com/ which links to other people's
maps. This is the highest referrer to my own web page of Irish Garmin
maps.

Andrew

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[OSM-talk-ie] Rewording tertiary and unclassified in Wiki

2010-03-15 Thread Andrew McCarthy
Hi folks,

Before editing the wiki on something as fundamental as highway tags, I
thought I'd suggest some rewording here for the tertiary and
unclassified highways, since some confusion arises since everything is
at least L.

Highway=tertiary

Current:
Unclassified (or Local) roads whose importance for through
traffic is quite high. This can be the case both in urban and
rural areas.

Proposed:
Local L roads whose importance for through traffic is quite
high. This can be the case both in urban and rural areas. The
choice of applying tertiary or unclassified in Ireland is
subjectively chosen by you, the mapper.


Highway=unclassified

Current:
No administrative classification. Unclassified roads typically
form the lowest form of the interconnecting grid network.

Note: This is not a marker for roads where we still need to
choose a highway tag.

Proposed:
Local L roads of low importance for through traffic. These
roads are the lowest form of the public road network.

Note: Don't be misled by the name: Ireland does not have
unclassified roads, we instead use this tag to indicate
different levels of important in L roads. This is also not a
marker for roads where we still need to choose a highway tag;
use highway=road for that.


Thoughts?

Andrew

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FYI: N Route re-designations as Motorways

2009-07-16 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 06:42:18PM +0100, Thomas Bibby wrote:
  N7: Limerick Bypass section, but how much of it?
 
 From the roundabout at start of the dual carriageway bypass (junction
 with under construction motorway), to the R511 overbridge (a few
 hundred metres before the N7/N20 interchange roundabout, strangely)
 
  N20: Anybody know exactly how much of it?
 
 The SI [1] says from 660m south of the N7/N20 roundabout, which is
 about mid-way between the roundabout and the first offramp on the N20
 (interestingly enough this offramp got a single blue sign showing the
 exit, none anywhere else on the N20), to where the N20 branches off
 and the N21 goes straight on.

Just a thought, but are these points the official boundary of the
Limerick Tunnel scheme, in particular the new N20/N7 interchange which
is mentioned separately? The 50km/hr temporary speed limit on the N20
northbound starts quite a bit before you see any roadworks, for
instance.

Andrew

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Re: [OSM-talk] Large Hadron Collider at CERN now in OppenStreetMap

2008-09-10 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 06:28:15AM -0700, Karl Newman wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Its not perfectly positioned and I think the circumference is a tad short
  but I made a reasonably good insert of the CERN LHC (and SPS) into the
  database last night in time for the first full circle beam test of the LHC,
  which has just successfully completed. So, for anyone wanting to know
  exactly where the two accelerator rings are in the world it's now possible
  to point them to OpenStreetMap. Another first for community mapping :-)
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.2731lon=6.073zoom=12layers=0B00FTF
 
  I hope the data made the planet dump (JIT), in which case it should appear
  also on the Mapnik layer shortly.
 
  For now the two rings are tagged with highway=trunk and highway=primary
  respectively. They also carry tunnel=true of course. There are a couple of
  big notes tagged as well that confirm the highway tag is less than ideal
  and
  that something better needs to be used. But for now, since they don't
  connect with the road network I don't think anyone will be routing over
  them
  ;-)
 
  enjoy
 
  Cheers
 
  Andy
 
 
 Not sure if you should be chastised for tagging for the renderer or
 commended for the PR effort :-P

Perhaps highway=footway, bicycle=yes, access=private isn't too far from
the truth? :)

Andrew


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Re: [OSM-talk] last person to edit?

2008-08-17 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 08:53:50PM +0100, graham wrote:
 Thanks Shaun
 
 Simple when you know how.
 Odd though - I just corrected some roads someone had dragged off by a 
 few hundred metres; the history shows me creating the roads 6 months ago 
 and correcting them this evening, but nothing in between. Is there any 
 kind of edit it doesn't show?

If no nodes were added or removed from the way, the changes may only
show up in the nodes themselves, and not the way. Can you check if
that's the case?

Cheers,

Andrew


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tilesathome] Which layers for captionless?

2008-06-06 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 07:07:54PM +0100, 80n wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Alan Millar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Right now the wiki instructions say not to upload the z9-z11 captionless
  tiles; should that be changed?
 
 
 Yes, if that's what it says.

Following on from that, captionless tiles should be uploaded for layers
1-8 now, too?

And if I understand correctly, the final idea will be to have no tile
layer at all, just captionless and transparent captions at all zoom
levels?

Andrew


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Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 01:33:31PM +0100, Steve Hill wrote:
 But a motorway which is not a continuous road (i.e. has gaps in it) is 
 _not_ a single road - I see no reason why it should be treated as one. 
 Maybe you could cite some examples of why you need to treat it as a single 
 road, even though it has gaps in it?

Can we not have both?

(1) A relation which contains all the ways that define a road according
to its official designation, whether a single road, or several disjoint
pieces.

and 

(2) A relation for that road's notional route, that contains the
relation above *plus* the (usually obvious) connecting bits that give
you a single, long distance route from A to B.

Different people will find the two options useful. Or am I missing
something here?

Andrew


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Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew McCarthy
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 02:25:11PM +0100, Steve Hill wrote:
 Which bits you use to connect the disjointed sections are a rather 
 arbitrary decision - should OSM be making such decisions?  I mean, there is 
 no officially documented this is how you get between these sections route 
 so we would be making a route up arbitrarilly.

 Sure, for some stuff it might be obvious, but for a lot of stuff it isn't.  
 Take the A31, for example - it joins the M3 near Winchester but then 
 reappears on the westerly end of the M27.  You might say that the M3 and 
 M27 is obviously the missing link and add that to the A31 relation, but 
 that would be completely unsuitable for cyclists.  This really isn't the 
 job for submitters, this is the job for a route planner program - 
 submitters are supposed to be recording data, not making relatively 
 arbitrary decisions about which routes people should take.

Okay, I take your point. In Ireland I'm not aware of any such extreme
examples (except the N3), with most disjoins being only a few hundred
metres at most.

In that case, would the use of highway relations be restricted to such
cases where there is one *official* route, with differing refs? For
example, National Primary Road 7 in Ireland is the entire road from
Dublin to Limerick. It's called the N7, but for those portions where
it's a motorway, it's the M7. In this case ref=M7;N7 would only be
appropriate for the motorway if N7 was guaranteed not to appear.

:)

Andrew


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