Re: [talk-au] Very cool NSW transport real time map

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi all,

Not so different to the MarineTraffic.com map of the world.

Arthur

On 19/3/19 12:21 pm, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:

Source: https://twitter.com/SimonGIS/status/1060789315653922816
Also some code on Github: https://github.com/bgtdevhub/tfnsw-wab-widget

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:07 PM Dion Moult > wrote:


Just thought I'd share this very cool real time map of transport
in NSW that I found online - don't know who is behind it but it's
awesome! And yes, it has OSM as a background.

https://www.bgtdevhub.com/TfNSW/index.html


Dion Moult



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Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Alex,

Thank you for the additional information I shall go through it all ASAP.

Arthur

On 3/1/19 6:42 pm, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
Having a look at the mapping guidelines I did find Beacons 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Beacons can have Radio 
Stations https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Radio_Stations 
including seamark:radio_station:category=ais "An AIS radiobeacon on a 
seamark that reports its own position" and a lot of other AIS radio 
station types including some that aren't really a buoy there - 
virtual! 
(http://www.professionalmariner.com/August-2014/synthetic-aids-virtual-buoys/) 



I can find some seamarks but not radio stations in NSW 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/EVh 
http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16=-33.87089=151.18538=-33.87079=151.18459=BFTFFTF0FF
But I did find a red buoy near Macau that is AIS enabled 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5793357137 
http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16=22.11957=113.61184=BFTFFTF0FF


So I assume one must do some seaside mapping using some kind of radio 
like an SDR to get the position data? 
https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-cheap-ais-ship-tracking/


On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 6:34 PM Marc Gemis <mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>> wrote:


AFAIK, OpenSeaMap is dedicated rendering based on the same
OpenStreetMap database as the map of e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org
The OpenSeaMap project also defines certain tags that are only used
for navigation on water. See [1] for more info on how it works.

So on one hand they are already combined (use the same database), but
they are also separate (OpenSeaMap provides their own rendering of the
data).

regards

m.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:17 AM Arthur Geeson mailto:ag200...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to use the position data received from Automatic
Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for
navigational aids for marine ships to plot the position of these
piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would be copy right
information?
>
> Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ?
>
> Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made -
beacon' tag.  Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap.  I
am not sure why we would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should
these not be combined? However if they are separate so be it.  It
would seem that OpenSeaMap has a number of suitable icons but I
was not able to search it.  Basically AIS does not seem to be
supported on either of the maps.
>
> MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the
positions of many thousands of ships around the world based on AIS
input.
>
> Is anyone able to help?
>
> Thanks - Arthur
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Re: [talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Graeme,

On receiving the AIS data about half of the messages at my location come 
from fixed location beacons that ships are able to receive and then plot 
the positions on their display along with their GPS position and the 
positions of other vessels.  They are then able to navigate with greater 
safety knowing what is around them.  These fixed location beacons I feel 
should be also permanently marked on the OSM so that weekend sailors can 
use the OSM with more information available.  I presume that these 
beacons consist of a pile or buoy fitted with a solar panel, battery and 
VHF transmitter with software to control the transmission.  They are of 
course situated in suitable locations to assist with navigation.


Hope this helps - Arthur

On 3/1/19 6:30 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:



On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 16:17, Arthur Geeson <mailto:ag200...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi,

I would like to use the position data received from Automatic
Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for
navigational aids for marine ships to plot the position of these
piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would be copy right
information?


What are you actually wanting to map, Arthur?

Anchorages, nav aids, what?

Thanks

Graeme
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[talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

I would like to use the position data received from Automatic
Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for navigational aids
for marine ships to plot the position of these piles on the OSM but I am
not sure if this would be copy right information?

Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ?

Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made - beacon' tag.
Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap.  I am not sure why we
would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should these not be combined?
However if they are separate so be it.  It would seem that OpenSeaMap has a
number of suitable icons but I was not able to search it.  Basically AIS
does not seem to be supported on either of the maps.

MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the positions of many
thousands of ships around the world based on AIS input.

Is anyone able to help?

Thanks - Arthur
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Re: [talk-au] Victorian Street names source?

[Arthur Geeson]

Are we able to use the house numbers in LASSI?

Regards - Arthur


On 30/04/18 07:38, John Berkers wrote:

Which editor are you using?

JOSM has an imagery layer for VicMap which shows street names from 
LASSI.  LASSI is more generally available here:


https://maps.land.vic.gov.au/lassi/VicnamesUI.jsp

The Contributions page shows that VicMap Data is approved for use, 
with the DELWP having completed the CC-BY-4.0 waiver.


Hope that helps.

Regards,

JohnB

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:00 AM Kim Oldfield 
> wrote:


Hi,

Is there a government resource which can be for Victorian street
names in OSM?

I vaguely remember one being mentioned, but I can't find it now.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Victoria,_Australia#Street_data_sources
suggests reading street signs, or using links which don't work:
MMBW (link redirects to SLV home page) or Collins (link times out).

I'm trying to name way 180239086
,
part of which is called Pine Ave, but I'm not sure how much.

Regards,
Kim
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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Arthur Geeson]

I have been busy doing street names and house numbers for some years:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.09198/144.35883

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.36135/-1.98845

I normally use Potlatch and the address consists of street number and 
name, post code and suburb name for each house.  I question if it is 
necessary to add the post code and suburb name as these are implicit in 
the dwelling location. It does get very repetitive. If these are 
required for searching purposes perhaps they could be done using 
software on the data base?  I presume it is all stored and taking up 
database space?


Arthur


On 28/12/17 12:51, Nick Hocking wrote:
Address data could also be used to verify street/road names and also 
add them where they are missing.



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[talk-au] Rendering of BBQs

[Arthur Geeson]

Is there a reason that BBQs are not being rendered?

Arthur


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Re: [talk-au] Tags for ANZAC memorial - Hyde Park, Sydney

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Warin,

I usually look at a few examples that already exist such as:
artist=William Haywood
historic=memorial
material=concrete
name=Scout War Memorial
source=survey
start_date=1924_07_27
wikimedia_commons=Category:Scout Memorial Birmingham
wikipedia:architect=en:William Haywood(architect)
listed_status=

or

memorial=blue_plaque
memorial_type=plaque
tourism=artwork

Hope this helps - Arthur



On 12/05/14 22:04, Warin wrote:

Hi,

I'm presently looking at the improving/adding features to the mapping 
of Sydney's Botanic Gardens/Domain as I'am spending some time inside 
the State Library do other research, lunch in the park (if sunny). As 
part of that I came across


The ANZAC memorial - Hyde Park, Sydney is tagged as

amenity=public_building
building=yes
name=ANZAC Memorial

I think it should be

historic=monument
tourism=attraction
building=yes
name=ANZAC Memorial


For reference/comparision the Australian War Memorial, Canberra is 
tagged (neglecting the name etc.)


on the building;

historic=memorial
tourism=attraction
building=yes

and on a node(yes a separate node inside the building);

historic=memorial
tourism=museum

I think here the 'memorial' should be changed to 'monument' to reflect 
the size at least (as per the wiki, memorials being smaller, say the 
size of a statue, monuments being larger, say the size of a small 
building). And the node could be removed? (Or is there a reason for a 
separate node?) Thus tagging the building as


historic=monument
tourism=museum
building=yes


Thoughs?



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Re: [talk-au] JOSM and losing Bing Hi Res zoom recently

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Jason,

I spent the first half of this year using potlatch 3 in Birmingham 
England and was always able to get down to Z20  Z21.  I came back to 
Australia in September and have been stuck on Z19 for Australian mapping 
but still get to Z21 in England.  I do a lot of houses and buildings and 
it is very difficult at the Z19 level as many of the house details are 
too close together to enable the two nodes to sit side by side.


Regards - Arthur (geesona)

On 06/12/13 09:59, Jason Ward wrote:


Hi folks,

I'm at a bit of a loss right now and wonder if any of you have 
experienced the same issue.


For about a week on 2 different machines I have only had access to 
zoom level 19.


I've pretty much run down every google result possible (remove tile 
cache, remove attribution file et al)  and am still having the issue.


I've even looked up the JOSM bug tracker and sat in the JOSM dev chat 
room before posting here.  The reason I'm starting here is to check if 
it's a localised Bing problem or whether one of you smart people knows 
whether something has changed that would cause this issue.


I note that other parts of the globe are not affected as I can view 
London at a Zoom of 20 (I think).


Help! I've done a local street survey for house numbering and I'm 
reluctant to do any tracing until I can resolve this.


Cheers,

Jason



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[talk-au] Loading JOSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Thank you to the replies I got for my problems with JOSM/Java.

Yesterday I removed everything java from my machine and reloaded java 
with sudo apt-get install but it totally refused to start and didn't 
seem to be even loaded correctly.  I tried updates etc. all to no 
avail.  Today I located 
http://roger.steneteg.org/535/how-to-install-oracle-java-on-ubuntudebian/; 
and followed it through and this resulted in jre1.7.0_45 working 
correctly.  So I now have JOSM up and running.


Thanks again for the help.

Arthur (geesona)

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[talk-au] loading JOSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

Firstly a thank you to the replies I got about the missing bench seats 
that were not appearing on the map.


I have been trying to get JOSM working and it implied that I had a 
version of java that was too old.  I then spend several hours to get a 
new version of java and now when I try to run JOSM it just falls over.  
I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and get the following problems:


arthur@arthur-Aspire-5750G:/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin$ java 
-version

java version 1.7.0_25
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.10) (7u25-2.3.10-1ubuntu0.12.04.2)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode)

arthur@arthur-Aspire-5750G:/$ josm
Using /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386/bin/java to execute josm.
java.awt.HeadlessException
at 
java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.checkHeadless(GraphicsEnvironment.java:207)

at java.awt.Window.init(Window.java:535)
at java.awt.Frame.init(Frame.java:420)
at javax.swing.JFrame.init(JFrame.java:218)
at 
org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.MainApplication.main(MainApplication.java:316)


I have tried reloading JOSM and the plugins but it seems there maybe 
something wrong with java?


Thanks - Arthur (geesona)

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[talk-au] Park benches

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

I have been mapping Geelong for the last month and have been trying to 
put some seats and tourism artworks around Rippleside Park but for some 
unknown reason they fail to appear on the map.  Other items such as the 
war memorial and shelters arrived with no problems. Does anyone know a 
reason for this?


Thanks - Arthur (geesona)

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[talk-au] Problems saving input to OSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

I have just arrived back in Australia following several months in the UK 
and have been logging on to OSM with no troubles but when I try to save 
my map changes the save just seems to hang for most of the time.  I have 
had a couple of good sessions where it has saved well.  Any one one able 
to help?


Thanks Arthur (geesona)

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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Longbridge

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

I had a ride around Longbridge in the rain this afternoon with the GPS 
running so I would like to work on the new Park View housing estate on 
the corner between Lickey Road and Lowhill Lane.  See you at Northfield 
at around 8pm.


Arthur

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social this coming Thursday in Droitwich.

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Mike,

That's a very good point about food in the evening.  The web site I got 
my info from indicated that they had a good menu but on other web sites 
it seems that its a lunch time menu.  A second look on the internet 
indicates that the Old Cock Inn which is just up the street does have 
evening meals so I suggest we meet there.


Sorry about the error. - Arthur


On 02/07/13 23:28, Mike Duffy wrote:
I will walk Ombursley/ union street area. Hope Hop Inn does food in 
evenings

Miked29
*From:* Arthur Geeson mailto:ag200...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 8:11 PM
*To:* talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org 
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*Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social this coming Thursday in 
Droitwich.
I have never spent any time in Droitwich but a quick search on the 
internet seemed to suggest the Hop Pole Inn that is reasonably close 
to the railway station.  Droitwich seems to really needs a mapping 
session as the OSM details are sadly lacking.


See you there - Arthur


On 29/06/13 06:56, Andy Robinson wrote:


We are due to be in Droitwich for our monthly map and social on 
Thursday. Is anyone able to suggest a suitable venue? Alas I can't 
make it this month, Liz and I have a wedding reception to go to.


Cheers

Andy



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] z19

[Arthur Geeson]

I like the extra detail that is possible with this view.  Where I have 
an east west line of houses no numbers only names they all are viewable 
on this set up.


Arthur

On 01/07/13 22:57, Andy Robinson wrote:


Woo. Z19 on orm http://orm.openstreetmap.org/#19/52.56260/-1.82460



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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social this coming Thursday in Droitwich.

[Arthur Geeson]

I have never spent any time in Droitwich but a quick search on the 
internet seemed to suggest the Hop Pole Inn that is reasonably close to 
the railway station.  Droitwich seems to really needs a mapping session 
as the OSM details are sadly lacking.


See you there - Arthur


On 29/06/13 06:56, Andy Robinson wrote:


We are due to be in Droitwich for our monthly map and social on 
Thursday. Is anyone able to suggest a suitable venue? Alas I can't 
make it this month, Liz and I have a wedding reception to go to.


Cheers

Andy



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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Robin Hood Way

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi,

I was chatting with my brother yesterday who walked the Robin Hood Way 
last year and he sent me his gps track of the whole trip. Where/who 
should I send this to be most use by others?  I see there is Robin Hood 
Way page but I don't know how to contribute.


Thanks Arthur

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