[OSM-talk] OSM Carto not updating

2020-06-27 Thread ET Commands
Is something wrong with the OSM Carto servers?  I have uploaded several 
changesets in the last few hours, and none of them are showing up in OSM 
Carto.


Mark


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Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-27 Thread ET Commands



Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:02:47 +1000
From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

On 27/5/20 9:40 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:

then why are there tags ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Demolished_Railway
and if the platform posts are still there ?


Those tags are for things that are still there, if what remains is still
identifiable as a building/railway/road/bridge then that should be
mapped in OSM.


Historic things should be mapped into OHM, even if they are no longer
there or still remain ( a start and end date are usefull in OHM as a
date slider can be used to revel what is there at that date).



 Tuesday, May 26, 2020 4:52 PM -05:00 from Jack Armstrong
 :
 Thanks. I'll try that.

 From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com
 >

 Advise them to enter the historic railway into OHM ... or any
 historic object for that matter. This satisfies them that the
 object is mapped and frees OSM from it.



I like to download portions of  the OSM database from Geofabrik and make 
custom maps for my GPS.  I also understand we're not supposed to map 
historic objects in OSM, and why some people don't want to see 
dismantled/razed railroads in the OSM database.  Being a railfan, I am 
one of those that do want them.    Assuming all the dismantled railroads 
in OSM were transferred to OHM, is there a way to take my OSM extracts 
from Geofabrik and add in the dismantled railroads from OHM, so that the 
resulting map would contain what I want?  I know I can use JOSM to copy 
data from OHM to OSM, but for a large geographic area I don't think that 
would not be practical.


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Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 188, Issue 19

2020-04-20 Thread ET Commands



Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:12:19 +0200
From: François Lacombe 
To: osm-talk 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re[2]: Tag:manhole=telecom


Given problem is you argue with pictures showing what is under the cap.
On the tag page picture - and on the ground - we can't say what is under
and if a man can't get down a ladder into a room.

I think all this stuff would require a formal proposal to discuss about
vocabulary and have opinions of several people.
We need standard definitions more than legal actually.

All the best

Le lun. 20 avr. 2020 à 01:02, <80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> a écrit :


I am trying to say the tag page is wrong,
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:manhole=telecom
the picture is a fiber optics splice enclosure not a manhole

https://www.multicominc.com/product/pencell-pem-2436-24x36x24-buried-cable-enclosure/
https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/install/Microtrenching/Pages/25.html
https://www.thefoa.org/tech/ref/appln/Prefab-underground.jpg

this is a fiber splice manhole,

https://www.jensenprecast.com/AT-T-Northern-California-a840/Telecom-Utility-Structures/Manholes-p14890/AT-T-4-x4-x4-fiber-optic-Intercept-Manhole-Page-1-of-2-d2315.pdf

can we change the picture or put both on the same page with the legal
industry names.
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/manhole
( a man goes into the hole) [manhole]


[...]


I have to argue with the Lexico definition of a manhole.  I worked in 
the highway construction industry in the United States for 14 years, and 
in the industry the word "manhole" refers to the entire underground 
chamber that sewers are connected to.  We referred to the access on the 
top as a "manhole cover."


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