Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
> -Message d'origine- > De : John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 14 octobre 2009 06:55 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > 2009/10/14 Gilles Corlobé : > > In my opinion, the tag "landuse=military" should only be used for > specificly > > military activities, like those discribed in the wiki. > > Some of you have suggested to create 2 areas, covering the same > place. I > > don't think this is correct. One of you said that's done every day. > How can > > it be? There can't be a forest inside a residential area. The > residential > > area stops where begins the forest (and the contrary). > > The military have a training area near here: > > http://osm.org/go/ueWPq0J > > imho it should have 2 areas, one for the military training area and > one for the natural=wood that makes up the majority of the area: > > http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&ll=- > 25.92146,152.938957&spn=0.058514,0.111494&t=h&z=14 You're right : If the area is covered by a forest (or a lake, or whatever), it should appear like this on the map. What would a user think if he finds a forest (even if it's in a military area) that is not on the map? And we should remerber that all users are not forbiden to enter into military areas! Some users needs to know the exact nature of the area (to know the size of a forest for example). Gilles ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
> -Message d'origine- > De : Joseph Reeves [mailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com] > Envoyé : mercredi 14 octobre 2009 00:07 > À : Morten Kjeldgaard > Cc : Gilles Corlobé; talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > > To be honest I don't see the point. You should use the already > > existing landuse=military. School, parking lot, etc. that you > > mentioned should be rendered on top of that, like > landuse=residential. > > Using "landuse" also avoids certain ambiguities like: which side of > > the boundary is the military area? > > +1 > > Perhaps also use a relation to tie various landuses together into a > military-base=name group or something similar. > > If the OP doesn't like how nested landuse is rendered in a specific > renderer should they not file a bug with the maintainers of that > renderer? Seems better than adding to the db. > > Joseph In my opinion, the tag "landuse=military" should only be used for specificly military activities, like those discribed in the wiki. Some of you have suggested to create 2 areas, covering the same place. I don't think this is correct. One of you said that's done every day. How can it be? There can't be a forest inside a residential area. The residential area stops where begins the forest (and the contrary). Gilles ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
> -Message d'origine- > De : talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- > boun...@openstreetmap.org] De la part de Russ Nelson > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 17:54 > À : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : **SPAM ENGLISH BODY** Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > Gilles Corlobé writes: > > This tag is not currently used. But it could be very usefull here : > > http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- > > Why wait? Tag boldly and document what you did in the wiki. I didn't know I didn't have to wait the approval. It's now done : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
> -Message d'origine- > De : Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 17:46 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : **SPAM ENGLISH BODY** Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > > On 13 Oct 2009, at 16:35, Gilles Corlobé wrote: > > >> -Message d'origine- > >> De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] > >> Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 > >> À : Gilles Corlobé > >> Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > >> Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > >> - RFC - (boundary=military) > >> > >> Gilles Corlobé writes: > >>> I propose to add a tag "boundary=military" > >> > >> Where is this tag currently being used? Please point to several > >> examples so we can see what you mean. > > This tag is not currently used. But it could be very usefull here : > > http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- > > Inside the miltary area, there is : a forest, a research center, a > > high-school, a sport complexe with swiming pool, a parking lot, and > > accomodations for all the seamen (it's a navy facility). > > Before you propose a tag, you should be using it. > > Do you have any photos of this? For example signs. > > Shaun The photo on the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_area commes from there. And before using it, I wanted to get its approval from the community. But if it's ok, I'll do it. Gilles smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
> -Message d'origine- > De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] > Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 > À : Gilles Corlobé > Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org > Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal > - RFC - (boundary=military) > > Gilles Corlobé writes: > > I propose to add a tag "boundary=military" > > Where is this tag currently being used? Please point to several > examples so we can see what you mean. This tag is not currently used. But it could be very usefull here : http://osm.org/go/xXEahwWz-- Inside the miltary area, there is : a forest, a research center, a high-school, a sport complexe with swiming pool, a parking lot, and accomodations for all the seamen (it's a navy facility). Gilles ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)
Hello everybody, I propose to add a tag "boundary=military" : the problem is that, with the existing tags, it's almost impossible to mark correctly lots of data, like (non limitative list) forest, scholl, parking lot, Rather than multiplying the "military=*" tag, I suggest to only mark the external limit of the military area. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_base Comments are welcomed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Military_base Gilles ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
