[OSM-talk] Mediawiki OSMgadget to pull in OSM data
For those who also edit in wikipedia: there's an interesting OSMgadget in development, see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Bjohas/OSMgadget Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] gpsbabel and osm (.osm.cc file)
Hi folks, Recently I noticed that gpsbabel still uses version='0.5' string in its osm.cc (1). Latest josm for example complains now when it does not find version='0.6' string. I told gpsbabel about it in their mailing list (2). Today I got a reply (3): We don't really use the OSM API; we just read and write OSM XML files. The doc you cite doesn't appear to be relevant to our use. If 0.5 and 0.6 are different in some incompatible way, we need informationon what to change, sample files, etc. I don't think we haveany active OSMusers on our lists, so if you're interested in making this better, you can advance things. If it's been broken since 2009 and you're the first to notice, we should probably drop it as it's received only mechanical changes since 2008. The first step will be to identify the needed changes. If you're ready to tackle it, the OSM code is a little grubby, but you can see it at https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc I wrote back Well, all programs using .osm files understand version='0.6' now but some programs (like well-known josm) complain now when trying to open a file with version='0.5' string. and reply on that I just committed the change, but I've A) marked OSM for deprecationsince you're apparently the only one that's used it in five yeras andB) find gratuitous, pointlessly incompatible changes silly. I use gpsbabel not very often and don't know about other osm users but there might be some .cc developpers which might want to check their code (1). greetings Roman (1) https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc (2) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32426224/ (3) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32434559/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] stumbled upon a greek wms server
For people mapping Greece: I just stumbled upon a wms server for greece http://www.ktimatologio.gr/ktima/EN/index.php I didn't check the legals though - greece-mappers could try and contact them... Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Attribution of OSM on nearmap.om?
I'm missing the attribution of OSM data on the maps of nearmap - am I wrong or shouldn't it mention OSM on the map itself? On nearmap I only see the attribution after clicking "Terms of Use"... Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?
No, I have the issue on windows (didn't test linux). Roman From: Tomas Straupis To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2010-07-30 Roman Neum?ller: yeah, I'm having the same issues (Read timed out) Just got information that landsat images are loaded on windows and are NOT loaded on linux... So apparently this is NOT a data source problem. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?
yeah, I'm having the same issues (Read timed out) Roman From: Tomas Straupis Subject: [OSM-talk] Landsat? Hello Is anybody else experiencing landsat problems in JOSM? For about three days now landsat images are not available to JOSM. http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/ says something about evil ?repetitive requests for non-cached, small WMS tiles?. Does that mean no more landsat in JOSM? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:12:42 +0300, wrote:
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:04:29 +0200
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Subject: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch
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Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=39.111598&lon=-94.712041&zoom=19
More and more often some tiles take longer to load and endup in the
error-image ("We're sorry, the data you have requested...refresh your
browser to try again.").
Here is a link to a screen-shoot: http://yfrog.com/4vpotlatchj
This image stays, even if I change the browser or my IP-Address.
It also happens when I use maps.yahoo.com
(http://de.maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=h&lat=39.113862&lon=-94.713653&zoom=21).
Can anybody confirm, or is it just my computer?
Confirmed for yesterday (12.7.2010) - today (10:00) problem vanished for me
Roman
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Re: [OSM-talk] search field not vivisble when not logged in
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 02:45:17 +0300, Erik Johansson wrote: On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Roman Neumüller wrote: Hi all, The main page (map) doesn't show the search field when not being logged in - this is not very user friendly and doesn't conform to a "wiki" like site where the search field is usually good visible and placed high on a page (I had to scroll down half a VW lenght on my 1024*768 screen to see the field ;-) We had this subject before... It's feature, to make you see the State of the Map ad.. The State of the Map maybe interesting for a handful of profis - not for the newbie... Anyway, the "OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world..." takes about 248 pixel right away... Is at a "traffic" issue to put it down under? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] search field not vivisble when not logged in
Hi all, The main page (map) doesn't show the search field when not being logged in - this is not very user friendly and doesn't conform to a "wiki" like site where the search field is usually good visible and placed high on a page (I had to scroll down half a VW lenght on my 1024*768 screen to see the field ;-) We had this subject before... Greetings Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] hot.openstreetmap.org
FYI: opening hot.openstreetmap.org just shows the root files - should better redirect to weblog/ . (favicon.* files have 0 bytes) Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] FYI: correspondence with wikiloc
This is a correspondence I got into with Jordi from wikiloc.com --- Forwarded message --- From: "Jordi Ramot" To: "Roman Neumüller" Cc: Subject: Re: Wikiloc - User Feedback Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:34:18 +0300 Hi Roman, I cannot say ok since trails in wikiloc are creations of each user and I think it wouldn't be fair to reproduce and mix them externally without showing explicit attribution on OSM maps. I've been thinking hard in how this could be done properly and a possibility would be to let wikiloc users to set the privacy of each trail as "private", "public in wikiloc", "transferable to OSM" etc.. and perhaps even create an API that OSM could fetch all "transferable to OSM" trails automatically. I'm overwhelmed with pending features at this moment but that could definitely be considered in the future. I hope this doesn't affect your work and hope this discussion could end up in a broader collaboration in the future Jordi -- http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=Jordi wikiloc.com - Trails of the World On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Roman Neumüller wrote: > no, not on the map. > you only see the tags in editors. > it's a wiki-map we are creating and not a google overlay... > > OSM's license is Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. > > maybe one of your team should create an account and start editing > his/her home region on osm so that he/she then can tell osm > under which conditions osm users can use gpx-tracks uploaded to > wikiloc... - or tell us: no, you cannot use wikiloc-tracks. > > Roman > > > Hi Roman, these tags will be explicitly visible to OSM users when they > see >> the trails on osm maps? >> >> Sent from my pint-sized communication device >> >> On 11/05/2010, at 19:57, Roman Neumüller wrote: >> >> Hi Jordi, >>> >>> this sounds a bit odd to me... >>> I do not know which agreement you have with google - osm is not using >>> google in any way. >>> >>> Which tags should I add to a way to accomplish your attributions? >>> >>> * source=wikiloc.com >>> * source_url=http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=894235 >>> * track_author=http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=gezenkurt >>> >>> Would that be ok? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Roman >>> >>> Hi Roman, >>>> >>>> Sorry for being so slow in writing back to you on this. I've been >>>> discussing the situation and it'd be compatible with wikiloc terms >>>> only if >>>> the trails from Wikiloc shown on OSM make explicitly visible the 3 >>>> attributions ( >>>> wikiloc.com, trail page and author's page) to users of OSM. We worked >>>> hard in the agreement with Google Earth to respect this attribution >>>> requirement and you can see it if you open one of Wikiloc trails on >>>> Google >>>> Earth (you'll see clearly that the source is Wikiloc (logo, link), >>>> the trail >>>> page and the trail author's page). >>>> >>>> Hope it helps >>>> >>>> Jordi >>>> >>>>>> I [...] let you know that I added OSM as a base layer >>>>>> last Thursday. You can switch from Google Maps to OSM by clicking >>>>>> at "More Maps" button when visualizing a track in wikiloc. >>>>> Nice :) >>>>> >>>>>> Please if you use some of the GPS tracks in wikiloc to map on OSM >>>>>> include a visible attribution as specified in the terms of use of >>>>>> wikiloc: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Attribution: When content from Wikiloc is displayed on an external >>>>>> site it must include the Wikiloc's logo or name linked to >>>>>> http://www.wikiloc.com, a link to the track page (e.g. >>>>>> http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602) >>>>>> and the track author's name linked to his/her personal area at >>>>>> wikiloc.com(e.g. 'by –Ross' linked to >>>>>> http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=--Ross)" >>>>>> >>>>>> There's no requirement to be links without the rel='nofollow' as >>>>>> long as the source is clear. >>>>> >>>>> when working with ways we use tags like >>>>> >>>>>highway=primary; >>>>>ref=D-400 >>>>>name=Antalya-Mersin Yolu >>>>>source=GPS | Yahoo | landsat | survey >>>>> >>>>> We can freely use other tags like >>>>> >>>>>source_url=http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602 >>>>> >>>>> Would that be applicable? >>>>> >>>>> Greetings >>>>> Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Project of the Week 2010Mar28 - Swimming in data
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:48:16 +0300, wrote: > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:17:28 -0430 > From: Richard Weait > Subject: [OSM-talk] Project of the Week 2010Mar28 - Swimming in data > To: talk@openstreetmap.org, newb...@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Many of the coastlines in OSM came from an import of the PGS coastline > data. It was a fantastic benefit to be able to add this coastline > data to OSM, and we're better off having had it. And there are many > places that have aerial imagery that is now good enough to improve on > PGS coastlines. So that is the project of the week for 28 March, > 2010, check your favorite bit of coastline and improve what you can > with overhead imagery. > Those without a favorite bit of unimproved coastline might take a look I suggest searching the db for waterway=coastline AND (note=*rough* OR fixme=*rough*) - for example coastlines of Indonesia and Vietnam are *really* rough! Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreet Maps in Word press
Hi John, Unfortunately the osm plugin from http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/ still is not available on wordpress.com - you'll have to get your own blog... Roman > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:52:22 -0800 (PST) > From: John Yumbya > Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreet Maps in Word press > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: <104871.31525...@web113805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Ho do I have an open street map on my wordpress blog. Thanks > Sincerely yours, > John Y Mutua > __ > iMap Africa > Nairobi, Kenya > Web Blog: http://imapafrica.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 65, Issue 133
> Thanks. > Is there a way to put Refugee=Yes and Source=Google, 2010-01-17 as > values in the backend? > If someone could enter those into the backend, it would go much faster. > I know about the "r" key, but that only works, after OSM's been > loaded, and one's been created. > But with a workflow where you're loading OSM anew each time, it doesn't > work. > Really a bottleneck to have to enter these each time. Create a camp ONCE with those tags: source=Google, 2010-01-17 tourism=camp_site refugee=yes the press CTRL+SHIFT+[selct-a-number-from-1-9] At other campsites you then can select the are and press SHIFT+[select-the-number-from-1-9-chosen-above] to set the tags there Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon (lake) not rendering
I think you mean natural=water - natural=lake is undocumented ;-) I'd understand natural=lakeshore - but that's undocumented too Roman > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:07:59 + > From: ?var Arnfj?r? Bjarmason > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon (lake) not rendering > To: Peter Herison > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > <51dd1af80910240407h292c83ebjdbcd127e6e187...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Peter Herison wrote: >> Could somebody take a look at >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/300524 and why it's not >> rendering in mapnik? >> >> There are also some issues with osmarender: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=29.5216&lon=-101.0699&zoom=12&layers=0B00FTF > I've fixed it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2936060 > * You need to add natural=lake on the relation when outer is made up > of multiple ways > * Don't add tags on the inner ways. That's redundant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] zoomlevel 8 rendering
I understand (didn't check the tag:natural=water) That is one needs to add the - a bit redundant - natural=water to waterway=riverbank to get it rendered at zl>=6 Riverbank wiki entry updated accordingly... Roman > On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 08:25 +0300, Roman Neumüller wrote: >> When does zoomlevel 8 get rendered? > > Every few weeks after a full import or when started manually. It was > last done yesterday > >> River Lena for example did not update on zoomlevel 8 since 24. July! (1) >> No problem for zoomlevel 9 though (2)... > > The part which renders on zoom level 8 has natural=water & > waterway=riverbank [1] > > The part which does not render has just waterway=riverbank [2] > > The osm.xml style rules only render riverbank up to a scale of 2 > million: > > > [waterway] = 'dock' or [landuse] = 'reservoir' or > [landuse] = 'water' or [waterway] = 'mill_pond' or [waterway] = > 'riverbank' or [waterway]='canal' > 200 > > #b5d0d0 > > > > This means that they only appear at zoom >= 9. > > The natural=water renders to a scale of 10M which is zoom >= 6. > > 1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27729622 > 2: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29074703 > > > Jon > >> Roman >> >> (1) >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215&lon=128.018&zoom=8&layers=B000FTF >> (2) >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215&lon=128.018&zoom=9&layers=B000FTF > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] zoomlevel 8 rendering
When does zoomlevel 8 get rendered? River Lena for example did not update on zoomlevel 8 since 24. July! (1) No problem for zoomlevel 9 though (2)... Roman (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215&lon=128.018&zoom=8&layers=B000FTF (2) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215&lon=128.018&zoom=9&layers=B000FTF > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Sam Vekemans) >2. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish themfrom > incomplete ways (David Paleino) >3. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Iv?n S?nchez Ortega) >4. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from > incomplete ways (Dave F.) >5. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from > incomplete ways (David Earl) >6. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from > incomplete ways (Dave F.) >7. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Dave F.) >8. Re: walking-papers.org is dead? (Michal Migurski) >9. Re: Satellite for OSM (Morten Kjeldgaard) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:05:50 -0700 > From: Sam Vekemans > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office? > To: "k...@vielevisels" > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > <9dbbf3b20909260905u12c7c7cx820b3eea8928a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > Great idea, > What im working on (for Across Canada). Is actually going ahead and > filling > in those amenities that the typical town-visitor would like to see > (myself). So I will be able to, probably using KOSMOS, create a nice > map > of the town, then just donate the map to the tourist office. And they > can > make copies of it. > > What i would then do is ask the people at the tourist office, for when > they > actually draw on the map, and indicate things which are not listed, to > make > a 'working-copy', so then i can go back to the tourist office at a later > date, and show them (in person) how to edit the map. And make a new > version, and print it off. (Considering we know that most of the time > there are LOTS of things missing on other tourist maps.) :-) > > Alot of the tourist offices i have been to offer a computer with internet > access todo local searches and email. (sometimes for a fee), and some > have > wi-fi. since i use a mini-notebook, it's easy to show people on-the-fly. > > ... at least thats what i plan on doing, once this Canada Import is well > underway. .. Probably for next year. > > Have fun, > Cheers, > Sam Vekemans > Across Canada Trails > > Twitter: @Acrosscanada > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans > > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:45 AM, k...@vielevisels > wrote: > >> Hi, >> i recently travelled to a city with nearly 40.000 inhabitants and was >> surprised, that almost no hotels, restaurants and other amenities were >> in >> OSM. >> So I had the idea to contact the tourist office with a short >> introduction >> on OSM and how to tag, to give this to shops, hotels, restaurants and >> so on. >> So with no effort, all these shops can have their business in OSM. >> Did anyone try this? What do you think of the idea? >> Kai >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20090926/64e15498/attachment-0001.htm > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:30:15 +0200 > From: David Paleino > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish > themfrom incomplete ways > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: <1365500.atdphls...@home.hanskalabs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > k...@vielevisels wrote: > >> Hi, >> many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning, >> with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is >> intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this >> and to render both (dead-ends and incomplete ways), to show where work >> has >> to be done. >> >> Any comments on this? > > I agree that using noexit=no is a good thing to do. > >> PS: noexit=no is not without problems, often there are ways which start >> as >> a very good track, but end after som
[OSM-talk] good news: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org
Good news: we can use the shapefiles of wetland.org (1)! :D Roman (1) http://ramsar.wetlands.org/GISMaps/DownloadGISdatasets/tabid/769/language/en-US/Default.aspx --- Forwarded message --- From: "PECK Dwight" To: "Roman Neumüller" Cc: "stephan.fl...@wetlands.org" Subject: RE: RE: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:27:06 +0300 Greetings, many thanks for your message. As far as we are concerned, we consider all of the Ramsar site data and products, including those that Wetlands International prepares for us, to be in the public domain. We only ask that the use of any data should be dated so that users can judge the currency and accuracy. Best regards, Dwight Peck. ** Dwight Peck Communications Officer Ramsar Convention on Wetlands Gland, Switzerland p...@ramsar.org, www.ramsar.org -----Original Message- From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org] Sent: 22 September 2009 10:15 To: Ramsar Mailbox Subject: Fwd: RE: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org Hello, I contacted Stephan Flink from wetlands.org to ask if openstreetmap.org could make use of their shapefiles of Ramsar sites under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. He adviced me to ask the Ramsar Secretariat to confirm that there are no restriction to use this data (see correspondence below). Please let me know if there are any legal restrictions in using the data. Greetings Roman Neumüller --- Forwarded message --- From: "Flink, Stephan" To: "Roman Neumüller" Cc: Subject: RE: shapefile usage for openstreetmap.org Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:33 +0300 Dear Roman, I'm not aware of any legal restrictions to display the shapefiles in OSM other than the following ToU (http://ramsar.wetlands.org/Home/tabid/719/ctl/Terms/Default.aspx). As Wetlands International is the caretaker of all Ramsar Site information and the ownership of the data lies with the Ramsar Secretariat in Switzerland (ram...@ramsar.org<mailto:ram...@ramsar.org>), I suggest contacting the Secretariat to ensure that this is indeed the case. Best wishes, Stephan Flink -Original Message- From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org] Sent: vrijdag 18 september 2009 16:14 To: Flink, Stephan Subject: RFI: shapefile usage for openstreetmap.org Hello Stephan, I see that I can download shapefiles of Ramsar sites from wetlands.org. Are there any legal restrictions for conversion and usage of these shapefiles under the wiki map project http://openstreetmap.org (OSM)? OSM's content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license... Greetings Roman Neumüller No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2387 - Release Date: 09/21/09 17:55:00 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik rendering
>>> I don't know whether I have missed something, or else am just >>> lucky, but mapnik is rendering the things I am editing super-fast. >>> Two new and different renders of an area in about 30 minutes. >> >> Now the renderer is sucking up to the cartographers? >> > It's really old news, that tile.openstreetmap.org is using the > minutely diffs. > Shaun But seemingly only on zoomlevel 12 and higher numbers, right? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GPS gadgets can get you jailed and fined
In Russia they seemingly don't have no problems using GPS in planes... ;-) Ref: (1) http://gpslib.net/tracks/index.php?q=&author=&type=avia&country= (2) http://gpslib.net/ and choose 'avia' Roman > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:40:41 -0300 > From: Arlindo Pereira > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS gadgets can get you jailed and fined > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > <96ab930f0908310640s218e95d3kf034960edc85a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Wow, such a crazyness... > I tried to log a flight with my GPS-enabled cellphone (a Nokia N95), but > it didn't worked after a minute. > http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/workoutdetail/index.do?id=569496 > (forgive the google maps background, as this GPX is useless for mappingI > didn't uploaded it to OSM) > But sometimes I run into some problems using my smartphone on a plane. It > happened - twice - that the cabin crew didn't allowed me to use the > phone, > even after explaining it was on the airplane (offline) mode. > Cheers, > 2009/8/30 Laurence Penney ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Old GPS data
This doesn't make sense to me. At least there should be a timestamp of gpx-files which tells us when they've been uploaded so that one could filter them a la "show me gpx-files not older than 3 years" ! Roman > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Aleksejs Mjaliks wrote: >> Does OSM invalidates GPS data after some time? Otherwise, roads >> continuously changes and after we will have a big cloud of points that >> don't make any sense. > No, it doesn't. GPX tracks stay where they are forever and continue > being served by the GPS API. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] technical question: will nested relations get rendered?
This is a technical question - maybe it should go to talk-dev. Idea: Make a map of a river basin Example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=166216 I started to make relations for rivers using type=river - in the example it's Lena river with tributaries Vitim, Kirenga, Olyokma and Vilyuy. What I thought I could do is to create a parent relation (say type=river basin) and to only add child-relations for Lena and its tributaries. Unfortunately this didn't get rendered. Question: Is it technical possible to render nested relations (parent relation which contain only child relations)? Advantage would be that as the child relation are getting updated the parent will automatically get updated too. For now the above example contains all single river-ways of five different rivers added manually for being able to get the relation being rendered correctly. In that way it has over 100 members. Using child relations I'd only add five members... Thinking further I would actually like to add sub-basins to the Lena basin, so the tree would look like this: Lena basin Vilyuy basin Chona basin ... Kirenga basin Minya basin Khanda basin ... Vitim basin Olyokma basin ... with several nested parent-child relations... But first it needs to be renderable ;-) Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm traces and tags
I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/ * a simple search field for tags * FIXED: being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload - I forgot the "more" link for tracks * tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!) Does it 'need' to be case-sensitive? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] osm traces and tags
I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/ * a simple search field for tags * being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload * tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!) Does it 'need' to be case-sensitive? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] call for brainstorm on "relations for rivers"
Hi all, I'd like to call for a brainstorm on "relations for rivers" under [[Talk:WikiProject Rivers]]. Any hydrologist around ? ;-) Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx - maps from openstreetmap
> Hi, > what formats can I put on the micro sd card for this device to read? > So far I've managed to put a gpx file (which I converted from osm data > using JOSM), in it. > I thought it would use the gpx file as a map. Can that be done? See also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth - generates maps for Garmin GPS units using OpenStreetMap data and NASA's SRTM digital elevation model Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Roads/Rails Shapefile Import for Tanzania, Uganda, DRC, Rwanda
Who's "we" exactly? Is there a coordination place on the osm.wiki? I'd like to participate - for example caring for rivers of Eritrea... Do I have to join Africover User System first? I joined there but now I have to answer some questions before I am able to receive their data: > Before we can process your request, please provide us with more details > regarding your organisation activities, as well as a more in-depth > description of your proposed use of the Africover data. >If you intend using the data for research purposes at University,please > provide us with an official letter/email from your researchsupervisor or > your Head of Department. >If you belong to a private organisation, please refer your request > directly to the country's National Focal Point Institution > (erit...@africover.org). More detailed contact information is available > on our website. >We apologize for this inconvenience but we are not authorised to provide > private organisations with data, without prior approval from the country. Roman > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:36:20 -0400 > From: Robert Soden > Subject: [OSM-talk] Roads/Rails Shapefile Import for Tanzania, Uganda, > DRC,Rwanda > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Hello, > Over the last few months, I've been in contact with FAO's Africover > program: http://www.africover.org/ . Africover maintains shapefiles > containing rivers, roads, towns, and admin boundaries for a number of > countries that we would like add to the OSM dataset. While they > normally do not release data under an OSM-acceptable license, they have > granted us permission to add their data to Open Street Map. > Over the next few weeks, we will be working on importing data for > Tanzania, DR Congo, Uganda, and Rwanda. We'll be working slowly in > order to ensure accuracy and integrity of the OSM dataset. Please feel > free to get in touch if you are interested in learning more about our > progress, but we will also be posting status reports on the project wiki > pages. > Africover also maintains datasets for > Burundi, Egypt, Eritrea, Kenya, Somalia, and Sudan. We may work on > these over the longer-term, and would be happy to collaborate with other > folks on this. > Cheers, > Robert Soden > rob...@developmentseed.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] form input field for "GPS Traces"
I recommend to add a form input field for "GPS Traces" where a user can easily search for a tag, let's say GPS tracks for Paris. You can easily upload your tracks but you cannot easily search. I know that I can of course type a tag into the browser's address field like http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/Paris But a normal user may not know it. And: if I write it wrongly like http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/Pariss or http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/Paris I get: Application error Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:41:38 +0200, wrote: > Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the > front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a > long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it I make a quick poll (1) on which which screen resolution osm'ers are using... (1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Poll/Screen_resolution Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Large OSM "globe" style map of CycleMap coverage
I'd like to see a large OSM "globe" style map of the cycle map coverage. Additionally a large OSM "globe" style map of Yahoo hires-data (tags hires=yes, boundary=yahoo and perhaps others) would be nice... Can anyone do that? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] West African mangrove forests and PGS coastlines
I noticed the same issue on South America's eastcoast and large river mounds too... I think there's no easy solution because the color of mangrove forests and the sea are too near to one another... Using josm's lakewalker to trace sea/island there' s a "maximum gray value to count as water" one can play with... Roman > In West Africa, I have noticed that mangrove forests are often tagged as > sea > by PGS. Some examples are found at: > > Does anyoe have any idea on how to solve this without having to do manual > tracing for large parts of the coastline and riverbanks? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GroundTruth, a new mapmaking tool for Garmins - released
Well done! The first time I got a map of my region onto my Garmin ;-) The cookbook is enough to get it done... Bravo! Roman > I'm pleased to announce the first release of GroundTruth, a new tool for > creating Garmin maps using OpenStreetMap data. You can find more > information on my blog post: > http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/groundtruth-released ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki
> SteveC wrote: > > It's amazing how the wiki has grown and is really a living place with > a community around it these days, but it's showing some strain. For > example until I fixed it, it was pretty hard for someone typing > 'addressing' to find out about how to do addressing in OSM. Yes I know > it's not official yet that Karlsruhe is the 'right way'. > What do you think? By the way: one could enable $wgEnableMWSuggest in LocalSettings.php to enable suggestions while typing in search boxes (as in wikipedia)... Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] data inconsistence?
> Edit the way slightly in potlatch, it'll save the correct version to > the database. > This inconsistency sometimes occurs when the server is under high load > due to the lack of transactions in the current API. > This should be fixed in API0.6 What I really do not understand is that the data is still different now more than 12 hours later! :puzzle: Does it have to do with being member of a relation? Roman > 2009/1/22 Roman Neum?ller : >> For half an hour now I try to get another result but no: different data >> in >> two >> editors! >> >> Please open >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-23.31738&lon=-46.58105&zoom=16 >> in both editors: potlatch and JOSM. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] data inconsistence?
For half an hour now I try to get another result but no: different data in two editors! Please open http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-23.31738&lon=-46.58105&zoom=16 in both editors: potlatch and JOSM. See the motorway near the river/canal? The north-bound motorway changed to a straight line in JOSM (looking like this strange potlatch error which sometimes happens) but not in potlatch! There the ways go parallel! And be sure I've both closed browser and josm and changed browsers - when reopening: same result. Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible coastline errors in Potlatch
>> Shaun McDonald wrote: >>> http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22359503/history looks like it is >>> a 2 node way. Seems that there is a bug in Potlatch, causing it to not >>> show the coastline here. >> But the way contains the same node twice, thus is meaningless. That's >> not a >> bug in Potlatch, that's dodgy data. >I liked the circular way originally going between two points (ABA). It > got even better when B was removed. That's simply a singularity! >> /me looks for the created_by tag and walks away whistling innocently A-ha! >Ban Everything!!1! >Cheers, > Andy I occasioanlly open hires areas in JOSM when stumbling over them. Boy: what a whole bunch of errors one then starts to fix...! All potlatch-related I suppose (sorry Rich ;-) Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] namefinder problems
I just wonder what the problems with the namefinder are. Isn't it only ruby querying a database? It should not make that much problems as it should only return some text back... Is it gazetteer.openstreetmap.org which has sometimes problems? Another thing is that query results of both gazeteer *and* geonames should be shown asynchron - I mean results should not have to wait for each other but rather show up independent from each other so that which ever comes first can be already listed in the "Search Results" bar. And: are there any statistics about how often the namefinder is being used per day/week/month? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] caching of landsat/yahoo images
The JOSM plugin lakewalker has the IMHO very nice feature to cache the landsat tiles it uses for walking a lake into its own folders. I just wonder if that feature couldn't get extended to generally cache landsat images into a folder !? If you live in a region were there is no Hires-data available at all you *solely* have potlatch's flash/yahoo data or josm's landsat data to rely on. But you have to download the image data over-and-over again whenever you are in the same region. And: the same idea might apply for potlatch's flash/yahoo image data! Wouldn't it be nice to have already downloaded images cached ?!? ;-) Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] josm's validator on waterway=coastline
Working a lot with large lakes with JOSM's lakewalker I nearly always get warnings saying natural type coastline - unclosed way But for a lake (or sea) on the end of one coastline the next one starts and this continues for all coastlines building the lake. This warning should actually only show up when there is NO continuing coastline at the end of one coastline or a gap between two coastlines. Is this a validator bug? Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Broken Coastline?
Opening your link with zoom=9 instead of 14 shows lots of errors and warnings; JOSM's validator shows for example Reversed water: land not on left side (2) (101 nodes) Cockshoot Broad (12 nodes) Maybe it's that... Roman > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:27:35 +0100 > From: "Tristan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [OSM-talk] Broken Coastline? > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I've modded the coastline here: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.7145&lon=1.695&zoom=14&layers=0B00FTTT > And yet all I've done is move about 4 points in a bit, and add a > section of beach where I went for a walk. And now some of the new > tiles in osmarender seem to have gone blue... I can't see what I've > got wrong. > Can someone have a squint and see if there's something wrong? (I've > never edited a coastline before, so don't know how they work) > Thanks > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries
> Tordanik wrote: >> There has been an increasing amount of link spam on user diaries >> recently, such as these entries: >> http://openstreetmap.org/user/festivalplus/diary/3689 >> http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3686 >> http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3688 >> Is anyone working on countermeasures? >Do you have some suggestions? It's hard to see what we can do about this > sort of (presumably manual) spamming where people are prepared to go to > the trouble of registering and confirming an account beyond deleting the > accounts. >We are now logging the IP address used to create accounts so we can look > for patterns but I'm not hopeful. >Tom Good would be something like * wordpress akismet plugin, * added captcha or * if with link do it simply as in osm-wiki Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org (Roman Neumüller)
I agree with Matthias - if it was something to vote on I gave a (+) - you don't need to see the damn paypal link on a besides inputbox for searching useless sidebar when being a user who uses osm every day... And I would like to see lat/long too of course... Additionally I'd like a small inputbox to write lat/long into - it's otherwise annoyingly difficult to replace lat/long in the addressbar... ...and maybe a small crosshair just in the middle of the map-window to indicate the exact lat/long... ;-) something left? Don't know for now... Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Propo sed features/lakeshore
This is a proposal to be able to distinguish big lakes and reservoirs on
one hand from small lakes (natural=water) and sea (natural=coastline) on
the other.
There is a need to make the rendering of big lakes and reservoirs with
more than 500 nodes distinguishable from small lakes (with less than 500
nodes) and seas. Especially if working with [[JOSM]]'s [[Lakewalker]] to
create the outline of a big lake one has to choose
{{Tag|natural|coastline}} - otherwise one would have to create a
{{Tag|natural|water}} with say 20.000 nodes, (which makes loading in
either JOSM or potlatch very slow) - or one has to manually split the
20.000-node-lake into water-subparts which is not a very nice solution.
Coastline should be only applied to seas.
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