[Talk-tr] 2023 Kahramanmaraş depremleri

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar ve geçmiş olsun,

osmwiki'de  
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turkey_Earthquake_2023_in_Kahramanmaraş

sayfası açtım. Deprem ilgili bilgiler eklenirse iyi oluyor.

Yanılmıyorsam şu anda kadar kullanabilir uydu resimleri fazla yok sanırım
cünkü hava belki halen bulutlu...

Mesela https://map.openaerialmap.org/ sadece 2 resim sunuyor.

Roman


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Re: [Talk-tr] import hakkında

[Roman Neumüller]

osmviki'ye göre Corine Land Cover  kullanması onaylıyor fakat vikinin  
içeriği iyi okumak lazım.
Kullanıcı gruplarla temasa girmek lazım fakat bu mailing listesi  
yetmiyebilir - duyduğuma

göre Face'in Openstreetmap Türkiye da var...

Kolay gelsin ;)

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:01:58 +0300, ahmetlii _   
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Merhaba. Geçenlerde burada

kullanılabilecek
bir metadata olduğunu gördüm. Hem ayrıca veri sağlayıcısı şurada

erişim
konusunda limit olmadığını gördüm.Türkiye'de OpenStreetMap üzerinden elle
haritalanan yer sayısı az ve geniş alanları elle haritalamak oldukça
zahmetli. En azından Copernicus'un bahsettiğim lisanslama konusunda
problemi olmayan metaverisini kullanıp boş alanları hızlıca
haritalasak mantıklı olabilir. Zaten bu konu hakkında imports
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Re: [Talk-tr] Harita Atıf Silinmesi

[Roman Neumüller]

Bu tür siteler - onlarla irtibat olmazsa - aşağıdaki linkte eklenebilir:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 15:51:29 +0300, Yusuf ÜLKÜ   
wrote:


Selamlar aşağıda örnek bir linkini paylaştığım site birçok yerinde OSM  
kullanmakta ama atıf metnini silmiştir.


https://www.bulurum.com/advdetails/37364j_7355h2f3b0i7e602_2f3j6k6d?what=Evden%20Eve%20Nakliyat==1



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[Talk-tr] atıf göstermeyen siteler

[Roman Neumüller]

Şuna bakınız: atıf göstermeyen kaymakamlık siteler:

mesela
* http://bayburt.gov.tr/ilcelerimiz
* http://samsun.gov.tr/ilcelerimiz

Sadece Leaflet'in bağlantı görünüyor.
Her halde hepsi bir resmi yazılımı kullanıyorlar...

O konuda ne yapabiliriz ?

slm

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Re: [Talk-tr] openstreetmap CN domain and keyword

[Roman Neumüller]

Bu CN domain konulu mesaj büyük olasılıkla SCAM'dir ve silinir -
Çinlilerin domain sorunları bize ne yani ?

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:59:53 +0300, Jeff Liu   
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(It's very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. Thanks)
This is a formal email. We are the Domain Registration Service company  
in China. Here I have something to confirm with you. On Dec 17, 2019, we  
received an application from Kanghong Ltd requested "openstreetmap" as  
their internet keyword and China (CN) domain names (openstreetmap.cn,  
openstreetmap.com.cn, openstreetmap.net.cn, openstreetmap.org.cn). But  
after checking it, we find this name conflict with your company name or  
trademark. In order to deal with this matter better, it's necessary to  
send email to you and confirm whether this company is your distributor  
or business partner in China?


Best Regards
***
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[Talk-tr] D300 / D-300 / D.300 ?

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar,

Forumda devlet yolların ref etiketi ilgili bir soru çıktı: D300 mü, D-300  
mü, D.300 mü ?

(ref: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=67371 )

Levhaların fotoları internette aradığımda sonuçları bile karışık...

slm

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[Talk-tr] Mahallelerin sınırları admin_level 8 mi 10 mu?

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhaba haritadaşlar,

Aşağıdaki değişiklik seti yorumlayabilen varsa sevinirim ;)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/58806903

slm

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Re: [Talk-tr] Yavuz sultan selim koprusu

[Roman Neumüller]

O mesele sanki OSMR'e ait - mapzen
https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=mapzen_car=41.2210%2C28.8391%3B41.1590%2C29.2552#map=11/41.1978/29.0540

ve graphhopper

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=graphhopper_car=41.2210%2C28.8391%3B41.1528%2C29.3026

ikisi çalışıyor - tek osrm

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_car=41.2210%2C28.8391%3B41.1528%2C29.3026#map=11/41.1544/29.0671

dediğin gibi Yavuz Sultan Selim Köprüsü beğenmiyor / görmüyor ;)

Roman

On Fri, 01 Sep 2017 19:31:31 +0300, Yusuf Umac  wrote:

Yavuz sultan selim koprusu kullanilarak avrupa yakasindan anadolu  
yakasina

ve ayni sekilde anadolu'dan da avrupa yakasina gecis yapilamiyor.
Bildiginiz uzere kamyon ve otobusler diger kopruleri kullanamiyorlar.
Hatanin nereden kaynaklandigini bulabilmek icin asagidaki durumlari test
edebiliriz.

https://router.project-osrm.org/route/v1/driving/29.140854477882385,41.19784179879946;29.139052033424377,41.197668233317806?overview=false=true=true=
;

http://map.project-osrm.org/?z=18=41.197785%2C29.142185=41.197842%2C29.140854=41.197668%2C29.139052=en=0

Iyi bayramlar dilerim.


On September 1, 2017 at 6:04:41 PM, Orkut Murat YILMAZ (
orkutmuratyil...@gmail.com) wrote:

Problemi daha net anlatmanız mümkün müdür Yusuf Hocam?

2017-08-31 19:57 GMT+03:00 Yusuf Umac :


Selamlar,

Yavuz sultan koprusu ile ilgili yollarda verisel baglanti problemleri
oldugunu dusunuyorum. Cozum konusunda cok deneyimli degilim. Yardim
edebilecek kimse olur mu?

Tsk.
Yusuf


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Re: [Talk-tr] Talk-tr Digest, Vol 75, Issue 2

[Roman Neumüller]

Sağol Mert!

I think the translation of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place
into Turkish would be quite helpful for beginners. Or a subpage of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Turkey describing the
place categorization in Turkey...

On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 04:32:36 +0300, Mert Emin Kalender  
<merteminkalen...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks Jeff for bringing this into our attention and Roman for looking  
into this. I think OSM in Turkey is still growing (rather slowly) and  
needs some more attention. As Roman mentioned, there is a group on  
Facebook where
people from Turkey discuss OSM, but it is rather casual and some members  
do not speak English. I am an active OSM member mapping in and outside of

Turkey. I am also leading efforts to translate iD to Turkish and OSM wiki
into Turkish.

I've done a quick research on administrative unit system in Turkey. The
document that could be used to model place classification is available  
here <https://www.csb.gov.tr/db/cbs/editordosya/Idari_Birim.pdf>. Turkish

administrative system is sort of messy and complicated. I think it is
important to have a discussion about place type classifications.

From
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Administratively_declared_places
perspective, the following mapping sounds reasonable to me:
- place=country => ülke
- place=state => not applicable
- place=region => bölge
- place=province => il
- place=district => semt/ilçe - I think semt is a name used for "ilçe"  
when
"ilçe" is part of the city center's administrative boundary. The  
following

image has districts of İstanbul -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_Turkey#/media/File:Istanbul_location_districts.svg
Semt
vs ilçe don't seem any different. But look at the districts of Eskişehir  
-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_Turkey#/media/File:Eski%C5%9Fehir_districts.png
Tepebaşı and Odunpazarı forms the city Eskişehir (marked with black
border). These "semt"s are combined together under "büyükşehir  
belediyesi".

Look at Afyonkarahisar -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_Turkey#/media/File:Afyonkarahisar_districts.png
In this case city center only has one "semt/ilçe", which is  
"Afyonkarahisar

merkezi". They are referred as "merkez ilçe".
- place=county => I don't think this type really applies to Turkey.
- place=municipality => This could be another source of confusion. We've
had recent updates to town smaller than "ilçe", but bigger than "köy".  
This

type could be mapped to "belde" I think.

Regarding
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Populated_settlements.2C_urban
- place=city => il, şehir, even bigger metropolitan cities are could be
mapped to this type.
- place=borough => I don't think this is really applicable.
- place=suburb => Again this could be used for "'ilçe" and "semt".
- place=quarter => Similar to borough, I don't think this is really
applicable.
- place=neighbourhood => This is mahalle. Within "semt/ilçe" we have
neighbourhoods.
- place=city_block => Doesn't really apply to Turkey.

Looking at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place#Populated_settlements.2C_urban_and_rural
I can easily tell that Turkish place/administrative unit system doesn't
really fit into here. Let's look at Afyonkarahisar district map again -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_districts_in_Turkey#/media/File:Afyonkarahisar_districts.png
I am from Emirdağ. It could be referred as town and district as well. My
town has neighborhoods just like districts have. The municipality system  
is

same as districts. So I think we can classify them as town and also
district.
- place=town => ilçe, but rural ilçe. "Belde"s are towns that belong to
another town, but bigger than a village.
- place=village => köy (doesn't have municipality, but rather part of a
ilçe, just like belde)
- place=hamlet => mezra/mahalle (be aware the use of mahalle here)
- place=isolated_dwelling => could be mezra/mahalle I think.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Istanbul neighborhood classifications (Jeff Haack)
   2. Re: Istanbul neighborhood classifications (Roman Neumüller)


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Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:42:29 +0300
From: Jeff Haack <jeff.ha...@hotosm.org>
To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-tr] Istanbul neighborhood classifications
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Re: [Talk-tr] Istanbul neighborhood classifications

[Roman Neumüller]

Hi Jeff,

I've been mapping a lot in Turkey but can only tell for sure that

* il = province (admin_level=4)
* ilçe = town = district = district center (admin_level=6)
* köy = village (admin_level=8)

Concerning suburb/neighborhood (mahalle/semt) I'm still unsure and up to  
now

didn't get ANY response from the Turkish community regarding classification
(see  
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/2014-November/000362.html)


The community is not very active in the mailinglist - they may be more  
active in

a facebook group (I don't use fb)

  https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMapTurkey/

Semt seems as if only being used in big cities - wikipedia calls them  
"quarters":


* https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Türkiye'deki_semtler
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Quarters_in_Turkey

Even villages may have 1) suburbs which I give the neighborhood tag and 2)  
"mezra"s

where I use hamlet.

Yayla vary from location (no house at all) over hamlet (some houses) to  
suburb/village

(if big like a village)

Wikipedia says yayla = Plateau - in German I'd rather call them "Alm".

Bucak is sort of deprecated  
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucak_(administrative_unit))


Another thing is that most villages in metropolitan municipalities have  
been converted

to suburbs (6360 Metropolıtan Law) after 2012

http://econpapers.repec.org/article/scn000raj/383.htm

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:42:29 +0300, Jeff Haack   
wrote:



Hi OSMers,

I'm trying to understand the placename classifications in Istanbul and  
how those relate to OSM tags, and hoping someone can help.  In Istanbul  
there
are ilçe (districts) and mahalle (neighborhoods).  But then there are  
also semtler - what is the difference between mahalle and semtler?


Also I'm wondering about how to tag places.  From the OSM wiki it seems
that districts should be place=suburb and mahalle should be
place=neighborhood, but on the map the districts are usually place=town  
and mahalle/semtleri are either place=suburb or place=neighborhood.  Is  
there

any reason for tagging ilçe as place=town?

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to formalize the tags?

Cheers,
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[Talk-tr] TR-GR sınırı

[Roman Neumüller]

Adam dün yeni üye olmuş ve ilk yaptığı iş Türkiye-Yunanistan sınırları  
kurçaladı:


https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/OSMANcoşkun/history

Benim şu anda vaktım yok - birisi lütfen kontrol edebilir mi ?

slm
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[OSM-talk] Mediawiki OSMgadget to pull in OSM data

[Roman Neumüller]

For those who also edit in wikipedia: there's an interesting OSMgadget in  
development, see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Bjohas/OSMgadget


Roman


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[Talk-tr] OSM artık DigitalGlobe uydu görüntüleri kullanabilir

[Roman Neumüller]

OSM artık DigitalGlobe uydu görüntüleri kullanabilir!

JOSM'un ayarlarından WMS bölümü aç ve DigitalGlobe Standard ekleyiniz.
iD veya Potlatch2 kullanarak ds seçilebilir...

slm

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[Talk-tr] Son Dakika Haberi

[Roman Neumüller]

https://blogs.bing.com/maps/2017-05/3-67-million-square-km-of-new-imagery-for-turkey-greece-and-argentina

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[Talk-tr] Hotosm Türkiye

[Roman Neumüller]

Hotosm Türkiye temsilcisi arıyor, ilgilenebilecek birileri varmı acaba?

Country Manager (Turkey) - Open Mapping for Refugees
Application deadline:
Friday, March 17, 2017

Ayrıntılı bilgi:

https://hotosm.org/job/country_manager_turkey_open_mapping_for_refugees/2017

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Re: [Talk-tr] Fw: [Bilgi] Linux Kullanıcıları Derneği Contact: openstreetmap.org.tr

[Roman Neumüller]

Geç ya! Millet mailing listelerinden nefret eder - facebook kullanır!
:D

* OSM Türkiye Facebook grubu:  
https://www.facebook.com/groups/316681995197573
* OSM Türkiye Facebook sayfası:  
https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMapTurkey

(çoğu zaman ingilizce yazıyor ama...)

Tek ben facebook'tan nefret ettiğim için kullanamam... ;)

On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 02:06:42 +0300, Nebi  wrote:


Merhaba Mert,

MailingteKatıldığım zamandan beri (bir yıl?) çok az email gördüm. Bence  
daha etkinlik olursa, gayet olurdu. Fikirleriniz destekleniyorum.


İstambul'dan,
Nebi


On Thu, JaE 26, 2017 at 10:28:05AM +0300, Doruk Fisek wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:51:42 +0200
From: Mert Kalender 
To: bi...@liste.linux.org.tr
Subject: [Bilgi] Linux Kullanıcıları Derneği Contact:
openstreetmap.org.tr

Merhaba,

Ben Mert. ABD'de yaşayan bir yazılımcıyım. Harita alanında
işler üzerine çalışıyorum, özellikle de açık kaynaklı harita
OpenStreetMap. OpenStreetMap'in Türkiye'de yaygınlaşmasını
artırmak isteyen bir gruba öncülük ediyorum. OpenStreetMap
üzerine bir dernek kurmayı planlıyoruz. Kurulum aşamasında son
adıma geldik.

Amacımız videolar, eğitimler hazırlayarak toplumda açık
kaynaklı harita konusunda bir farkındalık oluşturmak. En önemlisi
de açık kaynaklı haritaya katkıyı artırmak istiyoruz.

www.openstreetmap.org.tr adresinin derneğinize kayıtlı olduğunu
gördüm. İsim hakkını OpenStreetMap alanındaki çalışmalarda
kullanmak istiyoruz. Bu konuda ortak bir çalışma yürütebilir
miyiz diye merak ediyorum.

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Re: [Talk-tr] Disa aktarilan dosya

[Roman Neumüller]

* Dosya nasıl oluşturuldu?
* Dosyanın uzantısı ne?
* Hangi program/websayfa kullanıldı?

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:43:17 +0300, Sezai YAZICI   
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Merhaba,
Dışa Aktarılan dosyayı açamıyorum.
Ne yapmam gerekir?
Yardımlarınız için şimdiden çok teşekkür ederim.
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[Talk-tr] mapyear.org

[Roman Neumüller]

Tesadüfen gördüm mapyear.org - osm katılıyor mu oralarda?

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Re: [Talk-tr] yellowpages.com.tr

[Roman Neumüller]

imports mailing listesinin list admin (iandees) diyor ki Yusuf o listenin  
üyesi değildir.


On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:31:07 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com>  
wrote:



İngilizce gönderdim

7 Şub 2016 1:14 ÖS tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org> yazdı:


hm - ingilizce olarak gönderseyidin cevabı belki daha hizli gelirdi ;)
Düzgün şeklinde çevirebilen birisi varsa belki bir daha gönderebiliriz.
Gene de IRC'te import sorumlusunu soracağım...

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:58:22 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:


> Arkadaşlar merhaba,
>
> Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak müşterimiz olan firmaların (binlerce)>  
lokasyonunu OSM'ye de eklemek istiyoruz ama bunu manuel olarak girmek>  
mümkün değil bizim için.  Eğer ki toplu olarak girebileceğimiz bir>  
arayüz ya da dosya formatı varsa olabilir.  Örn: Excel,  Json ya da XML 
> formatında.

>
> Bu şekilde data girişi yapabilirsek Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak data>  
sağladığımız platformlar arasına Google,  Apple,  Yandex ve HERE'dan>  
sonra OpenStreetMap'i de eklemeyi düşünüyoruz.

>
> 7 Şub 2016 12:47 ÖS tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org>>  
yazdı:

>>
>> Artı gönderdiğin emaili bu mail listesine gönderebilir misin?
>>
>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:34:15 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü  
<yusufulk...@hotmail.com>

>> wrote:
>>
>> > impo...@openstreetmap.org ve imports...@openstreetmap.org
>> >
>> > Adreslerine gönderdim
>> >
>> > 7 Şub 2016 7:03 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org> 
>> yazdı:

>> >>
>> >> * Emaili ne zaman ve kimine attın?
>> >> * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines sayfasında  
ki

>> >> önerdiği yolu
>> >> izlendi mi?
>> >> * https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/ son aylarda>> 
>> herhangi

>> >> bir mail göremiyorum...
>> >>
>> >> Bazı sorunlar IRC kullanarak daha hizli öğrenilir:
>> >> http://irc.openstreetmap.org/
>> >>
>> >> ;)
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 12:27:19 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü>>  
<yusufulk...@hotmail.com>

>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak OSM'ye müşterimiz olan 15 binin>>  
üzerinde>>> firmanın POI datasını eklemek istiyoruz fakat bu manuel>>  
olarak mümkün>>> değil.  OSM'ye toplu ekleme ile alakalı mail attım ama 
>> henüz bir cevap>>> gelmedi.

>> >> >
>> >> > Toplu firma bilgisi ekleme konusunda yardımcı olabilecek birisi 
>> varsa

>> >> > yardımcı olmasını rica ederim.
>> >> >
>> >> > 5 Şub 2016 11:45 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller>>  
<em...@katpatuka.org>>>> yazdı:

>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bu arada türkiyenin en büyük firmaları rehberi olan>>>>  
yellowpages.com.tr

>> >> >> sitesinde artık atıf vererek osm kullanılıyor! Aferin! :D
>> >> >>
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Re: [Talk-tr] yellowpages.com.tr

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hm - ingilizce olarak gönderseyidin cevabı belki daha hizli gelirdi ;)
Düzgün şeklinde çevirebilen birisi varsa belki bir daha gönderebiliriz.
Gene de IRC'te import sorumlusunu soracağım...

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:58:22 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com>  
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Arkadaşlar merhaba,

Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak müşterimiz olan firmaların (binlerce)  
lokasyonunu OSM'ye de eklemek istiyoruz ama bunu manuel olarak girmek  
mümkün değil bizim için.  Eğer ki toplu olarak girebileceğimiz bir  
arayüz ya da dosya formatı varsa olabilir.  Örn: Excel,  Json ya da XML  
formatında.


Bu şekilde data girişi yapabilirsek Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak data  
sağladığımız platformlar arasına Google,  Apple,  Yandex ve HERE'dan  
sonra OpenStreetMap'i de eklemeyi düşünüyoruz.


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yazdı:


Artı gönderdiğin emaili bu mail listesine gönderebilir misin?

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:34:15 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:


> impo...@openstreetmap.org ve imports...@openstreetmap.org
>
> Adreslerine gönderdim
>
> 7 Şub 2016 7:03 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org>  
yazdı:

>>
>> * Emaili ne zaman ve kimine attın?
>> * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines sayfasında ki
>> önerdiği yolu
>> izlendi mi?
>> * https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/ son aylarda>>  
herhangi

>> bir mail göremiyorum...
>>
>> Bazı sorunlar IRC kullanarak daha hizli öğrenilir:
>> http://irc.openstreetmap.org/
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 12:27:19 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü  
<yusufulk...@hotmail.com>

>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak OSM'ye müşterimiz olan 15 binin  
üzerinde>>> firmanın POI datasını eklemek istiyoruz fakat bu manuel  
olarak mümkün>>> değil.  OSM'ye toplu ekleme ile alakalı mail attım ama  
henüz bir cevap>>> gelmedi.

>> >
>> > Toplu firma bilgisi ekleme konusunda yardımcı olabilecek birisi  
varsa

>> > yardımcı olmasını rica ederim.
>> >
>> > 5 Şub 2016 11:45 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller  
<em...@katpatuka.org>>>> yazdı:

>> >>
>> >> Bu arada türkiyenin en büyük firmaları rehberi olan>>  
yellowpages.com.tr

>> >> sitesinde artık atıf vererek osm kullanılıyor! Aferin! :D
>> >>
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>> >> Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org
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Re: [Talk-tr] yellowpages.com.tr

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Artı gönderdiğin emaili bu mail listesine gönderebilir misin?

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:34:15 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com>  
wrote:



impo...@openstreetmap.org ve imports...@openstreetmap.org

Adreslerine gönderdim

7 Şub 2016 7:03 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org> yazdı:


* Emaili ne zaman ve kimine attın?
* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines sayfasında ki 
önerdiği yolu

izlendi mi?
* https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/ son aylarda  
herhangi

bir mail göremiyorum...

Bazı sorunlar IRC kullanarak daha hizli öğrenilir:
http://irc.openstreetmap.org/

;)

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wrote:

> Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak OSM'ye müşterimiz olan 15 binin üzerinde>  
firmanın POI datasını eklemek istiyoruz fakat bu manuel olarak mümkün>  
değil.  OSM'ye toplu ekleme ile alakalı mail attım ama henüz bir cevap>  
gelmedi.

>
> Toplu firma bilgisi ekleme konusunda yardımcı olabilecek birisi varsa 
> yardımcı olmasını rica ederim.

>
> 5 Şub 2016 11:45 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org>>  
yazdı:

>>
>> Bu arada türkiyenin en büyük firmaları rehberi olan  
yellowpages.com.tr

>> sitesinde artık atıf vererek osm kullanılıyor! Aferin! :D
>>
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Re: [Talk-tr] yellowpages.com.tr

[Roman Neumüller]

sordum - imports mailing listesinde üye misin?
Üye olmadan emaillerine bakmazlar...

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:58:22 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com>  
wrote:



Arkadaşlar merhaba,

Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak müşterimiz olan firmaların (binlerce)  
lokasyonunu OSM'ye de eklemek istiyoruz ama bunu manuel olarak girmek  
mümkün değil bizim için.  Eğer ki toplu olarak girebileceğimiz bir  
arayüz ya da dosya formatı varsa olabilir.  Örn: Excel,  Json ya da XML  
formatında.


Bu şekilde data girişi yapabilirsek Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak data  
sağladığımız platformlar arasına Google,  Apple,  Yandex ve HERE'dan  
sonra OpenStreetMap'i de eklemeyi düşünüyoruz.


7 Şub 2016 12:47 ÖS tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org>  
yazdı:


Artı gönderdiğin emaili bu mail listesine gönderebilir misin?

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:34:15 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü <yusufulk...@hotmail.com> 
wrote:


> impo...@openstreetmap.org ve imports...@openstreetmap.org
>
> Adreslerine gönderdim
>
> 7 Şub 2016 7:03 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller <em...@katpatuka.org>  
yazdı:

>>
>> * Emaili ne zaman ve kimine attın?
>> * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines sayfasında ki
>> önerdiği yolu
>> izlendi mi?
>> * https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/ son aylarda>>  
herhangi

>> bir mail göremiyorum...
>>
>> Bazı sorunlar IRC kullanarak daha hizli öğrenilir:
>> http://irc.openstreetmap.org/
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> On Fri, 05 Feb 2016 12:27:19 +0200, Yusuf Ülkü  
<yusufulk...@hotmail.com>

>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yellow Pages Türkiye olarak OSM'ye müşterimiz olan 15 binin  
üzerinde>>> firmanın POI datasını eklemek istiyoruz fakat bu manuel  
olarak mümkün>>> değil.  OSM'ye toplu ekleme ile alakalı mail attım ama  
henüz bir cevap>>> gelmedi.

>> >
>> > Toplu firma bilgisi ekleme konusunda yardımcı olabilecek birisi  
varsa

>> > yardımcı olmasını rica ederim.
>> >
>> > 5 Şub 2016 11:45 ÖÖ tarihinde Roman Neumüller  
<em...@katpatuka.org>>>> yazdı:

>> >>
>> >> Bu arada türkiyenin en büyük firmaları rehberi olan>>  
yellowpages.com.tr

>> >> sitesinde artık atıf vererek osm kullanılıyor! Aferin! :D
>> >>
>> >> ___
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>> >> Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org
>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr
>>
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[Talk-tr] yellowpages.com.tr

[Roman Neumüller]

Bu arada türkiyenin en büyük firmaları rehberi olan yellowpages.com.tr  
sitesinde artık atıf vererek osm kullanılıyor! Aferin! :D


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Re: [Talk-tr] Yaylalar nasıl etiketlenir?

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhaba Özgür,

Ben yaylaları bu şeklinde etiket veriyorum:

name=yayla
place=hamlet
turkey_class=yayla

turkey_class özel oluşturdum cünkü Türkiye'ye ait birkaç özel
yerleşim birimleri var; (diğer iki ise turkey_class=belde ve mezra)
Türkiye'de ki turkey_class=yayla durumu bu linkte görünür:

  http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/baT

Toprak yolları gelince bende çoğu zaman highway=track kullanıyorum;
4 tekerlekli araç geçemezse highway=path.

Yürüyüşçüler sac_scale etiketi kullanarak daha ayrıntılı bilgi veriyor -  
o
konuda vikide bilgi bulunur:  
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale


Bisikletciler ise mtb:scale kullanarak daha ayrıntılı bilgi veriyor:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale

(o iki sayfanın türkçesi henüz yok - her zaman gibi!)

Yaylaları gösteren ayrıntılı haritalar yok gibi Türkiye'de!

Kolay gelsin ve iyi geziler!
;)

Roman (katpatuka@osm)

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 10:05:46 +0300, Ozgur GOKALP ozgurgok...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Merhaba. Bu günlerde güneybatı coğrafyasıyla uğraşıyorum. Esas olarak çok
fazla bilinmeyen yayla yolları ve yaylalara odaklandım. Kendim dağ
yollarında bisiklet sürmeyi pek sevdiğimden bu yollara odaklandım. Rota
planlaması için çok iyi oluyor. Neyse lafı fazla uzatmadan sorayım; bu
yolları takip ettiğimde gördüğüm yaylaları nasıl işaretleyeceğim yani
etiketi ne olacak. Yayla diye bir etiket yok. Kendimce ya farmland olarak
işaretliyorum ya da alan seçip adına yayla diyorum. Bir de bu yollar  
genel olarak toprak fakat bazı yerleri ancak traktörle geçilebilir. Tabi  
dağ

bisikletiyle de. Ayrıca hangi bölümlerin tam olarak böyle olduğu uydudan
net olarak belli olmuyor. Ben bu yolların tamamını toprak yol olarak
işeretliyorum. Çok incelirse ya da bozukluğu belli olursa da patika
diyorum. Doğru mu yapıyorum?


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Re: [Talk-tr] tarim.gov.tr'nin köy veritabanı

[Roman Neumüller]

nasıl yapılır OGM'den öğrensinler ;)

http://www.ogm.gov.tr/Sayfalar/OzelAgaclandirma-Harita.aspx

slm
Roman

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 21:58:52 +0300, yusuf ülkü yusufulk...@hotmail.com  
wrote:



Uyaralım adam olsunlar.


Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:23:22 +0300
To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org
From: em...@katpatuka.org
Subject: [Talk-tr] tarim.gov.tr'nin köy veritabanı

merhabalar,

tarim.gov.tr deki Köy Veritabanı'nda (1) iki osm katman bulunmaktadır :)
fakat her zaman gibi osm'un kaynak gösteremiyorlar :|

slm
Roman

(1) http://kvt.tarim.gov.tr/kvt/

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[Talk-tr] openstreetmap.org.tr

[Roman Neumüller]

merhabalar,

openstreetmap.org.tr çıkmıyor artık...
Fakat domain adı 2019-05-30 kadar geçerli...

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[Talk-tr] SOTM TR

[Roman Neumüller]

http://openstreetmap.us/2015/04/at-united-nations/ okuyunca acaba ne zaman  
bir SOTM TR olacak diye derin düşüncelere dalıyorum...


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[Talk-tr] osm-nokta-sıklığı

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IRC'tan osm nokta sıklığı gösteren ilginç bir link:

https://tyrasd.github.io/osm-node-density/

:)

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[Talk-tr] routing artık etkinleştirildi osm'de

[Roman Neumüller]

routing artık etkinleştirildi osm'de
sayfayı CTRL+F5 ile güncelleyin...

Roman

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Re: [Talk-tr] TCDD YHT ve OSM

[Roman Neumüller]

vay be!
Aferin TCDD!
Tek eksik olan şey gerçekten Atfetmesi...

#osm irc kanalında konu açınca birisi dedi ki:

I don't think they want to hide attribution per-se. Just contacting them  
might be enough


O zaman kim iletişime girecek bakalım... ;-)

Roman

On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:25:30 +0200, Egemen Metin Turan emtu...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Merhabalar,

Geçen gün Yüksek Hızlı Tren ile Ankara-Eskişehir arasında seyahat ederken
monitörlerde pozisyon gösterilen haritalar dikkatimi çekti. İncelediğimde
ise OSM haritaları olduğunu düşündüm. Ancak herhangi bir yerde OSM'den
bahsedilmiyor. Lisansın Attribution zorunluluğu unutulmuş gibi.

Siz ne düşünürsünüz?

Sevgi ve saygılarımla,

Egemen Metin Turan



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Re: [Talk-tr] Haftalık osm

[Roman Neumüller]

Bunun Türkçesi kim hayırlayor? Translate Google mu??

Yani Missing Maps Project “Kaybolan Haritalar Projesi” olur mu?
Kaybolmasınlar diyorum!
;-)

On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:39:06 +0200, Madalina Ionescu  
madalinaionesc...@gmail.com wrote:



Merhaba!

Haftalık osm haberleri ve 221.baskı artık çevrim içi olarak görmek  
mümkün.

Tüm dünyadaki olaylar #openstreetmap ve #osm world ile ilgili özetler bu
sitede http://www.weeklyosm.eu/tr/archives/401.



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[Talk-tr] osm tanıtıcı güzel bir videonun çevirme imkanı var mı?

[Roman Neumüller]

Kullanıcı Nesim bana şunu önerdi:

openstreetmap ile ilgili youtube de tanıtıcı güzel bir video izlemiştim,  
görsel olarak güzel hazırlanmış ancak konuşma yabancı dilde. Ancak bu  
videoyu Türkçeye çevirecek ve seslendirecek bir tanıdığınız varmı, OSM  
yi Türkiye de tanıtma adına güzel bir video olacağını sanıyorum.


Aralarımızda bunu yapabilecek birisi var mı acaba?

slm
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Re: [Talk-tr] osm tanıtıcı güzel bir videonun çevirme imkanı var mı?

[Roman Neumüller]

linki unuttum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeG49DxMsvw

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:29:34 +0200, Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org  
wrote:



Kullanıcı Nesim bana şunu önerdi:

openstreetmap ile ilgili youtube de tanıtıcı güzel bir video  
izlemiştim, görsel olarak güzel hazırlanmış ancak konuşma yabancı  
dilde. Ancak bu videoyu Türkçeye çevirecek ve seslendirecek bir  
tanıdığınız varmı, OSM yi Türkiye de tanıtma adına güzel bir video  
olacağını sanıyorum.


Aralarımızda bunu yapabilecek birisi var mı acaba?

slm
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[Talk-tr] yerbilimleri.mta.gov.tr ve OSM

[Roman Neumüller]

http://yerbilimleri.mta.gov.tr/anasayfa.aspx sitesinde OSM katmanları  
eklemişler ;-)


slm
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[OSM-talk] gpsbabel and osm (.osm.cc file)

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Hi folks,

Recently I noticed that gpsbabel still uses version='0.5' string in its  
osm.cc (1).
Latest josm for example complains now when it does not find version='0.6'  
string.

I told gpsbabel about it in their mailing list (2).
Today I got a reply (3):

We don't really use the OSM API; we just read and write OSM XML files. 
The doc you cite doesn't appear to be relevant to our use.


If 0.5 and 0.6 are different in some incompatible way, we need  
informationon what to change, sample files, etc. I don't think we  
haveany active OSMusers on our lists, so if you're interested in making  
this
better, you can advance things. If it's been broken since 2009 and you're 
the first to notice, we should probably drop it as it's received only 
mechanical changes since 2008. The first step will be to identify the  
needed changes.
If you're ready to tackle it, the OSM code is a little grubby, but you  
can see it at

https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc


I wrote back


Well, all programs using .osm files understand version='0.6' now but
some programs (like well-known josm) complain now when trying to
open a file with version='0.5' string.


and reply on that

I just committed the change, but I've A) marked OSM for deprecationsince  
you're apparently the only one that's used it in five yeras andB) find  
gratuitous, pointlessly incompatible changes silly.


I use gpsbabel not very often and don't know about other osm users but
there might be some .cc developpers which might want to check their code  
(1).


greetings
Roman

(1) https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc
(2) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32426224/
(3) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32434559/

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[Talk-tr] mapbox uydu resimleri

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar,
Bilmem belki haberiniz zaten var:

Bazı bölgelerin bing uydu resimleri henüz yokken onun yerinde Mapbox  
Satellite (1) kullanabilirsiniz.


Zoomlevel (yakınlaştırma) fazla derin değil ve çoğu zaman siyah beyaz  
fakat mapbox'un alan kapsamı sanki bing'den geniş.


iD için katman bölümünde seçilir;
potlatch (P2) için Background menüsünde seçilir
josm ise WMS menüsünde Mapbox Satellite eklenilir;

(1) https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Maps#MapBoxSatellite

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[Talk-tr] samiyilmaz

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar,

Sami (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samiyilmaz) herhalde bir şeyler  
yanlış anlamış: açtığı notları bakarsanız anlarsınız:


http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/samiyilmaz/notes

slm

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[Talk-tr] Türkiye openstreetmap' e ait aktif bir facebook adresi varmı?

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar,

Kullanıcı nesim bana şu soru soruyor:


Türkiye openstreetmap' e ait aktif bir facebook adresi varmı?


Feys kullanmadığım için cevaplayamadım...

Var mı?

Roman



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Re: [Talk-tr] yolları birleştirmek

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhaba Emre

iD kullanırken CTRL tuşu basarak iki yol seçiyorsun, sonra 'C'-tuşu ile
birleştirebilirsin (ekranında '+' simgesi de etkili olup orada da  
basabilirsin).

İki yolların etiketleri aynı ise hiç mesele olmayacak; farklı ise daha
dikkatlı olması lazım...

iD kısa tuş imkanları için bu sayfaya bakabilirsin:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ID/Shortcuts

Roman


merhabalar, osm'de bir türlü beceremediğim bir şey var:

diyelim ki bir cadde var, bu cadde bir kavşağa geliyor. bu cadde osm'de
kavşaktan öncesi ve sonrası olmak üzere iki parçaya ayrılmış, halbuki bu
iki parça da aynı cadde, bu iki parçayı nasıl tek bir parça haline
getirebilirim?

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[Talk-tr] Ankara

[Roman Neumüller]

Bu arada Ankara sapsarı olmuş: http://osm.org/go/x2pzhIr
şu hint kökenli kullanıcılar sanırım bütün yolları tertiary olarak
ayarlamışlar... residential sevmemişler...

Ankara'lılar haydi iş başına ;-)

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Re: [Talk-tr] yolları birleştirmek

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caddenin birleştirmesi aslında gerekmiyor - parça parça da olabilir
tek adı olsun diye bir relation kullanabilir da fakat o da fazla
oluyor. Gönderdiğin resimdeki Kıvrımlı Caddesinin sanki bir bölüm  
tertiary
(sarı) bir bölüm secondary (portakal rengi) gibi görünüyor - tek adı  
olsun
diye bir relation oluşturulup tek etiket name=Kıvrımlı Caddesi ve  
caddenin

parçaları eklenecek.

Roman


merhabalar, osm'de bir türlü beceremediğim bir şey var:

diyelim ki bir cadde var, bu cadde bir kavşağa geliyor. bu cadde osm'de
kavşaktan öncesi ve sonrası olmak üzere iki parçaya ayrılmış, halbuki bu
iki parça da aynı cadde, bu iki parçayı nasıl tek bir parça haline
getirebilirim? örnek bir durum aşağıdaki gibi:
[image: Satır içi resim 1]

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Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

[Roman Neumüller]

Did you contact Mr Ulgen?
Because pnorman could not wait and eagerly started to redact on 18th of  
April...


Roman


I could not find that document but I found that the gazetteer Roman used
was prepared as part of a UN Group Of Experts on Geographical Names
(UNGEGN) program trying to achieve standardization of geographical names.
Mr. Ulgen will most probably have valuable information on the use of  
those

gazetteers, given his involvement in the UN, and I don't think the use of
the gazetteer would be limited.
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Re: [Talk-tr] son zamanlarda ki büyükşehir düzeltmeleri...

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Kocaeli'nin oralarda biraz inceledim - sanırım baya iş olacak:
dublicate nodes çok, yolları doğru bağlanmamış... sanki acemiler
dört 'hintli'ye mesaj attım - cevabı yok!

Roman

On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 07:57:02 +0300, Hakan Tandoğan ha...@gurkensalat.com  
wrote:


Düzeltme derken... Hakikaten anlamlı bir şekilde yol falan eklenmektemi  
yoksa isimlerimi değiştiriyorlar?


Misal bir bölge verebilirsen değişiklikleri görmek isterdim..

Hoşçakal,
Hakan


Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org wrote:


Fark ettiniz mi bilmem ama birkaç haftadan beri - daha doğrusu 18
Şubat'tan itibaren - çoğu sanki hint isimli kullanıcılar tarafından
Türkiye'nin büyükşehirleri düzeltilmektedir... tuhaf değil mi?

slm
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Re: [Talk-tr] acemi kontrolu

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Çorlu şehir içi josm editörü (1) ile baktığımda herhangi bir hata çıkmadı -
tek bir tane boş nokta çıktı (2) (unconnected node without tags)...
;-)

(1) http://josm.openstreetmap.de/
(2) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2254391939

Tekirdağ ın Çorlu ilçesine düzeltmeler yaptım acemice. Onlara bakıp  
hatalı yapılanlar ve dikkat etmem gereknler için bana bilgi vermeniz  
mümkünmüdür?


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Re: [Talk-tr] son zamanlarda ki büyükşehir düzeltmeleri...

[Roman Neumüller]

gerçekten anlamlı bir şekilden girilir ve sanki çoğu il merkezleri
residential yolları eklendi. Dün büyük şehirlerin tiles zoomlevel 10 ile  
13 arası

elden güncelledim - mesela Malatya'ya bak: http://osm.org/go/x55KIm

Kullanıcı adları mesela:
surendran1, SathyaV, Jalaludeen, SVishnu, vignesh anand, sheik farid,  
suresh ruban...


acaip yav!
ama iyi görünüyor...!

;-)

Düzeltme derken... Hakikaten anlamlı bir şekilde yol falan eklenmektemi  
yoksa isimlerimi değiştiriyorlar?


Misal bir bölge verebilirsen değişiklikleri görmek isterdim..

Hoşçakal,
Hakan


Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org wrote:


Fark ettiniz mi bilmem ama birkaç haftadan beri - daha doğrusu 18
Şubat'tan itibaren - çoğu sanki hint isimli kullanıcılar tarafından
Türkiye'nin büyükşehirleri düzeltilmektedir... tuhaf değil mi?

slm
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[Talk-tr] son zamanlarda ki büyükşehir düzeltmeleri...

[Roman Neumüller]

Fark ettiniz mi bilmem ama birkaç haftadan beri - daha doğrusu 18
Şubat'tan itibaren - çoğu sanki hint isimli kullanıcılar tarafından
Türkiye'nin büyükşehirleri düzeltilmektedir... tuhaf değil mi?

slm
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Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping Party

[Roman Neumüller]

Herhalde her şey bildiğin gibi yolunda gidiyor:

* 24–30 Sep OSM Comenius Mapping Party, Karacabey and Erdek, Turkey
* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tr:Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project

En iyi Necdet bilir ;-)

Karacabey civarında uydu resim olmadığı için belki HGK'da bulunur:

  http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/goruntuarsiv/hava/default.asp

selamlar
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[Talk-tr] FYI: Türkiye ve Çevresi Coğrafi Adlar Dizini (Gazetteer) Yayımlanması (HGK)

[Roman Neumüller]

Merhabalar uşaklar ;-)

Türkiye ve Çevresine ait coğrafi adlar dizini aşağıdaki adres
.xls veya .pdf şeklinden bulunur:

http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/gazetteer.html

selam
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Re: [Talk-tr] relation ve changeset çevirisi

[Roman Neumüller]

On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:57:42 +0200, Özgür Yüksel oyuksel...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Merhaba Roman,

Bu ceviri isi onemli - ve once gosterdigin e-posta hala bir vakit  bulup
aktif olarak ise girismemi bekliyor :) Yanitlarim asagida..
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2010/11/29 Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org


Merhabalar,

Bu terimler nasıl çevirelim:

* relation:
 relasyon / akraba / bağıntı / ilişki...



relasyon - fransizcadan calinti
akraba - bu durumda ilgisiz
bağıntı - çok doğru ama çok yeni Türkçe - herkes anlamayabilir
ilişki - en uygunu bence


TDK 'bağıntı' tanıyor http://tdkterim.gov.tr/bts/
relasyon fazla yabani bir terim, vikipedi ve TDK bile tanımıyor -



* changeset:
 değişiklik takımı ?

bence değişiklik seti daha anlaşilir olur .. Bu konuda daha fazla  
fikir de iyi olur :)



o da olabilir fakat 'set' de t+rk.e değil...


* blocks on me


bu terim tam olarak ne anlama geliyor bilemiyorum.


o bir engelleme konusu - vandallara karşı herhalde oluşturulmuş ve
kullanıcı sayfasında (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xyz) görünüyor




selam
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[OSM-talk] stumbled upon a greek wms server

[Roman Neumüller]

For people mapping Greece:

I just stumbled upon a wms server for greece

  http://www.ktimatologio.gr/ktima/EN/index.php

I didn't check the legals though - greece-mappers could try
and contact them...

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[OSM-talk] Attribution of OSM on nearmap.om?

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I'm missing the attribution of OSM data on the maps of nearmap -
am I wrong or shouldn't it mention OSM on the map itself?
On nearmap I only see the attribution after clicking Terms of Use...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Landsat?

[Roman Neumüller]

yeah, I'm having the same issues (Read timed out)

Roman


From: Tomas Straupis tomasstrau...@gmail.com
Subject: [OSM-talk] Landsat?
Hello
 Is anybody else experiencing landsat problems in JOSM?
  For about three days now landsat images are not available to JOSM.
  http://onearth.jpl.nasa.gov/ says something about evil ?repetitive
requests for non-cached, small WMS tiles?. Does that mean no more
landsat in JOSM?


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Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

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On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:12:42 +0300, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:


Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:04:29 +0200
From: Peter Herison pheri...@web.de
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch
Message-ID: i1g013$64...@dough.gmane.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=39.111598lon=-94.712041zoom=19
More and more often some tiles take longer to load and endup in the
error-image (We're sorry, the data you have requested...refresh your
browser to try again.).
Here is a link to a screen-shoot: http://yfrog.com/4vpotlatchj
This image stays, even if I change the browser or my IP-Address.
It also happens when I use maps.yahoo.com
(http://de.maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=hlat=39.113862lon=-94.713653zoom=21).
Can anybody confirm, or is it just my computer?


Confirmed for yesterday (12.7.2010) - today (10:00) problem vanished for me

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Re: [OSM-talk] search field not vivisble when not logged in

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On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 02:45:17 +0300, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Roman Neumüller r.neumul...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Hi all,

The main page (map) doesn't show the search field when not being logged  
in -

this is not very user friendly and doesn't conform to a wiki like site
where the search field is usually good visible and placed high on a page
(I had to scroll down half a VW lenght on my 1024*768 screen to see the
field ;-)
We had this subject before...


It's feature, to make you see the State of the Map ad..


The State of the Map maybe interesting for a handful of profis - not for
the newbie...
Anyway, the OpenStreetMap is a free editable map of the whole world...
takes about 248 pixel right away...
Is at a traffic issue to put it down under?

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[OSM-talk] search field not vivisble when not logged in

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Hi all,

The main page (map) doesn't show the search field when not being logged in  
-

this is not very user friendly and doesn't conform to a wiki like site
where the search field is usually good visible and placed high on a page
(I had to scroll down half a VW lenght on my 1024*768 screen to see the  
field ;-)

We had this subject before...

Greetings
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[OSM-talk] hot.openstreetmap.org

[Roman Neumüller]

FYI: opening hot.openstreetmap.org just shows the root files -
should better redirect to weblog/ .
(favicon.* files have 0 bytes)

Roman

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[OSM-talk] FYI: correspondence with wikiloc

[Roman Neumüller]

This is a correspondence I got into with Jordi from wikiloc.com

--- Forwarded message ---
From: Jordi Ramot jordi.ra...@gmail.com
To: Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: Wikiloc - User Feedback
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:34:18 +0300

Hi Roman, I cannot say ok since trails in wikiloc are creations of each
user
and I think it wouldn't be fair to reproduce and mix them externally
without
showing explicit attribution on OSM maps.

I've been thinking hard in how this could be done properly and a
possibility
would be to let wikiloc users to set the privacy of each trail as
private,
public in wikiloc, transferable to OSM etc.. and perhaps even create an
API that OSM could fetch all transferable to OSM trails automatically.
I'm
overwhelmed with pending features at this moment but that could definitely
be considered in the future.

I hope this doesn't affect your work and hope this discussion could end up
in a broader collaboration in the future

Jordi

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wikiloc.com - Trails of the World


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Roman Neumüller
em...@katpatuka.orgwrote:

 no, not on the map.
 you only see the tags in editors.
 it's a wiki-map we are creating and not a google overlay...

 OSM's license is Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license.

 maybe one of your team should create an account and start editing
 his/her home region on osm so that he/she then can tell osm
 under which conditions osm users can use gpx-tracks uploaded to
 wikiloc... - or tell us: no, you cannot use wikiloc-tracks.

 Roman


  Hi Roman, these tags will be explicitly visible to OSM users when they  
 see
 the trails on osm maps?

 Sent from my pint-sized communication device

 On 11/05/2010, at 19:57, Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org wrote:

  Hi Jordi,

 this sounds a bit odd to me...
 I do not know which agreement you have with google - osm is not using
 google in any way.

 Which tags should I add to a way to accomplish your attributions?

 * source=wikiloc.com
 * source_url=http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=894235
 * track_author=http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=gezenkurt

 Would that be ok?

 Cheers
 Roman

  Hi Roman,

 Sorry for being so slow in writing back to you on this. I've been
 discussing the situation and it'd be compatible with wikiloc terms  
 only if
 the trails from Wikiloc shown on OSM make explicitly visible the 3
 attributions (
 wikiloc.com, trail page and author's page) to users of OSM. We worked
 hard in the agreement with Google Earth to respect this attribution
 requirement and you can see it if you open one of Wikiloc trails on  
 Google
 Earth (you'll see clearly that the source is Wikiloc (logo, link),  
 the trail
 page and the trail author's page).

 Hope it helps

 Jordi

 I [...] let you know that I added OSM as a base layer
 last Thursday. You can switch from Google Maps to OSM by clicking  
 at More Maps button when visualizing a track in wikiloc.
 Nice :)

 Please if you use some of the GPS tracks in wikiloc to map on OSM  
 include a visible attribution as specified in the terms of use of  
 wikiloc:

 Attribution: When content from Wikiloc is displayed on an external  
 site it must include the Wikiloc's logo or name linked to  
 http://www.wikiloc.com, a link to the track page (e.g.  
 http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602)
 and the track author's name linked to his/her personal area at
 wikiloc.com(e.g. 'by –Ross' linked to
 http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/user.do?name=--Ross)

 There's no requirement to be links without the rel='nofollow' as  
 long as the source is clear.

 when working with ways we use tags like

highway=primary;
ref=D-400
name=Antalya-Mersin Yolu
source=GPS | Yahoo | landsat | survey

 We can freely use other tags like

source_url=http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=46602

 Would that be applicable?

 Greetings
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Re: [OSM-talk] Project of the Week 2010Mar28 - Swimming in data

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On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:48:16 +0300, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:17:28 -0430
 From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Project of the Week 2010Mar28 - Swimming in data
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org, newb...@openstreetmap.org
 Message-ID:
   a768be481003272247h1e714245yfc04e1c661626...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 Many of the coastlines in OSM came from an import of the PGS coastline
 data.  It was a fantastic benefit to be able to add this coastline
 data to OSM, and we're better off having had it.  And there are many
 places that have aerial imagery that is now good enough to improve on
 PGS coastlines.  So that is the project of the week for 28 March,
 2010, check your favorite bit of coastline and improve what you can
 with overhead imagery.
 Those without a favorite bit of unimproved coastline might take a look

I suggest searching the db for

   waterway=coastline AND (note=*rough* OR fixme=*rough*)

- for example coastlines of Indonesia and Vietnam are *really* rough!

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Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreet Maps in Word press

[Roman Neumüller]

Hi John,

Unfortunately the osm plugin from http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/
still is not available on wordpress.com - you'll have to get your own  
blog...

Roman

 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:52:22 -0800 (PST)
 From: John Yumbya jyum...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreet Maps in Word press
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Message-ID: 104871.31525...@web113805.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Ho do I have an open street map on my wordpress blog. Thanks
 Sincerely yours,
 John Y Mutua
 __
 iMap Africa
 Nairobi, Kenya
 Web Blog: http://imapafrica.wordpress.com


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Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 65, Issue 133

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 Thanks.
 Is there a way to put Refugee=Yes and Source=Google, 2010-01-17 as
 values in the backend?
 If someone could enter those into the backend, it would go much faster.
 I know about the r key, but that only works, after OSM's been
 loaded, and one's been created.
 But with a workflow where you're loading OSM anew each time, it doesn't  
 work.
 Really a bottleneck to have to enter these each time.

Create a camp ONCE with those tags:

  source=Google, 2010-01-17
  tourism=camp_site
  refugee=yes

the press CTRL+SHIFT+[selct-a-number-from-1-9]

At other campsites you then can select the are and press

  SHIFT+[select-the-number-from-1-9-chosen-above]

to set the tags there

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Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon (lake) not rendering

[Roman Neumüller]

I think you mean natural=water - natural=lake is undocumented ;-)
I'd understand natural=lakeshore - but that's undocumented too

Roman

 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:07:59 +
 From: ?var Arnfj?r? Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon (lake) not rendering
 To: Peter Herison pheri...@web.de
 Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Message-ID:
   51dd1af80910240407h292c83ebjdbcd127e6e187...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Peter Herison pheri...@web.de wrote:
 Could somebody take a look at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/300524 and why it's not
 rendering in mapnik?

 There are also some issues with osmarender:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=29.5216lon=-101.0699zoom=12layers=0B00FTF
 I've fixed it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2936060
 * You need to add natural=lake on the relation when outer is made up
 of multiple ways
  * Don't add tags on the inner ways. That's redundant


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Re: [OSM-talk] zoomlevel 8 rendering

[Roman Neumüller]

I understand (didn't check the tag:natural=water)
That is one needs to add the - a bit redundant - natural=water to
waterway=riverbank to get it rendered at zl=6
Riverbank wiki entry updated accordingly...

Roman

 On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 08:25 +0300, Roman Neumüller wrote:
 When does zoomlevel 8 get rendered?

 Every few weeks after a full import or when started manually. It was
 last done yesterday

 River Lena for example did not update on zoomlevel 8 since 24. July! (1)
 No problem for zoomlevel 9 though (2)...

 The part which renders on zoom level 8 has natural=water 
 waterway=riverbank [1]

 The part which does not render has just waterway=riverbank [2]

 The osm.xml style rules only render riverbank up to a scale of 2
 million:

 Rule
   Filter[waterway] = 'dock' or [landuse] = 'reservoir' or
 [landuse] = 'water' or [waterway] = 'mill_pond' or [waterway] =
 'riverbank' or [waterway]='canal'/Filter
   MaxScaleDenominator200/MaxScaleDenominator
   PolygonSymbolizer
 CssParameter name=fill#b5d0d0/CssParameter
  /PolygonSymbolizer
 /Rule

 This means that they only appear at zoom = 9.

 The natural=water renders to a scale of 10M which is zoom = 6.

 1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27729622
 2: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/29074703


   Jon

 Roman

 (1)
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215lon=128.018zoom=8layers=B000FTF
 (2)
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215lon=128.018zoom=9layers=B000FTF




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[OSM-talk] zoomlevel 8 rendering

[Roman Neumüller]

When does zoomlevel 8 get rendered?

River Lena for example did not update on zoomlevel 8 since 24. July! (1)
No problem for zoomlevel 9 though (2)...

Roman

(1)  
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=61.215lon=128.018zoom=8layers=B000FTF
(2)  
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1. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Sam Vekemans)
2. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish themfrom
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3. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Iv?n S?nchez Ortega)
4. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from
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5. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from
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6. Re: How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish them from
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7. Re: Help from Tourist office? (Dave F.)
8. Re: walking-papers.org is dead? (Michal Migurski)
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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:05:50 -0700
 From: Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Help from Tourist office?
 To: k...@vielevisels k...@vielevisels.de
 Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
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 Hi,
 Great idea,
 What im working on (for Across Canada).  Is actually going ahead and  
 filling
 in those amenities that the typical town-visitor would like to see
 (myself).   So I will be able to, probably using KOSMOS, create a nice  
 map
 of the town, then just donate the map to the tourist office.  And they  
 can
 make copies of it.

 What i would then do is ask the people at the tourist office, for when  
 they
 actually draw on the map, and indicate things which are not listed, to  
 make
 a 'working-copy', so then i can go back to the tourist office at a later
 date, and show them (in person) how to edit the map.  And make a new
 version, and print it off.   (Considering we know that most of the time
 there are LOTS of things missing on other tourist maps.) :-)

 Alot of the tourist offices i have been to offer a computer with internet
 access todo local searches and email. (sometimes for a fee), and some  
 have
 wi-fi.  since i use a mini-notebook, it's easy to show people on-the-fly.

 ... at least thats what i plan on doing, once this Canada Import is well
 underway. .. Probably for next year.

 Have fun,
 Cheers,
 Sam Vekemans
 Across Canada Trails

 Twitter: @Acrosscanada
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans


 On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:45 AM, k...@vielevisels k...@vielevisels.de  
 wrote:

  Hi,
 i recently travelled to a city with nearly 40.000 inhabitants and was
 surprised, that almost no hotels, restaurants and other amenities were  
 in
 OSM.
 So I had the idea to contact the tourist office with a short  
 introduction
 on OSM and how to tag, to give this to shops, hotels, restaurants and  
 so on.
 So with no effort, all these shops can have their business in OSM.
 Did anyone try this? What do you think of the idea?
 Kai

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 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:30:15 +0200
 From: David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag dead-ends and how to distinguish
   themfrom incomplete ways
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 k...@vielevisels wrote:

 Hi,
 many people tag ways, which are incomplete and show just the beginning,
 with the note (or FIXME) = stub. In the wiki, the tag noexit=no is
 intended for this. I think it would be helpful have one way to tag this
 and to render both (dead-ends and incomplete ways), to show where work  
 has
 to be done.

 Any comments on this?

 I agree that using noexit=no is a good thing to do.

 PS: noexit=no is not without problems, often there are ways which start  
 as
 a very good track, but end after some kilometers. So a tag displaying  
 that
 only the beginning of the track is displayed, would be 

[OSM-talk] good news: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org

[Roman Neumüller]

Good news: we can use the shapefiles of wetland.org (1)!
:D

Roman

(1)
http://ramsar.wetlands.org/GISMaps/DownloadGISdatasets/tabid/769/language/en-US/Default.aspx

--- Forwarded message ---
From: PECK Dwight p...@ramsar.org
To: Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org
Cc: stephan.fl...@wetlands.org stephan.fl...@wetlands.org
Subject: RE: RE: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:27:06 +0300

Greetings, many thanks for your message. As far as we are concerned, we
consider all of the Ramsar site data and products, including those that
Wetlands International prepares for us, to be in the public domain. We
only ask that the use of any data should be dated so that users can judge
the currency and accuracy.

Best regards, Dwight Peck.

**
Dwight Peck
Communications Officer
Ramsar Convention on Wetlands
Gland, Switzerland
p...@ramsar.org, www.ramsar.org


-Original Message-
From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org]
Sent: 22 September 2009 10:15
To: Ramsar Mailbox
Subject: Fwd: RE: shapefile usage of ramsar sites for openstreetmap.org

Hello,

I contacted Stephan Flink from wetlands.org to ask if openstreetmap.org
could make use of their shapefiles of Ramsar sites under Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. He adviced me to ask the Ramsar
Secretariat to confirm that there are no restriction to use this data (see
correspondence below).

Please let me know if there are any legal restrictions in using the data.

Greetings
Roman Neumüller

--- Forwarded message ---
From: Flink, Stephan stephan.fl...@wetlands.org
To: Roman Neumüller em...@katpatuka.org
Cc:
Subject: RE: shapefile usage for openstreetmap.org
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:33 +0300

Dear Roman,

I'm not aware of any legal restrictions to display the shapefiles in OSM
other than the following ToU
(http://ramsar.wetlands.org/Home/tabid/719/ctl/Terms/Default.aspx). As
Wetlands International is the caretaker of all Ramsar Site information and
the ownership of the data lies with the Ramsar Secretariat in Switzerland
(ram...@ramsar.orgmailto:ram...@ramsar.org), I suggest contacting the
Secretariat to ensure that this is indeed the case.

Best wishes,

Stephan Flink

-Original Message-
From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:em...@katpatuka.org]
Sent: vrijdag 18 september 2009 16:14
To: Flink, Stephan
Subject: RFI: shapefile usage for openstreetmap.org

Hello Stephan,

I see that I can download shapefiles of Ramsar sites from wetlands.org.
Are there any legal restrictions for conversion and usage of these
shapefiles under the wiki map project http://openstreetmap.org (OSM)?

OSM's content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike
2.0 license...

Greetings
Roman Neumüller
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Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik rendering

[Roman Neumüller]

 I don't know whether I have missed something, or else am just
 lucky, but mapnik is rendering the things I am editing super-fast.
 Two new and different renders of an area in about 30 minutes.

 Now the renderer is sucking up to the cartographers?

 It's really old news, that tile.openstreetmap.org is using the
 minutely diffs.
 Shaun

But seemingly only on zoomlevel 12 and higher numbers, right?
Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPS gadgets can get you jailed and fined

[Roman Neumüller]

In Russia they seemingly don't have no problems using GPS in planes... ;-)

Ref:
(1) http://gpslib.net/tracks/index.php?q=author=type=aviacountry=
(2) http://gpslib.net/ and choose 'avia'

  Roman

 Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:40:41 -0300
 From: Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GPS gadgets can get you jailed and fined
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Message-ID:
   96ab930f0908310640s218e95d3kf034960edc85a...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 Wow, such a crazyness...
 I tried to log a flight with my GPS-enabled cellphone (a Nokia N95), but  
 it didn't worked after a minute.
  http://sportstracker.nokia.com/nts/workoutdetail/index.do?id=569496  
 (forgive the google maps background, as this GPX is useless for mappingI  
 didn't uploaded it to OSM)
 But sometimes I run into some problems using my smartphone on a plane. It
 happened - twice - that the cabin crew didn't allowed me to use the  
 phone,  even after explaining it was on the airplane (offline) mode.
 Cheers,
 2009/8/30 Laurence Penney



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Re: [OSM-talk] Old GPS data

[Roman Neumüller]

This doesn't make sense to me.
At least there should be a timestamp of gpx-files which
tells us when they've been uploaded so that one could filter them
a la show me gpx-files not older than 3 years !

Roman

 On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Aleksejs Mjaliksli...@keeper.lv wrote:
 Does OSM invalidates GPS data after some time? Otherwise, roads
 continuously changes and after we will have a big cloud of points that
 don't make any sense.
 No, it doesn't. GPX tracks stay where they are forever and continue
 being served by the GPS API.



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[OSM-talk] osm traces and tags

[Roman Neumüller]

I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/

* a simple search field for tags
* being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload
* tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!)
 Does it 'need' to be case-sensitive?

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] osm traces and tags

[Roman Neumüller]

I'm still missing some things under http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/

* a simple search field for tags
* FIXED: being able to change/add tags of own trails after upload -
   I forgot the more link for tracks
* tags are case-sensitive (searching Turkey and turkey is not the same!)
   Does it 'need' to be case-sensitive?

Roman

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[OSM-talk] call for brainstorm on relations for rivers

[Roman Neumüller]

Hi all,

I'd like to call for a brainstorm on relations for rivers
under [[Talk:WikiProject Rivers]]. Any hydrologist around ?
;-)

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx - maps from openstreetmap

[Roman Neumüller]

 Hi,
 what formats can I put on the micro sd card for this device to read?
 So far I've managed to put a gpx file (which I converted from osm data
 using JOSM), in it.
 I thought it would use the gpx file as a map. Can that be done?

See also http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GroundTruth -
generates maps for Garmin GPS units using OpenStreetMap data and NASA's
SRTM digital elevation model

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] Roads/Rails Shapefile Import for Tanzania, Uganda, DRC, Rwanda

[Roman Neumüller]

Who's we exactly?
Is there a coordination place on the osm.wiki?
I'd like to participate - for example caring for rivers of Eritrea...
Do I have to join Africover User System first?
I joined there but now I have to answer some questions before I am able
to receive their data:

 Before we can process your request, please provide us with more details 
 regarding your organisation activities, as well as a more in-depth 
 description of your proposed use of the Africover data.
If you intend using the data for research purposes at University,please  
 provide us with an official letter/email from your researchsupervisor or  
 your Head of Department.
If you belong to a private organisation, please refer your request 
 directly to the country's National Focal Point Institution 
 (erit...@africover.org). More detailed contact information is available
 on our website.
We apologize for this inconvenience but we are not authorised to provide
 private organisations with data, without prior approval from the country.

Roman

 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:36:20 -0400
 From: Robert Soden robert.so...@gmail.com
 Subject: [OSM-talk] Roads/Rails Shapefile Import for Tanzania, Uganda,
   DRC,Rwanda
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Message-ID: c34e2327-93ad-4b5e-8b3a-15bba848d...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 Hello,
 Over the last few months, I've been in contact with FAO's Africover
 program: http://www.africover.org/ .  Africover maintains shapefiles
 containing rivers, roads, towns, and admin boundaries for a number of
 countries that we would like add to the OSM dataset.  While they
 normally do not release data under an OSM-acceptable license, they have
 granted us permission to add their data to Open Street Map.
 Over the next few weeks, we will be working on importing data for
 Tanzania, DR Congo, Uganda, and Rwanda.  We'll be working slowly in
 order to ensure accuracy and integrity of the OSM dataset.   Please feel
 free to get in touch if you are interested in learning more about our
 progress, but we will also be posting status reports on the project wiki
 pages.
 Africover also maintains datasets for
 Burundi, Egypt, Eritrea, Kenya, Somalia, and Sudan.  We may work on
 these over the longer-term, and would be happy to collaborate with other
 folks on this.
 Cheers,
 Robert Soden
 rob...@developmentseed.org



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Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

[Roman Neumüller]

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:41:38 +0200, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:

 Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the
 front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a
 long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it

I make a quick poll (1) on which which screen resolution osm'ers are  
using...

(1) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Poll/Screen_resolution

Roman

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[OSM-talk] form input field for GPS Traces

[Roman Neumüller]

I recommend to add a form input field for GPS Traces where a user can
easily search for a tag, let's say GPS tracks for Paris.
You can easily upload your tracks but you cannot easily search. I know that
I can of course type a tag into the browser's address field like

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/Paris

But a normal user may not know it. And: if I write it wrongly like

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/Pariss

or

   http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/Paris

I get:

   Application error

   Change this error message for exceptions thrown outside of an action
   (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) in public/500.html

Roman

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[OSM-talk] Large OSM globe style map of CycleMap coverage

[Roman Neumüller]

I'd like to see a large OSM globe style map of the cycle map coverage.
Additionally a large OSM globe style map of Yahoo hires-data (tags
hires=yes, boundary=yahoo and perhaps others) would be nice...
Can anyone do that?

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] West African mangrove forests and PGS coastlines

[Roman Neumüller]

I noticed the same issue on South America's eastcoast and large river  
mounds too...
I think there's no easy solution because the color of mangrove forests and  
the sea
are too near to one another...
Using josm's lakewalker to trace sea/island there' s a
maximum gray value to count as water one can play with...

Roman

 In West Africa, I have noticed that mangrove forests are often tagged as  
 sea
 by PGS. Some examples are found at:

 Does anyoe have any idea on how to solve this without having to do manual
 tracing for large parts of the coastline and riverbanks?



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Re: [OSM-talk] GroundTruth, a new mapmaking tool for Garmins - released

[Roman Neumüller]

Well done!
The first time I got a map of my region onto my Garmin ;-)
The cookbook is enough to get it done...

Bravo!

Roman

 I'm pleased to announce the first release of GroundTruth, a new tool for
 creating Garmin maps using OpenStreetMap data. You can find more
 information on my blog post:
 http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/groundtruth-released



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Re: [OSM-talk] The Wiki

[Roman Neumüller]

 SteveC wrote:

 It's amazing how the wiki has grown and is really a living place with
 a community around it these days, but it's showing some strain. For
 example until I fixed it, it was pretty hard for someone typing
 'addressing' to find out about how to do addressing in OSM. Yes I know
 it's not official yet that Karlsruhe is the 'right way'.
  What do you think?

By the way: one could enable $wgEnableMWSuggest in LocalSettings.php
to enable suggestions while typing in search boxes (as in wikipedia)...

Roman

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[OSM-talk] data inconsistence?

[Roman Neumüller]

For half an hour now I try to get another result but no: different data in
two
editors!

Please open
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-23.31738lon=-46.58105zoom=16
in both editors: potlatch and JOSM.

See the motorway near the river/canal? The north-bound motorway
changed to a straight line in JOSM (looking like this strange
potlatch error which sometimes happens) but not in potlatch!
There the ways go parallel!

And be sure I've both closed browser and josm and changed browsers -
when reopening: same result.

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] Invisible coastline errors in Potlatch

[Roman Neumüller]

  Shaun McDonald wrote:
 http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22359503/history looks like it is
 a 2 node way. Seems that there is a bug in Potlatch, causing it to not
 show the coastline here.
  But the way contains the same node twice, thus is meaningless. That's  
 not a
 bug in Potlatch, that's dodgy data.
I liked the circular way originally going between two points (ABA). It
 got even better when B was removed.
That's simply a singularity!

 /me looks for the created_by tag and walks away whistling innocently
A-ha!

Ban Everything!!1!
Cheers,
 Andy

I occasioanlly open hires areas in JOSM when stumbling over them.
Boy: what a whole bunch of errors one then starts to fix...!
All potlatch-related I suppose (sorry Rich ;-)

Roman

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[OSM-talk] namefinder problems

[Roman Neumüller]

I just wonder what the problems with the namefinder are.
Isn't it only ruby querying a database?
It should not make that much problems as it should only return some text
back...
Is it gazetteer.openstreetmap.org which has sometimes problems?

Another thing is that query results of both gazeteer *and* geonames should  
be
shown asynchron - I mean results should not have to wait for each other but
rather show up independent from each other so that which ever comes first
can be already listed in the Search Results bar.

And: are there any statistics about how often the namefinder is being used
per day/week/month?

Roman

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[OSM-talk] caching of landsat/yahoo images

[Roman Neumüller]

The JOSM plugin lakewalker has the IMHO very nice feature to cache the  
landsat
tiles it uses for walking a lake into its own folders. I just wonder if  
that
feature couldn't get extended to generally cache landsat images into a  
folder !?

If you live in a region were there is no Hires-data available at all you  
*solely*
have potlatch's flash/yahoo data or josm's landsat data to rely on. But  
you have
to download the image data over-and-over again whenever you are in the  
same region.

And: the same idea might apply for potlatch's flash/yahoo image data!
Wouldn't it be nice to have already downloaded images cached ?!?

;-)

Roman

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[Talk-tr] türkiye'nin ilçeleri

[Roman Neumüller]

Geçenlerde vikipedi'nin bilgileri göre bütün illerin ilçeleri
kontrol ettim ve eksik olanları ekledim. Vikipedi'nin bilgileri
inşallah güncel (bu yıl yeni birkaç ilçe koruldu ya...)

Roman

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Re: [OSM-talk] map display www.openstreetmap.org (Roman Neumüller)

[Roman Neumüller]

I agree with Matthias - if it was something to vote on I gave a (+)
- you don't need to see the damn paypal link on a besides inputbox for  
searching
useless sidebar when being a user who uses osm every day...

And I would like to see lat/long too of course...

Additionally I'd like a small inputbox to write lat/long into - it's  
otherwise
annoyingly difficult to replace lat/long in the addressbar...

...and maybe a small crosshair just in the middle of the map-window to  
indicate
the exact lat/long... ;-)

something left? Don't know for now...

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Re: [OSM-talk] Spam on Diaries

[Roman Neumüller]

 Tordanik wrote:
 There has been an increasing amount of link spam on user diaries
 recently, such as these entries:
 http://openstreetmap.org/user/festivalplus/diary/3689
 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3686
 http://openstreetmap.org/user/allfuckthem/diary/3688
  Is anyone working on countermeasures?
Do you have some suggestions? It's hard to see what we can do about this 
 sort of (presumably manual) spamming where people are prepared to go to 
 the trouble of registering and confirming an account beyond deleting the 
 accounts.
We are now logging the IP address used to create accounts so we can look 
 for patterns but I'm not hopeful.
Tom

Good would be something like
* wordpress akismet plugin,
* added captcha or
* if with link do it simply as in osm-wiki

Roman

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[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Propo sed features/lakeshore‎

[Roman Neumüller]

This is a proposal to be able to distinguish big lakes and reservoirs on
one hand from small lakes (natural=water) and sea (natural=coastline) on
the other.

There is a need to make the rendering of big lakes and reservoirs with
more than 500 nodes distinguishable from small lakes (with less than 500
nodes) and seas. Especially if working with [[JOSM]]'s [[Lakewalker]] to
create the outline of a big lake one has to choose
{{Tag|natural|coastline}} - otherwise one would have to create a
{{Tag|natural|water}} with say 20.000 nodes, (which makes loading in
either JOSM or potlatch very slow) - or one has to manually split the
20.000-node-lake into water-subparts which is not a very nice solution.
Coastline should be only applied to seas.

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