Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map

[Skywave]

Very nice feature, would it be possible, by any chance, to add Catalan
names, tag name:ca. A lot of streetnames are mapped in two languages, both
in Spain as in France.

Skywave

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:01 PM, D Tucny  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've been thinking about how it would be good to have the map available in
> multiple languages... I think the easiest way to do this with what we have
> is using a captionless base layer and transparent caption layers for each of
> the languages... So... I put this thinking into practice and put together a
> proof of concept at http://osm.newportcoastsoftware.com
>
> There is a single base, captionless layer and 40 transparent caption
> layers, all available only to zoom 8.
>
> The name tags imported and used to make the different layers are...
>
> name - The default name
> name:ar - Arabic
> name:cs - Czech
> name:cy - Welsh
> name:cz - Typo for Czech
> name:da - Danish
> name:de - German
> name:el - Greek
> name:en - English
> name:eo - Esperanto
> name:es - Spanish
> name:fi - Finnish
> name:fr - French
> name:ga - Irish Gaelic
> name:he - Hebrew
> name:hi - Hindi (font problems)
> name:hr - Croatian
> name:hu - Hungarian
> name:is - Icelandic
> name:it - Italian
> name:ja - Japanese
> name:ja_rm - Romanised Japanese
> name:kl - Kalaalisut (Greenlandic)
> name:ko - Korean
> name:la - Latin
> name:lt - Lithuanian
> name:lv - Latvian
> name:nl - Dutch
> name:pl - Polish
> name:ro - Romanian
> name:ru - Russian
> name:sk - Slovak
> name:sl - Slovenian
> name:sr - Serbian
> name:sv - Swedish
> name:th - Thai
> name:uk - Ukranian
> name:zh - Chinese
> name:zh_py - Chinese Pinyin
> name:zh_pyt - Chinese Pinyin with tones
>
> This isn't a list of all available languages in use, but, it was most of
> the languages in use for names of countries and cities when I looked...
>
> Issues:
> The layer switcher is quite long with so many layers, so, the map div has
> been set to 900px high to fully incorporate it... If less vertical space is
> available, you'll get a scroll bar, if more is available, the map won't fill
> the window...
>
> The rendering of Hindi has been broken by missed fonts... It should be
> rerendered in a while...
>
> The tiles are bigger than the live site thanks to them not having been
> created at 256 colours, this is due to transparency not currently working
> with 256 colour tiles...
>
> All tiles are prerendered... They don't get updated automatically and they
> aren't rendered on request... So if you make changes to OSM, they won't show
> up on this map for some time... Also nothing currently available beyond zoom
> 8, though I do plan on making certain areas with good examples of multiple
> languages available at higher zooms...
>
> This is just a proof of concept, it will likely disappear at some point...
>
> If anyone has any suggestions, or sees any problems, let me know...
>
> Thanks,
>
> d
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Massive building import - thoughts

[Skywave]

I manually traced two and a half cities in Southern-France: Perpignan (117k
citizens) and Prades (5800 citizens). I use for every building as a whole a
way, not for every single owner. It still works in JOSM and Potlatch, though
Potlatch is struggling. If someone wants to run stats over it here are some
permalinks:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.6907&lon=2.8895&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.61741&lon=2.42589&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF


On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Robert Scott  wrote:

> On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > If a generous
> > buffer is calculated around each of these and the area excluded from the
> > import, that would still allow a large portion of the import to go ahead
> > automatically.
>
> Better than excluding the buildings from the import, tag the
> possibly-overlapping buildings with placeholder tags, so the data is there
> but it is 'commented out'. This will allow people to choose either piece of
> data after a review.
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] changes not showing up in potlatch

[Skywave]

I assume you mean Mapnik, mapnik is not done loading the data. If you see
your data when opening potlatch (it is the editor tab) or JOSM, it is the
DB.
Also it is probably already rendered on the Osmarender layer and definitely
on the data layer (real time), click the blue plus icon in the right top

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Nathan Mixter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Is there any reason the weekly changes weren't reflected on the Potlatch
> map? Usually they are made Tuesday night. Did the day change? Could there be
> a problem with the data I uploaded? It was quite extensive, buildings,
> tracks, landuse, etc. Thanks.
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Boundary data

[Skywave]

IMO, relations are the way to go. It can handle every situation including
holes (exclaves/enclaves), multiple names, multiple administrative levels on
same border. The only question remaining if you should add the coastlines to
it. Also since the import of the Italian data and the reimport of AND
boundaries in NL, there are now 10297 boundary relations according to
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/top_undocumented_relations.html.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Boundaries

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Roland Olbricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> the boundary in OSM is maybe suboptimal structured. What is the best
> option?
>
> 1) Leave the data as it is and use precautions in the software using it
> 2) Silently correct the data by running an appropriate script
> 3) Discuss somewhere (where?) what the script should correct and what not
> 4) Encourage somehow (how?) the mapper community to correct it manually
>
> In detail, there are
> a) the "left:country" and "right:country" attributes in the boundary ways.
> b) the nodes with tag k="place" v="country" which contain more information
> on
> a country.
>
> The information in a) is only partially present, it is sensitive to typos
> or
> name variants of countries (e.g. "Belgium", "Belgique" or "Congo", "DR
> Congo"), it is redundant, sometimes it is simply inaccurate (e.g. if a way
> passes a point where three countries meet, there is no way to note the
> change
> of the country on one side) and it does provide no chance for additional
> information, e.g. the names of a country in different languages.
>
> But nonetheless, it is currently used by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for giving the 
> borders
> names. So silently stripping of the tag might affect the rendering.
>
> Storing the information in b) would leave more space for information about
> the
> country (currently used for example for the name of the country in
> different
> languages) but it has almost no connection to the boundary itself an it
> doesn't provide any information about exclaves of the country.
>
> A possible solution would be to have instead of b) a relation which
> contains
> all the tags of b) and as members all ways that constitute the border of
> that
> country. A good example would be relation 47796 for the Netherlands.
>
> Cheers,
> Roland
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

[Skywave]

perl shp2osm.pl namroads.shp > namroads.osm on linux, would do the trick. On
windows you need to install ActivePerl.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Andre Schoonbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  How do I execute the shp2osm.pl. I have Windows and also Linux (Fedora
> and Ubuntu). I have tried ./shp2osm.pl namroads.shp > namroads.osm and also
> ./shp2osm.pl namroads.shp.
>
>
>
> But it does not work. Continue getting an error that no use command used..
>
>
>
> I need help PLEASE!
>
> Andre
>
>
>  --
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> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:56 AM
> *To:* talk@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files
>
>
>
> http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/shp2osm/
>
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Andre Schoonbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi List
> This is my second attempt :)
>
> I have my road data in shapefile and want to load that into OSM - any help
> or direction would be appreciated.
>
> Andre
>
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[OSM-talk] Diffs + osmxapi are no longer updated

[Skywave]

I see the latest diff is from 23-Oct-2008 04:14. Something wrong?
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Re: [OSM-talk] brand=...

[Skywave]

I have been using myself the operator=tag for this kind of stuff. Any
opinion if brand= is more suitable than operator+.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:05 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I notice there is increasing use of a tag brand=... for things like
> shops, fuel, banks, atms etc. This seems like a good idea to me, as the
> name of something ("Murkets Corner filling station") can be different
> from its branding ("Shell"). Often you'd use them interchangeable
> ("Starbucks" doesn't often have a specific name, other than perhaps the
> name of the street or town to which it applies, which is probably clear
> from the context).
>
> As this seems to be in fairly common use, I'll add it to map features as
> it isn't mentioned anywhere explicitly yet.
>
> Also, I will change the Name finder to start recognising it. New or
> amended 'brand's will get into the index fairly soon, but existing ones
> won't until I rebuild the index from a complete planet file, which I
> intend to do over Christmas (it will take at least a week to do this).
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM from shape files

[Skywave]

http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/shp2osm/

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Andre Schoonbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Hi List
> This is my second attempt :)
>
> I have my road data in shapefile and want to load that into OSM - any help
> or direction would be appreciated.
>
> Andre
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] APIs down?

[Skywave]

Do you mean with " taking in to account borders data already deployed in
Openstreetmap", that you will keep the existing ones based on VMAP?. That
data is crap (i imported it a long time ago), at least in Southern-France
and anywhere else i looked. So i think the Italian data will be better.

Thomas

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Simone Cortesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:28 PM, 80n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Milenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> All of my clients are currently failing to download data from any of the
> >> APIs.  Are they really down, or do I have some other problem?  Main API
> >> reports a 500 Internal Server Error, ROMA gives a 503 Service
> Temporarily
> >> Unavailable, and XAPI gives 501 Internal Server Error.
> >
> > Two (out of three) of the XAPI servers are up. Both
> > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org and
> http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/
> > were responding fine just now.
> >
> > A 501 error is normally a symptom that there are no free daemons.  Likely
> to
> > happen if either or both of them get overloaded.  Its usually a temporary
> > condition.
>
> I'm in the process of uploading 55mb of italian borders as of here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Italian_Borders
>
> I've just launched a couple of admin_level=* limited to the italian
> BBox OSMXAPI calls.
>
> I might be the cause of it... :(
>
> -S
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Re: [OSM-talk] trace from a kml ?

[Skywave]

I have had exactly the same with mobile trail explorer, i converted it
succesfully with www.gpsvisualizer.com

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:46 PM, leblatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  (This question is also posted on the Mobile Trail Explorer ML.)
>
> I made a 4 hour trip, recording over 100 places in audio with MTE. But the
> saved gpx is 0 byte long.
>
> Fortunately, I also saved the trace as a kml, which displays correctly in
> google earth.
>
> But if I try to convert from kml to gpx with GPSBabel, I get a
> "trackfilter-init: Found track point without time!" error, and no conversion
> occurs.
>
> Does someone know a way to use my data ? Thank you for advice !
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Re: [OSM-talk] Phone numbers in OSM

[Skywave]

In my opinion will a phone number will probably last as long as the POI
(there are always exceptions). And we add those too. Also other data
providers like Navteq and Teleatlas include phone numbers. It is very useful
to have the phone numbers of the nearest hotels/restaurants etc in the area

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Donald Allwright <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >This is assuming current levels of activity - where at present, most
> >effort of contributors is put into mapping unmapped areas. This will
> >change.
>
> I agree it will change - but probably the change will be that a good
> proportion of the mappers lose interest because there's nothing to do (or at
> least very little).
>
> In my view a telephone number is something that goes out of date quickly,
> so should not be included in OSM. On the other hand most geographical
> features are very long-lived, the main changes being that new housing
> estates/roads are built where previously the map was largely blank space.
> These are likely to get filled in quickly (I've even mapped roads that
> aren't officially open yet) as they are an 'easy' target. I also have the
> same reservations about the company operating a bus route being included in
> the map - companies (including transport companies) come and go, change
> name, merge, split up, get taken public, get taken private again and
> generally re-brand themselves with remarkable frequency. For that matter,
> the bus routes themselves change (but perhaps not so frequently).
>
> Donald
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Mapnik Style Editor

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It was Martijn Pannevis. see:

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-nl/2008-February/005170.html

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Dane Springmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Anyone know the author of this Mapnik OSM style editor?
>
> http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~panman/styledit/
>
> I'm curious if the source code for this tool is available in osm svn,
> or if anything else like it exists.
>
> Thanks,
> Dane
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[OSM-talk] Routable Garmin maps

[Skywave]

I see cgpsmapper's mapcenter is already being flooded by OSM maps ;)

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Erik Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's now possible to get Garmin maps with routing made from OSM data.
> Using a perl script that converts .osm to .mp which  can be converted
> to Garmin binary maps. Converting openstreetmap map features  to
> Garmin magic numbers has never been easier.
>
> Big thanks goes to liosha for this.
>
> Source:
> http://garminmapsearch.com/osm/osm2mp_v04.zip
>
> Read more at:
> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=666
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[OSM-talk] /tecnique/tool for drawing buildings?

[Skywave]

JOSM has a tool to determine angles and draw rectangles by extruding a line.
I do remember you will have to set the projection of JOSM to mercator to get
it all working correctly

On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Axel von Matern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Is there a good technique or tool for drawing buildings? How do you
> guys do it? I am having a hard time to make the 90 degree corners,
> parallell ways etc.
>
> (Would be nice to have a simple tool in Potlatch that draw boxes. With
> a rotate tool that would be all thats needed drawing better buildings.)
>
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[OSM-talk] OSM Aware, the state of the current pheromones

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http://skywave0.googlepages.com/osm-kml2.html?zoom=6&lat=46.43289&lon=1.51207&layers=B0T

I hacked  (changed one line ;) ) on an example provided by crschmidt.

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:38 PM, François Schnell <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks Tim for your feedback, I appreciate.
>
> Concerning "World Wind" it looks like you can visualize KML with
> placemarks since version 1.3.4. I just had a quick try, it seems to work
> fine for placemarks (but it doesn't seem to show the extrusion for lines in
> my "v2" KMLs, just the top):
> http://flickr.com/photos/frenchy/2490757820/
>
> I've also heard Microsft's "Virtual Earth"  supports KMLs now (but haven't
> tried it).
> It looks like KMLs are now spreading quickly since its 'Open Standard'
> adoption:
>
> """
> The KML 2.2 specification has been submitted to the Open Geospatial
> Consortium to assure its status as an open standard for all geobrowsers. As
> of November 2007, the OGC has a new KML 2.2 Standards Working Group.
> Comments were sought on the proposed standard until January 4, 2008,[1] and
> it became an industry standard on April 14, 2008.[2]
> """
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language
>
> That said I could try other formats like GeoRss and GML.
>
> """ as an overlay over existing osm maps? """
>
> Yes that certainly would be nice :)
> I'll look at it when I'll have some time for it (OpenLayers,
> SlippyMap,...)
>
> Thanks
>
> francois
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:13 AM, tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > just thought this was a lovely, brilliant visualisation of osm usage.
> > Well done, good work!
> >
> > Would love to see some of this in non-kml formats, somehow (google
> > earth doesn't work well for me). Or on the web.
> > (GeoRSS? GML? Worldwind? etc)
> >
> > as an overlay over existing osm maps?
> >
> > tim
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[OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide "completeness" tools

[Skywave]

Freek recently created this image which shows how much of the AND data is
untouched: http://www.vanwal.nl/osm/author_density_nl_20080502_full.png(warning
3 MB image). I think the z18 idea is good idea.

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 12/05/2008 21:02, Cartinus wrote:
> > On Monday 12 May 2008 21:16:38 David Earl wrote:
> >> So I think Inge is right - we need different measures for our own use.
> >> But on the public map, all streets with names seems a pretty good
> >> achievable and useful thing to show.
> >
> > I don't think it is a good idea to call that just "complete". I think it
> > should be made very clear that it is just the road network that is
> complete
> > and not the map.
>
> Fine.
>
> > With the import of the AND data the road network in the Netherlands is
> mostly
> > complete. Now we often hear: "Why do you still need to map more? It is
> > complete with the AND data, isn't it?"
> >
> > Having more levels or categories of completeness makes it clear that we
> are
> > not finished yet after we put the roads in the database.
>
> I think we are violently agreeing here!
>
> David
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[OSM-talk] rendering of large rivers

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Maybe riverbanks should be picked up by the coastline checker, then the
rivers will be in the shapefile en get rendered.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Ulf Mehlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, I'm looking for information about the present status of the
> "Large River" proposal (from the Wiki) viz. its consequences for
> rendering. I found that Osmarender renders a river in "my" area
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-1.0155&lon=-46.7088&zoom=12&layers=0BFT
>
> correctly, while Mapnik prints only the waterway=riverbank lines at high
> zoom levels but does not fill the river areas. I noticed a similar
> problem with River Thames:
>
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.38037&lon=-0.45917&zoom=16&layers=B0FT
>
> What is the best way to get large rivers rendered properly for now?
>
> Thanks for your help ...
> Ulf
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[OSM-talk] Bulk Data Import how-to and tips

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JOSM can't read shape files, you will have to adapt this script
http://boston.freemap.in/osm/files/mgis_to_osm.py to convert shapefiles to
osm.
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Patrick Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi list
>
> I have been mapping my home country Luxembourg for the past 6 months. I
> recently have been offered by another OSM user who works at the national
> road works agency (not shure about the translation but anyway), to get the
> national road network (all primary highways, trunk and motorways) imported
> into OSM. Apparently they are okay with it. Great News!
>
> Now I am trying to figure out how this will work in practice, as we are
> not importing into a blank canvas, but a sizable bit of the road network has
> been done already. How can we merge the two datasets, and keep the best bits
> of both?
>
> Also, whats the best procedure for the conversion. I suspect we will get
> the data as shapefiles. Can JOSM read shapefiles?
>
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[OSM-talk] railways/roads/canals/rivers/etc. inside buildings

[Skywave]

Due to the way osm.xml is built at the moment, mapnik will always render
buildings underneath other features. Osmarender uses the layer= tag to
determine what's on top.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> a situation has come up, where i've been mapping some railway lines
> that go through a maintenance shed. the problem is, the railway is
> drawn on top of the shed, rather than shown dotted too imply it's
> underneath/inside. is there a tag i could use, to show that it's
> inside? something like the tunnel tag
>
> http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=-36.88633&lon=174.76474&zoom=15&layers=B0FT
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[OSM-talk] help with coastline

[Skywave]

If you use the coastline error checker, you would see that parts of the way
are reversed. With coastlines the Land should always be to the Left.
http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?lat=-1.09287&lon=-46.13269&zoom=10&layers=B00T

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Ulf Mehlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello openstreetmap experts,
>
> I tried to add a few details to a segment of the coastline of northern
> Brazil, but as I see today on Mapnik this caused some disorder in the
> coastline rendering (it looked almost ok in the slippy map/Osmarender,
> though).
>
> I would appreciate if one of the more experienced coastliners could help
> me to find the error(s) -- I'm stuck at the moment!
>
> The area in question is
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-0.9293&lon=-46.6796&zoom=12&layers=B0FT
>
> Many thanks in advance (and sorry for the mess ...)
> Ulf
>
> --
>  Ulf Mehlig<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

[Skywave]

I meant loading it in a pgsql database.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Skywave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think it is better to load the data and then just query the total length
> of the highways. Like this http://slyserv.dyndns.org/osm/resultat.html
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> >
> > > Of course this is very simplistic and I believe you will come up with
> > > much better measures of progress. Let's hear your numbers ;-)
> >
> > Interesting numbers.  I suspect "objects per capita" would be more
> > meaningful than compressed bytes though (but more effort to calculate,
> > of
> > course :)
> >
> >  - Steve
> >xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > http://www.nexusuk.org/
> >
> >  Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

[Skywave]

I think it is better to load the data and then just query the total length
of the highways. Like this http://slyserv.dyndns.org/osm/resultat.html

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> > Of course this is very simplistic and I believe you will come up with
> > much better measures of progress. Let's hear your numbers ;-)
>
> Interesting numbers.  I suspect "objects per capita" would be more
> meaningful than compressed bytes though (but more effort to calculate, of
> course :)
>
>  - Steve
>xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://www.nexusuk.org/
>
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[OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

[Skywave]

You can convert that file. Just search for 04to05.pl in SVN/TRAC

On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 27/04/2008 17:25, Andy Allan wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after
> 17:40
> >>  on April 16?
> >
> > I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and
> > the like beyond those in the editors, so everyone is on an equal
> > footing when it comes to rolling back.
>
> Oh. I thought this had been done. So what happens if someone deletes the
> whole of Cambridge?
>
> > As time goes on, I expect there will be more options. Obviously
> > someone with db access could write some exceptionally complex SQL to
> > roll back a particular users' changes, but I'm not sure that anyone
> > who can would rather do that than just use the editors anyway.
>
> I would. It's going to take me an hour or so to repair these changes,
> which are all isolated (there's no further changes in that area); if I
> could roll back, it would be quick and easy.
>
> Sadly I have the OSM file for this, but I did it during API4, so it
> won't read any more, otherwise I could just copy my original data.
>
> David
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Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

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Download from here, it uses a polygon instead of a bbox.
http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Johan Huysmans
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Currently i'm working with the bbox of Belgium, but this bbox includes
>  parts of the Netherlands, France,..
>
>  And this gives me some problems... it appears that some places in
>  Belgium also exists in the Netherlands or France.
>
>  Apparently it is only possible to use bbox-es to limit the size.
>  Are there any ideas or plans to implement some way you can limit the
>  size for eg. a country?
>
>  Johan
>
>
>  80n wrote:
>  > You can have any shaped bbox you like as long as it is a rectangle ;)
>  >
>  > Can anyone point me to a good algorithm for selecting points within an
>  > arbitrary polygon?
>  >
>  > 80n
>  >
>  > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Johan Huysmans
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > I' experimenting with osmxapi to get a list of all places in Belgium.
>  > Getting a list of all places is no problem, but the list is a bit too
>  > large ;)
>  >
>  > Can I specify that I only want the places in Belgium? Can this be done
>  > with bbox?
>  >
>  > Is there a known mapping that give you the exact bbox for each
>  > country?
>  >
>  > Thx, Johan Huysmans
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[OSM-talk] Spanish GeoData for OSM?

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Any news?

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
> > Just read the following blog post:
>  > 
> http://spanring.eu/blog/2008/04/13/difusion-publica-de-la-informacion-geografica/
>  >
>  > Basically, following on from the INSPIRE initiative
>
>  , and pressure from OSM, and pressure from osgeo, and pressure from gvsig,
>  and pressure from private companies...
>
>
>  > , the Spanish Ministry of Public Works (Ministerio de Fomento) issued a
>  > statement regarding the Spanish geodata policy. Specifically, they state
>  > according to the document that:
>  [...]
>
> > As far as my Spanish goes, this means free access to geodata given that
>  > it is for non commercial use and has attribution.
>  > If this gives access to a great deal of Spanish geodata, how would those
>  > conditions pan out with the OSM license?
>
>  The non-commercial clauses are a bit of a headache, so direct import of
>  the data into OSM is out of the way, by now.
>
>  However, there are no details on derivative works. So a lawyer will be
>  visiting them this wednesday, to sort that out. I'm quite positive about
>  using their WMS services to build OSM on top of them.
>
>  (BTW: I announced just this on talk-legal a few days ago)
>
>
>  Cheers,
>  --
>  Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta
>  compleja.
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[OSM-talk] [tagging] Vote opened - aeroway=gate

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Voting is now open on the aeroway=gate proposal - please add your vote

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/aeroway_gate

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Re: [OSM-talk] Recent (last few weeks) [EMAIL PROTECTED] render changes

[Skywave]

Would it be possible to take the borders in the same rendering as you render
the text? The way they are now in the captionless tiles they are imho
invisible. Also it would be very nice to filter on admin_level

Skywave

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 10:44 PM, 80n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I've been looking at some of the recent changes to rendering of [EMAIL 
> > PROTECTED], and
> > have some comments.
> >
> > Looking at the US at zoom 4 shows 3 distinctly  rendered zones:
> > East, Southwest, and Northwest.  Looking a bit closer, it seems like the
> > east is further subdivided into northeast and southeast.
> >
> > Of these, it seems that the southwest is the oldest (zoom 8 tiles last
> > rendered in January), then the northwest and southeast (zoom 8 tiles
> > rendered in early March), and finally the east (zoom 8 tiles rendered in
> > the last week or so.
> >
> > I have the following observations:
> >
> > 1. rail is overemphasized in the oldest zone, but completely absent in
> > the newer ones.  This is unfortunate.
> >
>
> I agree.
>
>
> >
> > 2.  State borders are missing or absent in all but the oldest.
> >
>
> I think state borders are there, they are just drowned out by secondary
> roads.
>
>
> >
> > 3. secondary roads are overemphasized in the newest zone.  It makes
> > whole areas into orange blobs.
> > (http://a.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile/6/17/24.png for example)
> > They were about right in the middle-aged one.
> >
>
> Agree, although someone commented recently that many secondary roads
> imported by TIGER should more realistically be tagged as tertiary.
>
>
> >
> > 4. primary roads are underemphasized in the middle-aged zones, but about
> > right in the newest zone.
> >
>
> Agreed.
>
>
>
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] vandalism or 'where is cuba?'

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I remember now, i did that, so i could upload coastline for the whole of
Cuba and then merg the better quality again. But i found that the PGS data
had too many holes and decided not to upload it. But then forgot to undelete
it.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM, micha ruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi OSM,
> >
> > just after I finished traceing the coastline of the port of Havanna,
> Cuba i
> > noticed oddly looking
> > clusters of untagged nodes in the city. humm.. Nodes placed at
> intersections
> > looks reasonable,
> > but where are the ways? humm.. Time to test the Undo-Feature of potlach:
> 'U'
> > is the key to press.
> >
> > Result:
> > Hahaha! Nice! A red coastline appears!   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > It looks like the whole coastline of cuba has been deleted, surely some
> > streets in Havanna also.
> >  Should I fix it? - No, it certainly gets deleted again.
> >
> >
> >  WHAT SHALL WE DO?
> >
> >
> > P.S. For those who don't know where Havanna actually is (or should be):
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=23.13471&lon=-82.36712&zoom=15
> >
> >
>
>
> The deleted ways where deleted by user Skywave. It might not have been
> deliberate, it might have been accidental. I'd suggest talking to the
> user to find out.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Skywave (click send message).
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Re: [OSM-talk] New Coastline in Mapnik

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Well Dubai and the Palm Islands look really nice :)

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=25.118&lon=55.12&zoom=11&layers=B0FT

On Feb 7, 2008 1:09 PM, J.D. Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Artem Pavlenko skrev:
> >
> > I didn't mean this was something new for the world, but that these
> > coastlines are new in the Mapnik layer.
> >
> > Sorry to have "lagged behind" so shamefully :)
> >
> > A.
> >
>
> You're forgiven - IF you promise to go out and log the location of not
> less than 20 pubs in your area, submit the data, and get them rendered
> on both the Mapnik and Osmarender layer, before the end of February.
> Extra points for sampling a beer at each pub. Extra-extra points for
> doing it all in one day.. ;)
>
> If you need to justify this task to a significant other, just tell the
> S.O. that it is physical liver-training in preparation for SOTM08 (held
> in the Land of Guinness, and with lots of Brits attending - Prior
> liver-training strongly recommended).
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