Re: [OSM-talk] Obscure African dirt tracks in Google Maps - how does Google records them ? Automated tracing ?

2012-10-16 Thread Willi
Well, I don't care if Google is obtaining these roads manually or
automatically. The result is lousy in both cases.

Have a look what a single local mapper can achieve and compare it to Google
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=googlemap&mt1=mapnik&lon=102.67883&lat=16.
62325&zoom=14

And the map is also available bilingual
http://thaimap.osm-tools.org/?zoom=14&lat=16.62325&lon=102.67883&layers=B00 


On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 6:35 PM Jean-Marc Liotier
[mailto:j...@liotier.org] wrote:

I sometimes work on Senegal from Bing imagery, and I'll hopefully convince
some Senegalese friends to help me with names and POI. I took a look at the
competition's progress and I have been very impressed : whereas
Openstreetmap could formerly claim better coverage in Africa, it is now
lagging in volume behind Google - take a look at http://goo.gl/maps/mH3pK
(equivalent area in OSM at http://osm.org/go/azSB9oX--). Google now features
impressive mileage of dirt tracks and residential dirt streets in obscure
backwaters.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-02 Thread Willi
On Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:02 PM Ilya Zverev [mailto:zve...@textual.ru]
wrote

> You can write into user filter '!Willi' (without quotes).

That's excellent. I didn't think that it's that easy.
Now I can watch easily even a larger area for deletions.

Willi
 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-01 Thread Willi
Great tool. Thanks a lot. Used it already with success.

Is it possible to deselect a userid? When surveying an area I would prefer
to see just the changes others made. I know mine.

Willi


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Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines & OSMF/DWG governance

2012-09-18 Thread Willi
I really don't like the attitude expressed by several people here in
response to this subject and which is already contained in the subject
itself "OSMF/DWG governance".

Governance. There's no governance. DWG is a group and everybody is free to
join it. The job is voluntary and unpaid. Being "just" a mapper I'm more
than happy that there are skilled people who help OSMF and the
administrators to keep the system running which I gladly can use for free.

And if they would contact me and tell me that I'm doing something which is
not good for the system or might even cause problems I would say thank you
and be happy to follow their advice. I can map but I'm no OSM system expert
and I'm very interested that the system keeps running as good as it does.

If I travel in a foreign country problems arising from not speaking the
local language are for sure not to blame to the local people. And if I join
an international community problems arising from being unable to communicate
in the language of the community are for sure not to blame to the community.
In both cases it's my decision and therefore my problem.

DWG and administrators, thank you very much for doing this voluntary and
unpaid job. Keep on going and don't' get disappointed by people with
inappropriate attitude for community work. They are the minority.

Willi


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Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: "building"="levels=N"

2012-05-20 Thread Willi
Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] wrote at  Monday, May 21, 2012
2:31 AM
> This page also states it is only draft. It links to not existing examples
of Mechanical Edit pages.

> Existing pages do not follow this policy completely too (contact info
lacks, not in category Mechanical Edits).

> There are also some valid objections to this policy in talk page.

> Please discuss this policy on talk@ list before enforcing it. Remember you
need to get consensus.

 

When something isn't perfect (yet) this doesn't imply that it can be
disregarded completely and being replaced by one's own procedure. And an own
procedure needs consensus  too!

 

I can't resist to get the impression that he is what his chosen name says
the "worst fixer" I ever saw.

 

Willi

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Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Willi
Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] wrote at Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:54
PM:

 

Ø  You dislike me personally. You tell me I will be banned. You will never
say "there is consensus on this upload". You give yourself right to make
final decision what is good and what is right. 

 

Ø  I think I have this right too. But both of us are wrong. We can not
co-exist in project when we both have such rights at the same time. Ich will
not go away from project. Ich hope you will not too. You are good after all.

 

Again this is damned outrageous. Frederik has a good reputation since years
in the OSM community. His contributions in different areas are well
appreciated. 

 

You are mapper since May 9th and behave like a schoolmaster (Deutsch:
Oberlehrer):

-  Did you realize and understand that OSM isn’t a democracy but a
doocracy?

-  What did you contribute except modifying contributions of others?


-  Do you understand or did you at least look at the contributions
of others?

-  What’s your reputation? 

-  Where are the OSM members supporting your activities?

 

Willi

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Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2011-12-29 Thread Willi
On 28. December 2011 17:21 Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org] wrote:

> I think that this is an attitude problem with some of the potential users
of OSM; 
> they assume that it is our job to make them like us. "Show me what you've
got", they say. 
> ...
> But as a project, I don't think it is not our job to reach out to users
and
> "sell" ourselves to them.
> ...
> In my eyes, we are not aimed at "map consumers". We are, to borrow
business terms, 
> a producer or maybe a distributor, but we're not a retailer.

Fully agree with the statements, especially with the above ones. For me too,
OSM is a free and open project to collect and offer geographical data and
not a map producer. I regard this as the project's advantage and strength
and thus should never be changed.

Willi


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Re: [OSM-talk] measure building height with a droid phone

2011-08-31 Thread Willi
maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] wrote on 29. August 2011
19:33

> Has anyone tried this?
> http://androidboy1.blogspot.com/2010/10/smart-measure-ver-10-manual.html

> Cool tool for 3d mapping. :)

"We like the creativity and innovation behind this distance-measuring app, 
but it lacks accuracy and precision."
http://www.pcworld.com/appguide/app.html?id=582743&expand=false

Happy mapping
Willi


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Re: [OSM-talk] Path with Pit Stops

2011-02-11 Thread Willi
MapFactor Navigator Free does this. It's free with maps based on OSM data
and runs out of the box without problems on Windows PC and Windows Mobile.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapFactor_Navigator_Free


On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Esben Stien  wrote:
>
> Is there some kind of application that can help me with plotting the
> smartest route in a set of points, if you're supposed to visit all the
> points?
>
> Imagine a salesman, who has to visit 10 locations. Is there some
> software that can assist me in visiting these 10 locations the smartest
> and shortest way?.
>
> Any pointers?.



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Re: [OSM-talk] GPS track upload working?

2011-01-24 Thread Willi
On 25. Janr 2011 03:30 Ed Avis [e...@waniasset.com] wrote 

> Hmm, for me it's still not working.  Anybody else seeing the same?

Yesterday I tried several times without success. Today it worked at the
first trial. I propose to wait and try again, seems to be a temporary at
different times for different users or may be locations.


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Re: [OSM-talk] What's wrong with this multipolygon?

2010-08-27 Thread Willi
On 27. August 2010 09:10   Nathan Edgars II [nerou...@gmail.com]wrote
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1141252
>>> Mapnik has no problems with it, but Osmarender won't fill the northern
>>> part correctly. (It's not a delay in rendering; I added the swamps
>>> after creating the multipolygon.)


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Willi  wrote:
>> There are several areas like school, park, wetland and retail within the
>> outer line of the multipolygon but they aren't inner members of the
>> multipolygon, i.e. the multipolygon is incomplete. In this case the
result
>> depends on the rendering sequence and isn't always as expected. You can
see
>> already in JOSM a difference. These areas aren't drawn in their usual
color
>> but in a compound color. After adding an area as inner JOSM will draw it
in
>> its usual color.


On 27. August 2010 16:41 Nathan Edgars II [nerou...@gmail.com]wrote
> Those aren't inner areas though; they're all parts of the Southchase
> neighborhood. Think of it like a city boundary multipolygon with
> slightly ill-defined borders. (If there's a better way to tag a
> mostly-residential neighborhood than landuse=residential name=*, I'm
> unaware of it.)

To describe a boundary you can use (change the current relation to)
Relation:boundary which isn't filled with a color:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:boundary.

Willi 


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Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

2010-08-16 Thread Willi
Looks like making a mountain out of a molehill.

All this could easily be avoided by following some simple polite rules:
- Don't leave deliberately untagged objects.
  Use at least a note or fixme to avoid that others waste their time.
- Don't touch anything which has been changed within the last day by another
mapper.
  The person might still uploading or working on it.
- Don't touch more complex objects for up to one month after change by
another mapper.
- Consider to contact the mapper at least for complex objects.

Improvements of these rules are highly welcome. Don't wait one month in this
case ;)

Happy mapping
Willi


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