Re: [OSM-talk] pic4review | Re: 140 000 shops of unspecified type

2019-03-15 Thread PanierAvide

Hello,

Great to see Pic4Review being used :-) Note that missions can be 
configured with ready-to-use answers, mission creator set the possible 
answers (one per shop=* value, picture/symbol can be associated) so that 
contributors don't need to write shop value themselves when reviewing. 
This can take few minutes to configure for mission creator, but make 
task really easier / faster for contributors. I can provide some help if 
needed.


Regards,

Adrien P.

Le 15/03/2019 à 12:52, Rory McCann a écrit :

On 15/03/2019 11:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

how to find it?

JOSM validator since latest released version complains about shop=yes -
just download data and run validator

Osmose has support for displaying JOSM validator complaints
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/#item=9002&level=1%2C2%2C3&tags=&fixable= 


shows JOSM deprecation warnings

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/H0S - you can navigate to your area and 
press run


pic4review ( https://pic4review.pavie.info/ ) is a new editor which 
uses Mapillary & OpenStreetCam to make targetted edits to OSM objects. 
I've been exploring it for changing shop=yes tags and it's pretty useful.


This is for Dublin, but you can duplicate it elsewhere 
https://pic4review.pavie.info/#/mission/417


With street level imagery like that, remote mapping is much more 
reliable.


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Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-09-27 Thread PanierAvide

Hello,

Thank you for this query, which will be very useful for detecting these 
issues. I'm not sure if this is possible in the current state of 
Wikidata, but can't we retrieve all shop chains brands, and then query 
OSM to find object having wikidata tag pointing to one of the brands ? 
If data is structured enough on Wikidata side, we would have a better 
way to retrieve more of the OSM issues.


Regards,

Adrien.


Le 27/09/2017 à 00:47, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit :
Here is a query that finds all wikidata IDs frequently used in 
"brand:wikidata", and shows OSM objects whose "wikidata" points to the 
same. I would like to replace all such wikidata/wikipedia tags with 
the corresponding brand:wikidata/brand:wikipedia.  Most of them are in 
India, but there are some in Europe and other places.  This query can 
be used directly from JOSM as well.


http://tinyurl.com/y72afjpy

BTW, this type of queries might be good for maproulette challenges 
once they can work more like osmose.


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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-22 Thread PanierAvide
+1, taking pictures for Mapillary or OpenStreetCam is not really 
competiting with time for OSM contribution. Moreover, I gave a talk 
about using street-level imagery for contributing to OSM [1] to this 
year State of the Map. Clearly, pictures taken by other people allowed 
me to spend hours contributing remotely, which I could'nt have done 
without this data source (as my city is already pretty well mapped).



> For new contributors, the recommendations feel a bit too focused on
> niche use cases, and not enough on core OSM. When people have a few
> hours or days to spare and want to contribute to OSM, then I would
> almost always recommend that they start mapping in their local area
> using iD or JOSM (depending on computer skills).

Well, we can also add traditionnal OSM editors in the list ;-) But the 
original idea was to make people discover new thematic tools. I think 
when someone introduce you to OSM, the person always mention mainstream 
editors. And if you have any idea of interesting tools for less "niche" 
cases, let me know.



> Something else to consider is that "outside" and "remotely" does not
> cover the entire OSM experience. In fact, the traditional way to
> contribute is to collect data outside, and enter it back at home. Right
> now, that's not an option with your tool.

In fact we already manage tools working in both cases (working both on 
desktop and smartphone, like OSM notes). And for applications needing 
ground data but only working on desktop, even if it's not explicit in 
the app, if you don't have info then you will instinctively go find it 
on the ground. Like OpenBeerMap, it doesn't work well on smartphone, so 
you will mainly use it on desktop. But if you can't remember which beer 
is served on a given pub, the best solution is to go buy some by 
yourself and then input data (be careful of drunk data) :-)



> Hope this mail doesn't come across as too negative! I mostly focussed on
> potential improvements rather than the things that worked fine for me
> (i.e. everything not mentioned here).

No worries, as long as it is constructive, it's good to have the 
feedback ;-)


Regards,

Adrien.

[1] http://my.pavie.info/ftp/p4c-sotm-2017/diapo.pdf



Le 22/09/2017 à 12:11, Jo a écrit :
I don't really mind having Mapillary in there, but if you do, you'd 
have to mention OpenStreetCam as well, of course.


When I go out to survey using making Mapillary pictures, it's true I'm 
not adding data using Vespucci or Walking Papers, but I wouldn't do 
those things anyway.


Making automated picture sequences doesn't really get in the way of 
what I'm actuallly doing, cycling, or walking.


When couch mapping they are often really handy to have and work with, 
so I definitely helps us. Aerial imagery is great, but even at high 
resolution it's not possible to see every detail on it.


Jo

2017-09-22 11:57 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr <mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de>>:


On 21.09.2017 19 :45, PanierAvide wrote:
> http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/
<http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/>

This may be controversial, but I don't think a guide for people
considering to contribute to OSM should send them away to Mapillary.
They aren't part of OSM proper and arguably compete with us for
volunteer time. Mapillary let us use their images, of course, but they
have that in common with a lot of other orgs that no one would mistake
for being part of the OSM project.

> It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented
ones, who
> don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood.

For new contributors, the recommendations feel a bit too focused on
niche use cases, and not enough on core OSM. When people have a few
hours or days to spare and want to contribute to OSM, then I would
almost always recommend that they start mapping in their local area
using iD or JOSM (depending on computer skills).

Something else to consider is that "outside" and "remotely" does not
cover the entire OSM experience. In fact, the traditional way to
contribute is to collect data outside, and enter it back at home.
Right
now, that's not an option with your tool.

Hope this mail doesn't come across as too negative! I mostly
focussed on
potential improvements rather than the things that worked fine for me
(i.e. everything not mentioned here).

Tobias


 It might be
> interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User
> interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.
>
> This project is open source and is available on this repository :
>
> https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM
<https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM>
 

Re: [OSM-talk] Which tool for OSM, a guide for contribution tools (was WhatOSM)

2017-09-22 Thread PanierAvide

Hello,

Everyone concerned by naming issues might be interested to know that 
name was changed into "Which tool for OSM ?" in user interface and 
documentation. Also, a clear disclaimer was added into the repository 
README about the absence of link with OSMF. I hope this is enough for 
complying with future trademark policy.


Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 19:45, PanierAvide a écrit :

Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing various 
thematic editing and contribution. Every contributor can find 
something to do, however when you are new to this world, you don't 
where these tools are and which one is made for you.


In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools, and find 
the ones according to what you want to work on, I made a little web 
guide named WhatOSM. When answering three questions (level of 
difficulty, available time and if you are indoors/outdoors), you have 
a list of corresponding tools. You can try it here :


http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/

It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented ones, 
who don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood. It might be 
interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User 
interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.


This project is open source and is available on this repository :

https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow contributing 
more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you speak English + 
another language, you can help translating the application :


https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.




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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-22 Thread PanierAvide

Hello,

Thanks for this idea. In fact these videos can have an interesting value 
for mapping. I opened an issue on the repository : 
https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/Pic4Carto.js/issues/33


I'm not very sure yet how to query Wikimedia Commons to retrieve these 
videos, I have to read some docs ! :-)


Regards,

Adrien.


Le 22/09/2017 à 08:12, Oleksiy Muzalyev a écrit :

Good morning Adrien,

I have an idea how to improve it. For example, for this lake 
http://projets.pavie.info/pic4carto/index.html?from=1490466554238#17/46.35173/6.79455

I see three photos from Wikimedia category all right.

But I do not see the 1 minute 19 seconds video of this lake in .webm 
format, which is also in the lake's Wikimeida category and which was 
published on the same date with these photos:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lac_de_Lovenex

The video files has got the correct coordinates, the same as photos, - 
I just verified it.


I checked with another places, which have a video, for instance 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac_de_Salanfe . And videos are not 
shown on the Pic4Carto. A short HD or 4K video, especially filmed in 
good light conditions from the air, provides a lot of details about a 
place, what could be sometimes very useful for mapping. By the way, 
Google Maps recently also announced that short videos, up to 30 
seconds could be added to its commercial map.


Wikimedia accepts videos only in free .webm format ( 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebM ).


Best regards,
Oleksiy

On 21.09.17 21:03, PanierAvide wrote:

Thank you, let me know if you have any ideas to improve it :-)

Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 20:53, Oleksiy Muzalyev a écrit :

Hi Adrien,

I tested the Pic4Carto application on photos which I added recently 
to Wikimedia. It works just fine. Very impressive. I will 
definitively use it.


Best regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 157, Issue 41

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide
Thanks for making this clear. I opened an issue on the repository, and 
will change the name soon accordingly. I hope that, when trademark 
policy will be stable, we will have a comprehensive, non-lawyer, 
developer-friendly documentation about possible uses. Nice-to-have 
feature: a website where you put the name you want to use, and it says 
if it's OK or not ;-)


Regards,

Adrien.

Le 22/09/2017 à 00:41, Kathleen Lu a écrit :
With nominative fair use, you don't need to ask permission, which is 
easier for everyone. An example of nominative fair use would be 
calling the tool "What?, a guide tool for OSM" (fairly describing the 
software's relationship to OSM)


And example of a disclaimer would be a simple statement in the website 
or readme along the lines of "This tool is not an official OSMF 
product, and it is neither endorsed nor sponsored by OSMF."


-Kathleen



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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide

Thank you, let me know if you have any ideas to improve it :-)

Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 20:53, Oleksiy Muzalyev a écrit :

Hi Adrien,

I tested the Pic4Carto application on photos which I added recently to 
Wikimedia. It works just fine. Very impressive. I will definitively 
use it.


Best regards,
Oleksiy




On 21.09.17 19:45, PanierAvide wrote:

Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing various 
thematic editing and contribution. Every contributor can find 
something to do, however when you are new to this world, you don't 
where these tools are and which one is made for you.


In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools, and find 
the ones according to what you want to work on, I made a little web 
guide named WhatOSM. When answering three questions (level of 
difficulty, available time and if you are indoors/outdoors), you have 
a list of corresponding tools. You can try it here :


http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/

It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented ones, 
who don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood. It might be 
interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User 
interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.


This project is open source and is available on this repository :

https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow contributing 
more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you speak English + 
another language, you can help translating the application :


https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.





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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide
I was reading the famous policy. If I understand well, I cannot name 
without authorization the project WhatOSM (meaning that I can still ask 
for authorization ?). But if I name it "What ? OSM !" it is OK, because 
it doesn't mix OSM with the name, and it uses OSM word mark correctly ?


Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 20:28, Simon Poole a écrit :


They are

a) not copyrighted

b the TM policy will allow certain community use of the trademarks 
that previously was not clearly permitted and defines going forward 
what is acceptable and what not.


That said, for the reasons mentioned in the policy, you should avoid 
*OSM* names. Not to mention that on more general principles they are 
not a good idea.


Simon


On 21.09.2017 19:53, James wrote:
You might want to reconsider the name as you started this project 2 
weeks ago and XYZosm or osmXYZ or OpenXYZMap are "copyrighted" and 
goes against the new usage policy.


On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, PanierAvide <mailto:panierav...@riseup.net>> wrote:


Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing various
thematic editing and contribution. Every contributor can find
something to do, however when you are new to this world, you
don't where these tools are and which one is made for you.

In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools, and
find the ones according to what you want to work on, I made a
little web guide named WhatOSM. When answering three questions
(level of difficulty, available time and if you are
indoors/outdoors), you have a list of corresponding tools. You
can try it here :

http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/
<http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/>

It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented
ones, who don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood.
It might be interested to show this to people when doing mapping
parties. User interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.

This project is open source and is available on this repository :

https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM
<https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM>

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow
contributing more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you
speak English + another language, you can help translating the
application :

https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/
<https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/>

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.

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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide
As this is new, is there a dedicated email contact to reach people 
handling this ?


Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 20:17, James a écrit :
You would need to get approval from the OSMF if you wanted to still 
keep WhatOSM


On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:14 PM, PanierAvide <mailto:panierav...@riseup.net>> wrote:


Thanks for pointing this out. I'm clearly not an expert of legal
issues, so the following may probably not make sense.


The goal of this tool is to help new contributors, and making them
more easily start contributing to OSM. If we give it an obscure
name, not referring to OSM, then where is the link between this
tool and OSM ? I understand legal issues, but I hope that we don't
loose of sight that we are a community project, and we need some
form of cohesion. Our tools don't share so much except that they
edit OSM data or help people doing so. According to this policy,
JOSM should have been named instead "Java Editor for
you-know-which-map-I'm-talking-about" ? Doesn't make sense to me.

However, if there is a way to keep the name and sign some sort of
contract, implying that I will not misuse the name or so, no
problem, that would be fair. But let's keep the fun in creating
tools for OSM, and not being able to name it using OSM is clearly
boring plus misleading for users.


Thanks for reading this nonsense, I'm totally open to find a way
to solve this potential naming issue, if someone can give me some
hints about it, it would be great.

Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 19:53, James a écrit :

You might want to reconsider the name as you started this project
2 weeks ago and XYZosm or osmXYZ or OpenXYZMap are "copyrighted"
and goes against the new usage policy.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, PanierAvide
mailto:panierav...@riseup.net>> wrote:

Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing
various thematic editing and contribution. Every contributor
can find something to do, however when you are new to this
world, you don't where these tools are and which one is made
for you.

In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools,
and find the ones according to what you want to work on, I
made a little web guide named WhatOSM. When answering three
questions (level of difficulty, available time and if you are
indoors/outdoors), you have a list of corresponding tools.
You can try it here :

http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/
<http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/>

It can be used by new contributors, but also more
experimented ones, who don't know what to do anymore in their
neighbourhood. It might be interested to show this to people
when doing mapping parties. User interface works as well on
desktop as on smartphone.

This project is open source and is available on this repository :

https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM
<https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM>

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow
contributing more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if
you speak English + another language, you can help
translating the application :

https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/
<https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/>

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.

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Re: [OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide
Thanks for pointing this out. I'm clearly not an expert of legal issues, 
so the following may probably not make sense.



The goal of this tool is to help new contributors, and making them more 
easily start contributing to OSM. If we give it an obscure name, not 
referring to OSM, then where is the link between this tool and OSM ? I 
understand legal issues, but I hope that we don't loose of sight that we 
are a community project, and we need some form of cohesion. Our tools 
don't share so much except that they edit OSM data or help people doing 
so. According to this policy, JOSM should have been named instead "Java 
Editor for you-know-which-map-I'm-talking-about" ? Doesn't make sense to me.


However, if there is a way to keep the name and sign some sort of 
contract, implying that I will not misuse the name or so, no problem, 
that would be fair. But let's keep the fun in creating tools for OSM, 
and not being able to name it using OSM is clearly boring plus 
misleading for users.



Thanks for reading this nonsense, I'm totally open to find a way to 
solve this potential naming issue, if someone can give me some hints 
about it, it would be great.


Regards,

Adrien.


Le 21/09/2017 à 19:53, James a écrit :
You might want to reconsider the name as you started this project 2 
weeks ago and XYZosm or osmXYZ or OpenXYZMap are "copyrighted" and 
goes against the new usage policy.


On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, PanierAvide <mailto:panierav...@riseup.net>> wrote:


Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing various
thematic editing and contribution. Every contributor can find
something to do, however when you are new to this world, you don't
where these tools are and which one is made for you.

In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools, and
find the ones according to what you want to work on, I made a
little web guide named WhatOSM. When answering three questions
(level of difficulty, available time and if you are
indoors/outdoors), you have a list of corresponding tools. You can
try it here :

http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/
<http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/>

It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented
ones, who don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood. It
might be interested to show this to people when doing mapping
parties. User interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.

This project is open source and is available on this repository :

    https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM
<https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM>

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow
contributing more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you
speak English + another language, you can help translating the
application :

https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/
<https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/>

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.

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[OSM-talk] WhatOSM, a guide for contribution tools

2017-09-21 Thread PanierAvide

Hi everyone,

As you may know, OSM has a whole set of tools allowing various thematic 
editing and contribution. Every contributor can find something to do, 
however when you are new to this world, you don't where these tools are 
and which one is made for you.


In order to make it easier discovering contribution tools, and find the 
ones according to what you want to work on, I made a little web guide 
named WhatOSM. When answering three questions (level of difficulty, 
available time and if you are indoors/outdoors), you have a list of 
corresponding tools. You can try it here :


http://projets.pavie.info/whatosm/

It can be used by new contributors, but also more experimented ones, who 
don't know what to do anymore in their neighbourhood. It might be 
interested to show this to people when doing mapping parties. User 
interface works as well on desktop as on smartphone.


This project is open source and is available on this repository :

https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/WhatOSM

You can contribute to it by proposing tools which allow contributing 
more or less directly to OpenStreetMap. Also, if you speak English + 
another language, you can help translating the application :


https://www.transifex.com/openlevelup/whatosm/

If you have any ideas or suggestions, let me know :-)

Regards,

Adrien.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Pic4Carto: efficient pictures viewer for micro-mapping

2016-11-27 Thread PanierAvide

Hello,

Is the loading difficult for every area or just a particular one ? Maybe 
there are a lot of pictures, and as Pic4Carto requests 100 pictures per 
HTTP request for a given provider, it's possible that there are a lot 
for requests running for retrieving all the pictures metadata.


Cordially.


Le 26/11/2016 à 18:38, Greg Morgan a écrit :

PanierAvide,

That's very nice.  Your system takes 100 pounds of pain out of using 
Mapillary.  There seems to be a few missing items but I cannot put my 
finger on them.  The simplicity is Pic4Carto's best feature.


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[OSM-talk] Pic4Carto: efficient pictures viewer for micro-mapping

2016-11-15 Thread PanierAvide

Hi everyone,

There are more and more street-view pictures which are under open 
license (Mapillary, Wikimedia Commons, Flickr, and OpenStreetView which 
is changing its name). These pictures are a gold mine containing a lot 
of interesting informations for OpenStreetMap, however they are not 
fully used yet. Maybe one explanation of this is that every source has 
its own web portal, not always simple to use or fast to load.


In order to get the best of all pictures, I created a tool to help 
mappers named Pic4Carto. It allows to see all recent pictures from 
Mapillary, Flickr and Wikimedia Commons, on a given area, as a slideshow 
(pictures showing one by one automatically). The goal is to watch fast 
all the data on the area, to discover features we want to add in 
OpenStreetMap (for example benches, fire hydrants, billboards, maxspeed 
signs...). The tool is available here :


http://projets.pavie.info/pic4carto/

It's an open-source software (under AGPL license), source code is 
available on Framagit :


https://framagit.org/PanierAvide/Pic4Carto

Don't hesitate to make any suggests, report bugs of share any idea for 
improvements ;-)


Cordially.

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Géomaticien & développeur


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[OSM-talk] OpenRandomMap

2016-01-23 Thread PanierAvide

Hello everyone,

The OSM project is associated to many tools and online maps, most of the 
time useful, about various themes. For example, we have OpenSeaMap, 
OpenCycleMap, OpenBeerMap, OpenSolarMap, OpenEvacMap, OpenLoveMap, 
OpenTopoMap, OpenEventMap, ...


In order to help the community and make it develop even more interesting 
projects, I just released OpenRandomMap : a name generator for open 
online maps. The goal is to give ideas to all developers in the 
community, and let them create new amazing maps. You can use it here :

http://github.pavie.info/openrandommap/

It is released under AGPL v3 license, on GitHub :
https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/openrandommap 



I hope we will see soon some new "OpenIceMachineMap" or 
"OpenPrincipleOfEquivalenceMap" ;)


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[OSM-talk] YoHours: opening_hours viewer and editor

2015-08-21 Thread panieravide
 
Hello,

I recently released a new version of YoHours, a website which allows
everyone to create and view opening hours in the OSM syntax. It now
supports seasons-dependent hours (month, week, day, holiday selectors). 

It's available here:
http://github.pavie.info/yohours/ 

The code is available on GitHub: 
https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/yohours
[1] 

If you have any suggestions, let me know :) 

Cordially, 

PanierAvide. 
 

Links:
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https://github.com/PanierAvide/panieravide.github.io/tree/master/yohours
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