[OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel A Carleton
Hello All,

I'm trying to evaluate what street map dataset to go with for a web
application.  I appreciate the features in the OSM data that would
otherwise go overlooked by big commercial products.  e.g. Trails and
such.  Also the affordability!  There is substantial risk, though,
because the TIGER data is not sufficient, and I don't know how active
the OSM mapping community is in my area.

Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users in my
area?  I live in Seattle, WA USA.  Seems like most of you folks are in
Europe.

Thanks,

- Daniel

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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
Sure.  Go to www.itoworld.com, sign up for an account, and then look  
at OSM Mapper.  Create an "Area" for your area of interest and look to  
see how many users there are and over what time period they've been  
active.  BTW, DaveHansen did the TIGER import.  You could help start  
up some mappers in your area, y'know.

On Mar 10, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Daniel A Carleton wrote:
> Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users in my
> area?  I live in Seattle, WA USA.  Seems like most of you folks are in
> Europe.
>

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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Daniel A Carleton <
daniel.carle...@exaptic.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I'm trying to evaluate what street map dataset to go with for a web
> application.  I appreciate the features in the OSM data that would
> otherwise go overlooked by big commercial products.  e.g. Trails and
> such.  Also the affordability!  There is substantial risk, though,
> because the TIGER data is not sufficient, and I don't know how active
> the OSM mapping community is in my area.
>
> Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users in my
> area?  I live in Seattle, WA USA.  Seems like most of you folks are in
> Europe.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Daniel
>

There's a pretty good community in the US, too (although not nearly as
prolific as the Germans). To monitor activity I'd suggest you go to
www.itoworld.com and sign up to monitor an area you're interested in. The
"sessions" view will give you an idea about recent activity. Also, if you
set a location on your OSM profile, you can see other nearby users who have
given their location as well.

Karl
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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Ed Loach
Hi Daniel,

> Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users
> in my
> area?  I live in Seattle, WA USA.  Seems like most of you folks
> are in
> Europe.

There is also a talk-us list you might want to investigate, and a
brief entry on the OSM wiki for Seattle:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seattle
naming a few users who have been active in the area.

Hope that helps a bit

Ed



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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel A Carleton
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Ed Loach  wrote:
> There is also a talk-us list you might want to investigate, and a
> brief entry on the OSM wiki for Seattle:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seattle
> naming a few users who have been active in the area.

Great, thanks everyone!  Actually looks like Seattle is pretty active.
 My application needs routing, and so I guess my next step is to
determine the state of e.g. one-way street attribution that isn't
present in the Tiger data.

- Daniel

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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson

On Mar 10, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Daniel A Carleton wrote:
> f e.g. one-way street attribution that isn't
> present in the Tiger data.

That can be fixed in a single day: drive down every road with a GPS  
receiver, and take a waypoint in the middle of the block of every one- 
way road.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-11 Thread Gregory Williams
Daniel,

One easy solution would be to sign up for a free OSM Mapper account from
ITO World:

http://www.itoworld.com/static/osmmapper

This'll allow you to view changes and additions to the data on a map for
an area that you choose from which you'll be able to judge the level of
activity.

Cheers,

Gregory

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> boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Daniel A Carleton
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> Subject: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I'm trying to evaluate what street map dataset to go with for a web
> application.  I appreciate the features in the OSM data that would
> otherwise go overlooked by big commercial products.  e.g. Trails and
> such.  Also the affordability!  There is substantial risk, though,
> because the TIGER data is not sufficient, and I don't know how active
> the OSM mapping community is in my area.
> 
> Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users in my
> area?  I live in Seattle, WA USA.  Seems like most of you folks are in
> Europe.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Daniel
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-11 Thread Gary G:
If you are interested in more details you can use the tool osmdiff here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmdiff
I might be able to set up a regular report for a reasonable sized area for you.
 
gary68
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Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-12 Thread Gregory Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Miller [mailto:petermille...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 11 March 2009 14:00
> To: Gregory Williams
> Cc: Daniel A Carleton; talk@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?
> 
> 
> On 11 Mar 2009, at 09:16, Gregory Williams wrote:
> 
> > Daniel,
> >
> > One easy solution would be to sign up for a free OSM Mapper account
> > from
> > ITO World:
> >
> > http://www.itoworld.com/static/osmmapper
> >
> > This'll allow you to view changes and additions to the data on a map
> > for
> > an area that you choose from which you'll be able to judge the level
> > of
> > activity.
> 
> Fyi, we recently upgraded OSM Mapper and increased the area which can
> be monitored at one time so do try creating some bigger areas!
> 
> Do note however that our product only shows who the 'last' person to
> touch the way was. It is very possibly that in some areas there are
> major 'hidden' contributors and see the open question to the lawyers
> on how we should deal with ways touched by multiple people, only some
> of whom are contactable or who sign up to the new license.
>
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Open_Issues#Featur
>
es_touched_by_multiple_contributors.2C_not_all_of_whom_sign_up_to_new_t
> erms
> 
> That being said, it would be a really good idea for people to know who
> the current contributors in their area are and to get into contact
> with them. I am doing that in my area for sure.

Yes, certainly in my area I've been adding extra levels of detail (such
as maxspeed, maxweight, motorcar=destination, etc.) to ways mapped by
others. So viewing those areas will show my name as the most recent
contributor, but I didn't go down all of those roads originally.

There are also a few places where I've fixed the topology (several
almost-connecting ways when I know that they do connect in reality). So,
again, I'm listed at the most recent contributor when in reality the
majority of the work there was done by someone else.

So, it's not necessarily so easy to see who the major contributor to the
data is. However it would give Daniel a good idea of whether the data is
being actively maintained, which I think was the gist of the question.

Gregory

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