Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Alejandro S.]

They are develeoped by the same entrprise, Niantic, all the pokestops and
gyms are the portals mpped by users in Ingress

Atentamente,
  Alejandro Suárez

On 14 July 2016 at 15:29, Blake Girardot  wrote:

> Hi Polyglot,
>
> Have you seen the mobile game "Ingress"  https://www.ingress.com/
>
> That is an augmented reality, outdoor game related to mapping somehow.
> I am seeing it mentioned in relation to this new pokemon game too, not
> sure how they are related.
>
> It was also developed by a subsidiary of google so I am sure someone
> has contemplated how it might be used to improve map data.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingress_(video_game)
>
> I do not know exactly how it is played, but there are portals which
> are typically PoI's and businesses (part of the funding model).
>
> But ingress looked like a great app to help with OSM mapping in some
> parts of the world if it could be adapted or partnered with.
>
> Now how you go about getting the exposure and network effect of
> something like pokemon, that is a different story. Ingress looks super
> cool and has been around for 4 years and I bet almost no one has heard
> of it. (note they claim 7 million players, but i wonder is that is 7
> million signups really)
>
> cheers
> blake
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Jo  wrote:
> > I'm not playing the game, as it would get in the way of making Mapillary
> > pictures...
> > If you could convince the creators of the game to include making pictures
> > (and sending them out when back on wifi) to gain extra points of spots
> where
> > we need such pictures, then yes. Without their cooperation, you'd need to
> > convince them to install another app and it wouldn't make the players win
> > extra points in the Pokemon game, so I don't think they'd be very
> > interested.
> >
> > Now, if we could launch a game of our own and hype that...
> >
> > Polyglot
> >
> > 2016-07-14 13:46 GMT+02:00 Svavar Kjarrval :
> >>
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
> >> spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
> >> some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
> >> opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
> >> the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
> >> playing the game anyway.
> >>
> >> I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted to
> >> bring this point forward.
> >>
> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go
> >>
> >> With regards,
> >> Svavar Kjarrval
> >>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Polyglot,

Have you seen the mobile game "Ingress"  https://www.ingress.com/

That is an augmented reality, outdoor game related to mapping somehow.
I am seeing it mentioned in relation to this new pokemon game too, not
sure how they are related.

It was also developed by a subsidiary of google so I am sure someone
has contemplated how it might be used to improve map data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingress_(video_game)

I do not know exactly how it is played, but there are portals which
are typically PoI's and businesses (part of the funding model).

But ingress looked like a great app to help with OSM mapping in some
parts of the world if it could be adapted or partnered with.

Now how you go about getting the exposure and network effect of
something like pokemon, that is a different story. Ingress looks super
cool and has been around for 4 years and I bet almost no one has heard
of it. (note they claim 7 million players, but i wonder is that is 7
million signups really)

cheers
blake

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Jo  wrote:
> I'm not playing the game, as it would get in the way of making Mapillary
> pictures...
> If you could convince the creators of the game to include making pictures
> (and sending them out when back on wifi) to gain extra points of spots where
> we need such pictures, then yes. Without their cooperation, you'd need to
> convince them to install another app and it wouldn't make the players win
> extra points in the Pokemon game, so I don't think they'd be very
> interested.
>
> Now, if we could launch a game of our own and hype that...
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-07-14 13:46 GMT+02:00 Svavar Kjarrval :
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
>> spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
>> some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
>> opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
>> the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
>> playing the game anyway.
>>
>> I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted to
>> bring this point forward.
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go
>>
>> With regards,
>> Svavar Kjarrval
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Jóhannes Birgir Jensson]

We have avoided PokeStops and Gyms being added to OSM in Iceland by 
releasing a crowd sourced Google Map instead (not original by us but we 
now point people to it and I've been adding some there myself). The game 
hasn't been released yet officially in Iceland but that hasn't been an 
issue for the thousands playing it.


The Icelandic Pokémon map: 
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1cTBfluTIInZhyDLu_tOID36uiyQ



Þann 14.07.2016 12:10, Philip Barnes reit:

I have already reverted some poke stops and gyms, and that was before
it was released. Now its been released,,today in the UK,  we need to
watch for this type of edit.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Svavar Kjarrval]

It doesn't have to be a part of the app itself nor harvest data from it.
Unless you're referring to some other method of possible infringement.

There might be some existing OSM contributers who might be
reminded/encouraged to use those walks to do something useful for OSM
too. For example the idea brought forward earlier of resolving notes,
taking pictures of the surrounding area, and so on. The pictures could
even be GPS tagged (if the user wishes) since the GPS chip is already
active.

- Svavar Kjarrval

On fim 14.júl 2016 12:31, Simon Poole wrote:
>
> Without a version that actually uses OSM data, I suspect the
> non-infringing bit might be a bit iffy. And naturally the goog 
> Alphabet is likely already contemplating how to harness Pokémon Go for
> contributions to gmaps.
>
> Simon
>



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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Simon Poole]

Am 14.07.2016 um 13:46 schrieb Svavar Kjarrval:
> I'm wondering if there might be
> opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
> the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
> playing the game anyway.
Without a version that actually uses OSM data, I suspect the
non-infringing bit might be a bit iffy. And naturally the goog 
Alphabet is likely already contemplating how to harness Pokémon Go for
contributions to gmaps.

Simon



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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Philip Barnes]

I have already reverted some poke stops and gyms, and that was before it was 
released. Now its been released,,today in the UK,  we need to watch for this 
type of edit.

Phil (trigpoint)

On Thu Jul 14 12:57:26 2016 GMT+0100, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote:
> I've wondered about it but doubt it. The Pokémon Go app needs to be in 
> the foreground to work whilst we would want them to swap over to Maps.me 
> (ease of use), Vespucci, OsmAnd or other app editors on occassions.
> 
> Best bet would maybe be some Field Papers thing?
> 
> --Jói
> 
> Þann 14.07.2016 11:46, Svavar Kjarrval reit:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
> > spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
> > some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
> > opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
> > the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
> > playing the game anyway.
> > 
> > I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted 
> > to
> > bring this point forward.
> > 
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go
> > 
> > With regards,
> > Svavar Kjarrval
> > 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Jo]

I'm not playing the game, as it would get in the way of making Mapillary
pictures...
If you could convince the creators of the game to include making pictures
(and sending them out when back on wifi) to gain extra points of spots
where we need such pictures, then yes. Without their cooperation, you'd
need to convince them to install another app and it wouldn't make the
players win extra points in the Pokemon game, so I don't think they'd be
very interested.

Now, if we could launch a game of our own and hype that...

Polyglot

2016-07-14 13:46 GMT+02:00 Svavar Kjarrval :

> Hi.
>
> Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
> spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
> some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
> opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
> the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
> playing the game anyway.
>
> I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted to
> bring this point forward.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go
>
> With regards,
> Svavar Kjarrval
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Barry Hunter]

Maybe a mobile app, could be running in the background. It checks the
current status of the local area in OSM, and pops up a notification if the
there are problems*.

Things like
* There doesnt seem to be many features mapped in the local area, does*
this map* match what you see around you?
* This area was last updated over 2 years ago, please compare *this map*,
and see if it matches what you see around you.
* Someone made a *note *nearby, are you available to check it out?


Where 'this map' is a link to a map of the local area. Would possibly need
a bit of an AI, to avoid over 'nagging' the user. Tries a few trial
notifications, if the user responces, show more. If not show less. Adapts
to the user activity.






On 14 July 2016 at 12:46, Svavar Kjarrval  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
> spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
> some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
> opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
> the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
> playing the game anyway.
>
> I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted to
> bring this point forward.
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go
>
> With regards,
> Svavar Kjarrval
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Jóhannes Birgir Jensson]

I've wondered about it but doubt it. The Pokémon Go app needs to be in 
the foreground to work whilst we would want them to swap over to Maps.me 
(ease of use), Vespucci, OsmAnd or other app editors on occassions.


Best bet would maybe be some Field Papers thing?

--Jói

Þann 14.07.2016 11:46, Svavar Kjarrval reit:

Hi.

Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
playing the game anyway.

I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted 
to

bring this point forward.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go

With regards,
Svavar Kjarrval


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[OSM-talk] Can we utilise the popularity of Pokémon Go for OSM?

[Svavar Kjarrval]

Hi.

Now that Pokémon Go[1] is gaining popularity, people in general will
spend more time outside walking around with their phone in hand (and
some with mobile USB chargers). I'm wondering if there might be
opportunities for OpenStreetMap to utilise that activity to encourage
the gamers to collect (non-infringing) data for OSM while they're
playing the game anyway.

I'm not claiming I have any specific ideas at this point. Just wanted to
bring this point forward.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Go

With regards,
Svavar Kjarrval



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