Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
Hello, To warm up the topic again... I made one relation for a few of the cycle routes of the town Nidderau. Those are somehow official routes with signs along the way that show a little bicycle, so you know where to turn and from time to time bigger signs that show the directions to the different towns/villages that the current track will lead to. The ways that those routes are on vary widely, from a small track that is under 1m wide up to main roads through towns. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/26606 Here is the relation I did so far. I tagged it as Local cycle network, even though I would think that I would need another category under this one.. maybe something like ucn for micro cycle network ? ciao Florian Raphael Studer wrote: I have a map from the local authorities with very short cycle routes that lead from one village to another. They mostly use those tracks. Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route (maybe 2-5km long) or is there a better way to handle this ? If the ways are tracks, then tag them as tracks :) Creating routes (as realtions) for cyclenetworks is verry common. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Routes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Cycle_routes Regards, Raphael ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
Hello, my first post here :) for a small introduction, I bought a nüvi a few weeks ago, got addicted, found out about openstreetmap, needed a device that could record traces and now own a Vista Hcx and am happy with it.. Now I am cycling around the area here and am trying to improve the cycle network as I see it as an unique application that is hard to match with other (commercial) products. So I found out about how to make relations.. just select everything you want, set the proper tags and there you go.. I also tagged a longer relation already with maybe 30km. Now comes the question :) Many of the cycle routes in the area are not running on dedicated cycle-ways. Most of them use wirtschaftswege, small roads that are usually forbidden for motor traffic, but farmers are allowed to use them. When you enter such a way the sign in front of it usually says no passing for motor vehicles, farming vehicles and bikes allowed. My understanding is that such a way should be tagged as track with a grade. I have a map from the local authorities with very short cycle routes that lead from one village to another. They mostly use those tracks. Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route (maybe 2-5km long) or is there a better way to handle this ? ciao Florian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
Hi, My understanding is that such a way should be tagged as track with a grade. Many people (at least in Germany) seem to use track whenever it's large enough to accomodate a 4 wheel vehicle, and cycleway only if it's really a designated cycleway that cannot be used for anything else. Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route (maybe 2-5km long) or is there a better way to handle this ? I think bicycles are by default assumed allowed on highway=track so if the only information you want to convey is that these tracks are used by cyclists then no extra tagging/relations required. Use relations only if you have a named/signed/well established route. For issues specific to Germany's system of roads and ways, also check out the talk-de list. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
Hi, In Switzerland there are a lot of these roads too (called Feldwege instead of Wirtschaftwege). I use the following tag set: highway=track grade=whatever grade is best (I often omitt this tag) motorcar=destination(if the signposts read Zubringerdienst gestattet - could be a Helvetism, though) motorcycle=destination (if the signposts read Zubringerdienst gestattet - could be a Helvetism, though) bicycle=yes agricultural=yes(if the signposts read Landwirtschaftliche Fahrzeuge gestattet) Tracks in forests are sometimes allowed for Forstwirtschaftliche Fahrzeuge. There is no corresponding access tag, so, I usually use agricultural=yes by Karl -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Florian Steiper Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. August 2008 22:13 An: talk@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track Hello, my first post here :) for a small introduction, I bought a nüvi a few weeks ago, got addicted, found out about openstreetmap, needed a device that could record traces and now own a Vista Hcx and am happy with it.. Now I am cycling around the area here and am trying to improve the cycle network as I see it as an unique application that is hard to match with other (commercial) products. So I found out about how to make relations.. just select everything you want, set the proper tags and there you go.. I also tagged a longer relation already with maybe 30km. Now comes the question :) Many of the cycle routes in the area are not running on dedicated cycle-ways. Most of them use wirtschaftswege, small roads that are usually forbidden for motor traffic, but farmers are allowed to use them. When you enter such a way the sign in front of it usually says no passing for motor vehicles, farming vehicles and bikes allowed. My understanding is that such a way should be tagged as track with a grade. I have a map from the local authorities with very short cycle routes that lead from one village to another. They mostly use those tracks. Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route (maybe 2-5km long) or is there a better way to handle this ? ciao Florian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
Karl Guggisberg schrieb: motorcar=destination(if the signposts read Zubringerdienst gestattet - could be a Helvetism, though) No, in Germany the sign says Anlieger frei, everyone who has business there may pass. Regards, Florian. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track
doesn't Zubringerdienst correspond to the german Lieferverkehr frei which on the other hand is most often used in (commercial) pedestrian zones Florian Heer schrieb: Karl Guggisberg schrieb: motorcar=destination(if the signposts read Zubringerdienst gestattet - could be a Helvetism, though) No, in Germany the sign says Anlieger frei, everyone who has business there may pass. Regards, Florian. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk begin:vcard fn:Marco Lechner n:Lechner;Marco org;quoted-printable:Uni Freiburg;Institut f=C3=BCr Physische Geographie adr:;;Werthmannstr. 4;Freiburg;;79085;Deutschland email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+49 (0)761/203-3548 tel;fax:+49 (0)761/203-3596 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
