[OSM-talk] Fwd: Boundaries in Haiti

2010-01-16 Thread André Riedel
2010/1/16 Frédéric Bonifas fredericboni...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Based on the data here :
 https://www.geoint-online.net/community/haitiearthquake/default.aspx
 of the US Census Bureau, I extracted the city and town borders for
 Haiti.
 The tags I used are :

 is_in=name of the district
 name=*
 boundary=administrative
 admin_level=8
 source=US Census Bureau
 population=*
 id_commune=ID given in the source file

 The file is here : http://fredericbonifas.free.fr/haiti_boundaries.osm

 Does it seem ok to you before uploading ?
I would prefer to upload the complete borders of haiti with
departements, arrondissements, citys and suburbs. Instead of your
method of on way per city, we should use relations.

 Is there an easy to remove these boundaries if we get better ones later ?
You could easily remove all admin_level=8 ways in certain bbox.

If we want to use this borders, I will create an import file.

Ciao André

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Boundaries in Haiti

2010-01-16 Thread AssetBurned
moin

On 16.01.2010, at 17:16, André Riedel wrote:

 2010/1/16 Frédéric Bonifas fredericboni...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 
 Based on the data here :
 https://www.geoint-online.net/community/haitiearthquake/default.aspx
 of the US Census Bureau, I extracted the city and town borders for
 Haiti.
 The tags I used are :
 
 is_in=name of the district
 name=*
 boundary=administrative
 admin_level=8
 source=US Census Bureau
 population=*
 id_commune=ID given in the source file
 
 The file is here : http://fredericbonifas.free.fr/haiti_boundaries.osm
 
 Does it seem ok to you before uploading ?
 I would prefer to upload the complete borders of haiti with
 departements, arrondissements, citys and suburbs. Instead of your
 method of on way per city, we should use relations.
 
 Is there an easy to remove these boundaries if we get better ones later ?
 You could easily remove all admin_level=8 ways in certain bbox.
 
 If we want to use this borders, I will create an import file.

from what I can see at the moment that is a huge list of dots! Some are 
costline, some are streets, some are rivers evn if I like the idea of 
getting a huge list of points, they should really be checked before importing 
them. I mean the coastline is already mapped for example. and the points there 
are very irritating. 

cu assetburned
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Boundaries in Haiti

2010-01-16 Thread Frédéric Bonifas
Upload is now complete.

If there is a better method, then the only thing to do is to revert
the changeset 3632884 :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3632884

Frédéric

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Boundaries in Haiti

2010-01-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Frédéric Bonifas wrote:
 If there is a better method, then the only thing to do is to revert
 the changeset 3632884 :
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3632884

This import does not meet normal OSM import quality standards and under 
normal circumstances I would probably revert it until someone has the 
time  diligence to do it properly. (The boundaries do not re-use the 
existing coastline but instead duplicate it in a rough form; where tho 
administrative areas meet, ways are not re-used either but duplicated.)

Usually, while we apply the rule better crappy data than no data at 
all for anything surveyed by humans, we are more strict with imports, 
and we ask people to either do it right or leave it for someone who can.

But of course this is an exceptional situation in that many people seem 
to be using the map data *now* rather than some time later when we had 
the time to polish it, so it was probably good to import the data, buggy 
as it is.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Boundaries in Haiti

2010-01-16 Thread Jonas Krückel

Am 16.01.2010 um 20:06 schrieb Frederik Ramm:

 Hi,
 
 Frédéric Bonifas wrote:
 If there is a better method, then the only thing to do is to revert
 the changeset 3632884 :
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3632884
 
 This import does not meet normal OSM import quality standards and under 
 normal circumstances I would probably revert it until someone has the 
 time  diligence to do it properly. (The boundaries do not re-use the 
 existing coastline but instead duplicate it in a rough form; where tho 
 administrative areas meet, ways are not re-used either but duplicated.)
 
 Usually, while we apply the rule better crappy data than no data at 
 all for anything surveyed by humans, we are more strict with imports, 
 and we ask people to either do it right or leave it for someone who can.
 
 But of course this is an exceptional situation in that many people seem 
 to be using the map data *now* rather than some time later when we had 
 the time to polish it, so it was probably good to import the data, buggy 
 as it is.

I agree.
If you can provide a better import, why not just do it (may take some time of 
course) and revert the old import then?

Jonas


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