Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread Heiko Jacobs

Richard Weait schrieb:

Data that is now CC-By-SA will always be CC-By-SA. Currently published planets,

 for example are CC-By-SA and will stay that way.  No data loss.
 The data is still there. Still CC-By-SA.

Yes indeed. Including ...


We'll each choose to allow our data to be promoted to OSM with the
license upgrade, or we will not. 


... the new planet which is called to be under ODBL.

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode

But it isn'nt, because the contributors who said yes for change
don't give their home copy of their data a second time like in

7.b ... Licensor reserves the right to release THE WORK under different
license terms

the work = their original work and not a copy of it.

But the new so called ODBL-OSM is only an vote-yes-extract
of the old CC-OSM so ...

1.b 'Derivative Work' means a work based upon the Work ... such as a
... condensation ...

... is suitable, so ...

4.b You may distribute ... a Derivative Work only under the terms of
this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements
as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same
License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Japan).

... also a so called ODBL-OSM ist still under CC and only under CC.

A real ODBL-OSM can only be build with home copies of the data
of the contributors who said yes. They cannot copy their own edits
from CC-OSM, because this also will be a condensation of CC-OSM ...

Mueck


___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Heiko Jacobs wrote:
 A real ODBL-OSM can only be build with home copies of the 
 data of the contributors who said yes. They cannot copy their 
 own edits from CC-OSM, because this also will be a 
 condensation of CC-OSM ...

So if they violate the licence, they'll be sued by the copyright holder,
right?

I look forward to Richard Fairhurst suing Richard Fairhurst for violating
the license on Richard Fairhurst's data.

*facepalm*

cheers
Richard
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Re-License-Cut-over-and-critical-mass-tp5333864p5333989.html
Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk


Re: [OSM-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-24 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

Richard Fairhurst wrote:

I look forward to Richard Fairhurst suing Richard Fairhurst for violating
the license on Richard Fairhurst's data.


I know that guy. He might be crazy enough to do it. Just to prove a point.

Bye
Frederik

--
Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frede...@remote.org  ##  N49°00'09 E008°23'33

___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk