Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
When I draw footways, I like to connect them to the first crosswalk. That
way a router can route people through a street if there are no drawn
footways, and then cross to a footway at the crosswalk.

2012/9/27 David Turner nova...@novalis.org

 Chicago's pedway system on OSM is a bit wrong -- it's mostly
 disconnected from the rest of the map (check out KeepRight for a bunch
 of orange lightning bolts).  This can cause problems for routers.
 Apparently, Toronto's system has the same issue.

 (I should also note that Chicago doesn't have hour_on and hour_off, but
 that's a different issue).

 I would like to just connect the pedways to the streets that they
 intersect, but that's not physically accurate; in fact, they're through
 buildings (and often down stairs or elevators).  Can anyone suggest a
 better way to map them so that they're accurate yet routable?

 I'm not local to Chicago, so it would be tough for me to go out and
 directly investigate myself.  But I've CC'd a colleague who does live in
 Chicago and whom I might be able to pester to help out when he gets the
 free time.




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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-27 Thread Philip Barnes
 I found similar issues with the cycleway network here in Telford. It had been 
drawn in total isolation to the rest of the map, no joins where it crossed 
roads or footways. I have fixed it now.
 Phil
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On 27/09/2012 4:26 David Turner wrote:

Chicago's pedway system on OSM is a bit wrong -- it's mostly
disconnected from the rest of the map (check out KeepRight for a bunch
of orange lightning bolts). This can cause problems for routers.
Apparently, Toronto's system has the same issue.


(I should also note that Chicago doesn't have hour_on and hour_off, but
that's a different issue).


I would like to just connect the pedways to the streets that they
intersect, but that's not physically accurate; in fact, they're through
buildings (and often down stairs or elevators). Can anyone suggest a
better way to map them so that they're accurate yet routable?


I'm not local to Chicago, so it would be tough for me to go out and
directly investigate myself. But I've CC'd a colleague who does live in
Chicago and whom I might be able to pester to help out when he gets the
free time.




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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-27 Thread Joakim Fors

On 27 sep 2012, at 05:26, David Turner nova...@novalis.org wrote:

 Chicago's pedway system on OSM is a bit wrong -- it's mostly
 disconnected from the rest of the map (check out KeepRight for a bunch
 of orange lightning bolts).  This can cause problems for routers.
 Apparently, Toronto's system has the same issue.
 
 (I should also note that Chicago doesn't have hour_on and hour_off, but
 that's a different issue).  
 
 I would like to just connect the pedways to the streets that they
 intersect, but that's not physically accurate; in fact, they're through
 buildings (and often down stairs or elevators).  Can anyone suggest a
 better way to map them so that they're accurate yet routable?
 

I'd draw an approximation of the stairs inside the buildings connecting one end 
of the stair to the pedway and extending the other end with a footway 
connecting to a sidewalk/highway. Perhaps also adding some building=entrance 
nodes where the connecting footway (not the pedway) intersects building polys.


 I'm not local to Chicago, so it would be tough for me to go out and
 directly investigate myself.  But I've CC'd a colleague who does live in
 Chicago and whom I might be able to pester to help out when he gets the
 free time.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/9/27 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org:
 I'd draw an approximation of the stairs inside the buildings connecting one 
 end of the stair to the pedway and extending the other end with a footway 
 connecting to a sidewalk/highway. Perhaps also adding some building=entrance 
 nodes where the connecting footway (not the pedway) intersects building 
 polys.


for footways inside buildings you could use
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered

and for moving walkways this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Escalators_and_Moving_Walkways

maybe also add fresh_air=no or airconditioning=yes where applicable? ;-)

cheers,
Martin

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[OSM-talk] Mapping Chicago's pedways

2012-09-26 Thread David Turner
Chicago's pedway system on OSM is a bit wrong -- it's mostly
disconnected from the rest of the map (check out KeepRight for a bunch
of orange lightning bolts).  This can cause problems for routers.
Apparently, Toronto's system has the same issue.

(I should also note that Chicago doesn't have hour_on and hour_off, but
that's a different issue).  

I would like to just connect the pedways to the streets that they
intersect, but that's not physically accurate; in fact, they're through
buildings (and often down stairs or elevators).  Can anyone suggest a
better way to map them so that they're accurate yet routable?

I'm not local to Chicago, so it would be tough for me to go out and
directly investigate myself.  But I've CC'd a colleague who does live in
Chicago and whom I might be able to pester to help out when he gets the
free time.




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