Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
On 3/13/09, paul youlten p...@yellowikis.org wrote: Sarah, you could use (or adapt) the Karlsruhe Schema: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Schema As I understand it you make a node _next_ to the way that is the street to show which side of the street it is and tag it with: addr:housenumber = 1939 or if there are multiple apartments at one node or doorway: addr:housenumber = 220a, 222a, 224b, 226b or addr:housenumber = 1 to 550 I'm not sure where you reat the third option. Can you point it out? Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
As I understand the Karlsruhe schema you are allowed to tag addr:housenumbers with non-numeric characters (e.g: 120b) so there is no reason you couldn't tag a node 1 to 500 or 1–500. I suppose you could use addr:housename = 1 to 500 but that seems a bit counter-intuitive. PaulY On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On 3/13/09, paul youlten p...@yellowikis.org wrote: Sarah, you could use (or adapt) the Karlsruhe Schema: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Schema As I understand it you make a node _next_ to the way that is the street to show which side of the street it is and tag it with: addr:housenumber = 1939 or if there are multiple apartments at one node or doorway: addr:housenumber = 220a, 222a, 224b, 226b or addr:housenumber = 1 to 550 I'm not sure where you reat the third option. Can you point it out? Marcus -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
On 3/14/09, paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand the Karlsruhe schema you are allowed to tag addr:housenumbers with non-numeric characters (e.g: 120b) so there is no reason you couldn't tag a node 1 to 500 or 1–500. I suppose you could use addr:housename = 1 to 500 but that seems a bit counter-intuitive. You could but unless anyone writing applications that search for house-numbers know about it your tagging will not be put to use. I`m preparing the proof of concept I wrote in the Karlsruhe meeting to make TS navigate to house numbers just this weekend. It`d not be able to find where house-number 246 was in your example until you pointed out this new semantics in your posting. As fas as I see it`s not yet documented. Is this schema in actual use? Non-numeric characters are for house-numbers that actually contain these characters. Like your 120b- example. Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
MW: ...your tagging will not be put to use ... except by people looking at maps on screen or on paper - who might find it useful. So, as usual, the people writing applications will have to do a little dance with the people tagging nodes with house numbers. :-) PaulY On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On 3/14/09, paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com wrote: As I understand the Karlsruhe schema you are allowed to tag addr:housenumbers with non-numeric characters (e.g: 120b) so there is no reason you couldn't tag a node 1 to 500 or 1–500. I suppose you could use addr:housename = 1 to 500 but that seems a bit counter-intuitive. You could but unless anyone writing applications that search for house-numbers know about it your tagging will not be put to use. I`m preparing the proof of concept I wrote in the Karlsruhe meeting to make TS navigate to house numbers just this weekend. It`d not be able to find where house-number 246 was in your example until you pointed out this new semantics in your posting. As fas as I see it`s not yet documented. Is this schema in actual use? Non-numeric characters are for house-numbers that actually contain these characters. Like your 120b- example. Marcus -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
On 3/14/09, paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com wrote: MW: ...your tagging will not be put to use ... except by people looking at maps on screen or on paper - who might find it useful. So, as usual, the people writing applications will have to do a little dance with the people tagging nodes with house numbers. :-) I`ll implement the most important part of what is documented. Not even all of that. I`ll not even think of implementing schemas here that are not even documented for the simple case is already complex enough. Other values for addr:housenumber will simply regarded as illegal values and not found. Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
I would have thought that 1 to 500 would be easier to parse into machine readable digits than 120b or does 120b == 120.2? On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On 3/14/09, paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com wrote: MW: ...your tagging will not be put to use ... except by people looking at maps on screen or on paper - who might find it useful. So, as usual, the people writing applications will have to do a little dance with the people tagging nodes with house numbers. :-) I`ll implement the most important part of what is documented. Not even all of that. I`ll not even think of implementing schemas here that are not even documented for the simple case is already complex enough. Other values for addr:housenumber will simply regarded as illegal values and not found. Marcus -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
On 3/14/09, paul youlten paul.youl...@gmail.com wrote: I would have thought that 1 to 500 would be easier to parse into machine readable digits than 120b or does 120b == 120.2? House-numbers are not at all times numbers. 120b is the string 120b. Parsing into numbers is only required for the documented interpolation of long streets and that only allowes some cases that can be implemented in a sensible number of man-hours. It does not make sense to try to parse that into real numbers as you suggested. There are cases out there strange enough for this to bot work in a generic way. Also it would not be possible to generate the original housenumber from such a number. Marcus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
I am working on addressing my neighborhood, and many of the buildings have multiple addresses. For example, in my building, each apartment has its own address. I am not sure how to label this. I have read through the past threads as well as the proposed feature: (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema#Apartment_Blocks.2C_Blocks_of_Flats.2C_Communities.2C_Business_Parks.2C_Campuses_etc ... ) This seems to be concerned more with apartment numbers, or separate entrances. In our building we have one entrance and each apartment door is a different address number. Also, for buildings such as malls, where there are many stores (I am working on San Francisco's Ferry building which has about 30 shops in it), are people just adding in separate nodes for each shop, or is there a better alternative? Thanks Sarah Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com Cell: 631-338-3815 Skype: Sarah_cloudmade Twitter: SarahManley ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple addresses/use for one building
Sarah, you could use (or adapt) the Karlsruhe Schema: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Schema As I understand it you make a node _next_ to the way that is the street to show which side of the street it is and tag it with: addr:housenumber = 1939 or if there are multiple apartments at one node or doorway: addr:housenumber = 220a, 222a, 224b, 226b or addr:housenumber = 1 to 550 ... remember it is an open street map and most people just want to know more or less where a building is likely to be - they can work it out the exact location from clues on the map or when they are on the street itself. I am not sure what to do about shops in a shopping mall I would probably aim to make the thoroughfares ways (using layer +1, +2 for the different floors) and put nodes alongside for each shop but I have never actually gone that far. and it does seem a bit extreme life is short. PaulY On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com wrote: I am working on addressing my neighborhood, and many of the buildings have multiple addresses. For example, in my building, each apartment has its own address. I am not sure how to label this. I have read through the past threads as well as the proposed feature: (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema#Apartment_Blocks.2C_Blocks_of_Flats.2C_Communities.2C_Business_Parks.2C_Campuses_etc ... ) This seems to be concerned more with apartment numbers, or separate entrances. In our building we have one entrance and each apartment door is a different address number. Also, for buildings such as malls, where there are many stores (I am working on San Francisco's Ferry building which has about 30 shops in it), are people just adding in separate nodes for each shop, or is there a better alternative? Thanks Sarah Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com Cell: 631-338-3815 Skype: Sarah_cloudmade Twitter: SarahManley ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
