Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/dumps/ offers downloads of the raw data. Thanks - I'll have a look at that. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Someoneelse wrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: there is something better already http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ Is there a way of getting data out of that easily? If there is it would make sense to be able to convert bugs within an area to e.g. Garmin waypoints. Use the OpenStreetBugs GPX export and then follow the steps described in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/GarminPOI ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: there is something better already http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ Is there a way of getting data out of that easily? If there is it would make sense to be able to convert bugs within an area to e.g. Garmin waypoints. I tend to use those for stuff I need to come back to. They don't get added to the main map, obviously, but you can get an idea by looking at a recent public trace of mine such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/traces/454421 . I tend to use blue for stuff to come back to, green for done and other symbols for particular features. Before going somewhere I create a GPX of all waypoints within the area and send it to my GPS and then edit e.g. blue to green when something is completed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/dumps/ offers downloads of the raw data. shouldn't be difficult to grep the info and format it into a csv files. Garmin utilities can convert csv files to POI I think only Garmin with memory cards support loading these POI files. This way you don't need to recompile the map On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.ukwrote: Apollinaris Schoell wrote: there is something better already http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ Is there a way of getting data out of that easily? If there is it would make sense to be able to convert bugs within an area to e.g. Garmin waypoints. I tend to use those for stuff I need to come back to. They don't get added to the main map, obviously, but you can get an idea by looking at a recent public trace of mine such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SomeoneElse/traces/454421 . I tend to use blue for stuff to come back to, green for done and other symbols for particular features. Before going somewhere I create a GPX of all waypoints within the area and send it to my GPS and then edit e.g. blue to green when something is completed. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs
+1 Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Martin Norbäck [mailto:mar...@norpan.org] Sent: 14 August 2009 15:50 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs When I have seen unmapped roads, I've put a small stub and on the end node of that stub I've put todo=continues as a tag. What would be great was if this tag (or another one like it) could be rendered on the map with ellipsis or whatever. That helps both the mapper, who then knows where to start mapping, and a user, who then knows that there is a road there that at least leads somewhere. Another good tag would be todo=estimated for roads that are not properly surveyed, but only estimated. I'm hesitant to put these kinds of roads in because it could be confusing, but if they would be clearly marked as estimated then they have a potential value. A road user does not necessarily need to know exactly how a road curves, most of the time it's sufficient to see where the road leads. The tag names are just examples, I'm don't care what the actual tag name would be. /Martin Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200 From: Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs? To: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 04d7ddd0-fd04-4eb8-940e-85335690c...@bioxray.au.dk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Good idea - but can we do it simply by adding the stub of a way at the relevant point? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Morten Kjeldgaard [mailto:m...@bioxray.au.dk] Sent: 13 August 2009 23:34 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs? I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
2009/8/14 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: Alternatively we could mark places already mapped, using stickers in annoying colours that you'd carry in rolls. That's really a cool idea. On the sticker there could be some advertising for the project (this street has been mapped in openstreetmaps.org, the free wiki world-map. Feel free to visit us online and add more details or something similar). cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Mappers have in the past put in stubs with a few nodes tailing off, to state that there is something here that needs to be surveyed further. Shaun On 14 Aug 2009, at 09:52, Mike Harris wrote: Good idea - but can we do it simply by adding the stub of a way at the relevant point? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Morten Kjeldgaard [mailto:m...@bioxray.au.dk] Sent: 13 August 2009 23:34 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs? I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs
When I have seen unmapped roads, I've put a small stub and on the end node of that stub I've put todo=continues as a tag. What would be great was if this tag (or another one like it) could be rendered on the map with ellipsis or whatever. That helps both the mapper, who then knows where to start mapping, and a user, who then knows that there is a road there that at least leads somewhere. Another good tag would be todo=estimated for roads that are not properly surveyed, but only estimated. I'm hesitant to put these kinds of roads in because it could be confusing, but if they would be clearly marked as estimated then they have a potential value. A road user does not necessarily need to know exactly how a road curves, most of the time it's sufficient to see where the road leads. The tag names are just examples, I'm don't care what the actual tag name would be. /Martin Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:34:24 +0200 From: Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs? To: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 04d7ddd0-fd04-4eb8-940e-85335690c...@bioxray.au.dk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Martin Norbäck wrote: Another good tag would be todo=estimated for roads that are not properly surveyed, but only estimated. How about source=estimated? -- - Joseph Scanlan +1-702-455-3679 http://www.n7xsd.us/ j...@co.clark.nv.us (work) (not work) n7...@arrl.net - So he went inside there to take on what he found. But he never escaped them, for who can escape what he desires? --Tony Banks of Genesis in The Lady Lies___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
I'm using highway=road stubs with a fixme=continuation tag. Both show up in validators so they get attention if anyone is there mapping. See e.g. http://osm.org/go/0eHp_Ibf-?layers=0B00FTF Konrad ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Morten Kjeldgaard schrieb: I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten Yes, that would be nice. I use a printed map (e.g. google) of the area i want to track to osm and color the ways i've done and the ones i missed as i go. But this is useful to me, only -- not to anyone else around. This could be done with such a tag. Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
there is something better already http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dkwrote: I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
I've seen todo=job used for this purpose. And todo tags show up in a number of verification tools, so it will be brought to people's attention. Stephen 2009/8/14 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk: I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a set of OSM status POIs that you could use to mark the status of the mapping at certain places. I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. It would be very useful to have a POI saying for example unmapped highway/path etc. starts here. Then you could check out and select those points in your area, and they would serve as a reminder to you (or others coming along) that there's something here not yet mapped. These POIs would also serve as bite-size mapping projects if you're looking for quick things to do in your area. I guess there are other instances where an OSM status POIs would be useful. Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
Morten Kjeldgaard schrieb: I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. simply add a short stub for that road and attach a note=FIXME: (x = e.g. road missing, or only a stub, needs to be mapped). The FIXMEs are today already detected by the tools who check the data. I don't like the idea of status-POIs at all, because they don't represent things existing in the real world. Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?
2009/8/14 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de: Morten Kjeldgaard schrieb: I find I sometimes have to skip roads, tracks or paths, because I am too tired, don't have time, or that I'm going at good speed downhill and don't want to stop. I've tried to make mental notes to return and map those missing roads at a later time but as time goes by, you tend to forget. Maybe those Points Of Interest should be added in the real world instead of the OSM database, e.g. we could start drawing a big white X letter with chalk on any street that still needs mapping ;) Alternatively we could mark places already mapped, using stickers in annoying colours that you'd carry in rolls. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
