Re: [OSM-talk] Old maps from Royal Collection UK

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 20:30, Colin Smale  wrote:
>
> On 2020-02-06 21:10, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
> George III's collection of military maps

> Remarkably, though, they are claiming copyright over these maps.

> As I read it, they are claiming copyright in the images on the
> website, which is probably fair enough. I cannot see where they
> claim copyright in the maps themselves. But they do have
> ownership on their side; can they be forced to make the original
> maps available for someone else to photograph/scan?

Those images are flat reproductions of entire maps, not artistic
renditions; for example:

   
https://militarymaps.rct.uk/other-17th-century-conflicts/siege-of-vercelli-1617-lassedio-di-vercelli

The UK Intellectual Property Office guidance says:

   According to the Court of Justice of the European Union which has effect
   in UK law, copyright can only subsist in subject matter that is
original in the
   sense that it is the author’s own ‘intellectual creation’. Given
this criteria, it
   seems unlikely that what is merely a retouched, digitised image of an older
   work can be considered as ‘original’. This is because there will generally
   be minimal scope for a creator to exercise free and creative choices if their
   aim is simply to make a faithful reproduction of an existing work.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Old maps from Royal Collection UK

2020-02-06 Thread Colin Smale
On 2020-02-06 21:10, Andy Mabbett wrote:

> The UK's Royal Collection [1 [1]] have placed online [2 [2]] George III's
> collection of military maps which, they say:
> 
> comprises some 3,000 maps, views and prints
> ranging from the disposition of Charles V's armies
> at Vienna in 1532 to the Battle of Waterloo (1815).
> 
> I'm sure these will be of interest to many OSM mappers.
> 
> Remarkably, though, they are claiming copyright over these maps.

As I read it, they are claiming copyright in the images on the website,
which is probably fair enough. I cannot see where they claim copyright
in the maps themselves. But they do have ownership on their side; can
they be forced to make the original maps available for someone else to
photograph/scan? 
  

Links:
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Collection
[2] https://militarymaps.rct.uk/___
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[OSM-talk] Old maps from Royal Collection UK

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
The UK's Royal Collection [1] have placed online [2] George III's
collection of military maps which, they say:

   comprises some 3,000 maps, views and prints
   ranging from the disposition of Charles V's armies
   at Vienna in 1532 to the Battle of Waterloo (1815).

I'm sure these will be of interest to many OSM mappers.

Remarkably, though, they are claiming copyright over these maps.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Collection

[2] https://militarymaps.rct.uk/

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