Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Körner
Richard Fairhurst schrieb:
> Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I 
>> was in Germany, it was a completely different potlatch-experience 
>> and I was sorry for blaming potlatch in the past ;-)
> 
> :)
> 
> Potlatch is indeed quite sensitive to connectivity problems, whether with
> the OSM server or anything in between. Or to be more accurate, Flash Player
> is reluctant to tell Potlatch if the connection has failed, so Potlatch is
> happily sitting there not knowing anything is wrong.
> 
> The link that Mike posted works pretty quickly for me - only about three
> seconds or so. So it does sound like it might be a network issue.
> 
> Best advice is that if it's taking too long, just refresh.
> 
> cheers
> Richard
> 
> (wrt Peter Körner's post, I think I'm going to write Botlatch, a script
> which will look for any mention of JOSM and reply "Have you tried Potlatch?
> It's a Flash program which performs much better (IMHO) than JOSM etc. etc.")

I'm sorry I wrote such a dumb answer. If someone is using Postlatch he's 
probably doing so with intent. My intention was to give Mike a solution 
he can work with. I see that the suggestion "try another tool" is not 
the correct answer to "tool xy does not what it should" and I promise to 
think about it, next time.

Peter

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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I 
> was in Germany, it was a completely different potlatch-experience 
> and I was sorry for blaming potlatch in the past ;-)

:)

Potlatch is indeed quite sensitive to connectivity problems, whether with
the OSM server or anything in between. Or to be more accurate, Flash Player
is reluctant to tell Potlatch if the connection has failed, so Potlatch is
happily sitting there not knowing anything is wrong.

The link that Mike posted works pretty quickly for me - only about three
seconds or so. So it does sound like it might be a network issue.

Best advice is that if it's taking too long, just refresh.

cheers
Richard

(wrt Peter Körner's post, I think I'm going to write Botlatch, a script
which will look for any mention of JOSM and reply "Have you tried Potlatch?
It's a Flash program which performs much better (IMHO) than JOSM etc. etc.")
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Peter Körner
Mike Ryan schrieb:
> Hi All
> 
> I'm trying to update the map using a GPS trace I took while on holiday 
> in Udine in Northern Italy
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?gpx=462905
> 
> However, the map itself is really slow to show all the existing ways 
> once I go into edit mode - I have already created a road that was 
> already there (and then had to delete it), as the existing ways didn't 
> come up, despite waiting quite a few minutes.
> 
> Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Is it 
> because the area I'm doing is not very well mapped, so not cached on the 
> server or something?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mike

Did you try JOSM? It's a Java-Programm that (IMHO) performs much better 
than Postlatch.

Peter

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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Thanks, Martin

I think I may have found out what the problem is. Like you said, don't blame
the potlatch!!

On the traces I have problems with, I did multiple traces on the same day
and saved them on my Garmin eTrex. The device shows for example, the
following two traces
29-JUL-2009
29-JUL-2009 02

However, I only see one file in windows
20090729.gpx

This is what I uploaded to the web site and this is what I guess is causing
the problem

Cheers

Mike

2009/8/4 Martin Koppenhoefer 

> 2009/8/4 Mike Ryan :
> > I originally tried to edit these in Germany when I stayed at a friend's
> > house in Munich - I'm back home in the UK now and it's exactly the same.
> >
> > I've uploaded all my traces from my holiday now and see similar problems
> > with all of the larger ones. However, one thing I have noticed about
> > Openstreetmap in this region is that literally every house has been
> mapped.
> > Therefore, whenever you try to do an edit it has to load up an awful lot
> of
> > data.
>
> it's an import (the houses). FVG is the common name in italy for this
> import, the data came from the region.
>
> cheers,
> Martin
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/4 Mike Ryan :

> Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Is it because
> the area I'm doing is not very well mapped, so not cached on the server or
> something?

I also experienced the same issue when mapping in Italy. When I was in
Germany, it was a completely different potlatch-experience and I was
sorry for blaming potlatch in the past ;-). Guess like you that there
is some network-problems (are you accessing from italy or from
somewhere else?).

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Looks like it could be a bug or something (or maybe something wrong in the
trace). I tried editing it in IE and it does the same thing.

I've got some other traces from the same area that I'll upload and see how I
get on

Cheers

Mike

2009/8/4 Mike Ryan 

> Hi All
>
> I'm trying to update the map using a GPS trace I took while on holiday in
> Udine in Northern Italy
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?gpx=462905
>
> However, the map itself is really slow to show all the existing ways once I
> go into edit mode - I have already created a road that was already there
> (and then had to delete it), as the existing ways didn't come up, despite
> waiting quite a few minutes.
>
> Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Is it because
> the area I'm doing is not very well mapped, so not cached on the server or
> something?
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
>
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[OSM-talk] Potlatch really slow

2009-08-04 Thread Mike Ryan
Hi All

I'm trying to update the map using a GPS trace I took while on holiday in
Udine in Northern Italy
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?gpx=462905

However, the map itself is really slow to show all the existing ways once I
go into edit mode - I have already created a road that was already there
(and then had to delete it), as the existing ways didn't come up, despite
waiting quite a few minutes.

Is this normal? Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Is it because
the area I'm doing is not very well mapped, so not cached on the server or
something?

Cheers

Mike
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