[OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors
Hi all, I keep having 412 errors when trying to modify a certain route relation (id=3964, runs from Antwerp to the Netherlands in Belgium). It's quite a long route relation so I don't immediately see where the problem is, just the 412 error on the terminal (which JOSM doesn't detect btw, it thinks it uploaded successfully). Point is, since I can't modify the relation, I can't modify a highway intersection where this route relation passes (because one can't delete ways belonging to a relation, which also gives a 412 error when you try to do that), and now have this quite broken intersection as a result. Therefore this question: is there some way to get more info from the server about the specific nature of this problem? Some weeks ago, I had a similar issue btw, I was trying to add a way to a relation which would always give a 412 error from the server. In the end I deleted that way and replaced it with a new way and added that one, which worked (still no idea what was wrong with that way though, it looked good), but then I at least knew what specific way gave this problem, I can't possible check each specific way in a route which runs for 100km. Greetings Ben PS: is there any work being done into finally properly supporting route relations in the editors? It still randomly happens now and then that routes get broken because an editor lets a user split or join roads with relations on them. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors
Hi, I keep having 412 errors when trying to modify a certain route relation (id=3964, runs from Antwerp to the Netherlands in Belgium). Possibly an object referenced by that relation got deleted somehow and now you can't upload changes as that would refer to a deleted object. Shouldn't happen, I'll investigate later today. Therefore this question: is there some way to get more info from the server about the specific nature of this problem? Not currently. PS: is there any work being done into finally properly supporting route relations in the editors? It still randomly happens now and then that routes get broken because an editor lets a user split or join roads with relations on them. I have ideas how to handle this in JOSM but haven't done anything about them yet. For Potlatch, I think I read that there's a pending 0.8 release that works with (certain types of) relations. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors
Frederik Ramm wrote: PS: is there any work being done into finally properly supporting route relations in the editors? It still randomly happens now and then that routes get broken because an editor lets a user split or join roads with relations on them. I have ideas how to handle this in JOSM but haven't done anything about them yet. For Potlatch, I think I read that there's a pending 0.8 release that works with (certain types of) relations. Yep, Potlatch 0.8 has good relations support (thanks to Dave Stubbs) and should be available as soon as TomH returns and can deploy it. It's worth pointing out that Potlatch will never _forbid_ you from joining or splitting a way because of any properties of that way. Popping up an alert saying You can't do that due to some weird data- model magic that you probably don't understand is bad UI. The design philosophy is, rather, to make it clear what you've done. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors
Hi, Popping up an alert saying You can't do that due to some weird data- model magic that you probably don't understand is bad UI. The design philosophy is, rather, to make it clear what you've done. ... and THEN pop up an alert saying ouch, look what you've DONE! ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
