Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM notes in Brazil again
On 27/10/2020 23:50, Erick de Oliveira Leal wrote: Some time ago I reported that several anonymous SPAM notes were being created in Brazil, through the "Report" option available in the note. Someone told me it was not SPAM, so I showed the amount of notes in sequence, so they blocked the IP of this account. But now they started creating several SPAM notes again, I reported again and the user @mavl told me that I should close the notes and not report them anymore, but the "report SPAM" tool exists for that, if not to report SPAM cases , then it should be removed from the selectable options. For example, note 2401429 is a mere copy of note 1230095, another example: note 2401510 merely copies the name of an existing element under it. All notes are sent in sequence, anonymously, copying from non-anonymous notes or existing elements. Please block this IP, it is getting in the way. It would help if, when reporting new issues like this you explained what the actual problem is (such as "note 2401429 is a mere copy of note 1230095"). Unfortunately on the issue here your report was instead just "SPAM". You then (I presume after sending this email) explained the actual problem, and as soon as that was received the admins were alerted by the DWG member handling the issue to see if they could help. However, as Mateusz has said, IP blocks are not effective, as most regular internet users won't have a fixed IP address (and anyone who wants not to be tracked by IP can ensure that every request is from a different one). In some cases of unwanted notes it's possible to detect a problem note from content, but here that's not easy here because "detecting exactly the same contents as another note somewhere else" is (a) a computationally heavy task (b) will yield false positives and (c) is trivial to evade. There will come a time, I suspect, when we no longer allow anonymous notes to be created in OSM (anonymous note comments are already blocked). We already do get spammers (real spammers trying to advertise businesses, which this note adder in Brazil isn't) creating one account per edit. Best Regards, Andy (from the DWG) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SPAM notes in Brazil again
To me https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1230095#map=19/-22.97415/-43.33452 looks like a request to add unmapped restaurant (not spam) - why you closed it? "2401429 is a mere copy of note 1230095" In such notes note should and can be closed, I did this. "Please block this IP" - note that IP blocks are not effective, it works only against dumb spammers and affects also innocent people :( Oct 28, 2020, 00:50 by erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com: > Some time ago I reported that several anonymous SPAM notes were being created > in Brazil, through the "Report" option available in the note. Someone told me > it was not SPAM, so I showed the amount of notes in sequence, so they blocked > the IP of this account. But now they started creating several SPAM notes > again, I reported again and the user @mavl told me that I should close the > notes and not report them anymore, but the "report SPAM" tool exists for > that, if not to report SPAM cases , then it should be removed from the > selectable options. For example, note 2401429 is a mere copy of note 1230095, > another example: note 2401510 merely copies the name of an existing element > under it. All notes are sent in sequence, anonymously, copying from > non-anonymous notes or existing elements. Please block this IP, it is getting > in the way. > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] SPAM notes in Brazil again
Some time ago I reported that several anonymous SPAM notes were being created in Brazil, through the "Report" option available in the note. Someone told me it was not SPAM, so I showed the amount of notes in sequence, so they blocked the IP of this account. But now they started creating several SPAM notes again, I reported again and the user @mavl told me that I should close the notes and not report them anymore, but the "report SPAM" tool exists for that, if not to report SPAM cases , then it should be removed from the selectable options. For example, note 2401429 is a mere copy of note 1230095, another example: note 2401510 merely copies the name of an existing element under it. All notes are sent in sequence, anonymously, copying from non-anonymous notes or existing elements. Please block this IP, it is getting in the way. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk