Re: [OSM-talk] Tag official_name ? (was Multilingual Country-List)

2009-08-14 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:56:03 +0200, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The instructions at the top of the pages could also mention the
 official_name:* tags - I don't know if these are approved in any way
 but I found they were on some of the nodes and I thought it was a good
 idea to propagate these too where the full name differs from the
 normal name the country is known by (which could otherwise be placed
 in loc_name, but it should probably be the one displayed by default)
 
 What is this mess about official_name, name and loc_name ?
 
 Is someone shifting what was earlier name/loc_name to something new
 like official_name/name ?
 Where is it discussed/described on this ML or the wiki ?
 
 Pieren
 
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official_name could be added without changing the meaning of name. For
example, official_name=Kongeriket Norge, name=Norge, name:nb=Norge,
name:nn=Noreg, name:en=Norway. Kongeriket Norge is the official name
of Norway, though it is commonly known only as Norge and Noreg
depending on which form of the Norwegian language you speak. Some cities
also have the same. One could also add nick_name to the list, for example
the city name=Fredrikstad have nick_name=Plankebyen. In my opinion name
should be what you expect printed on a map sold in that country. All other
*name* tags and name:* tags should be available for multilingual searches
and common aliases. If I search for Kongeriket Norge I expect to find
Norway, but would I find Fredrikstad by searching for Plankebyen?
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Brgds
Aun Johnsen
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[OSM-talk] Tag official_name ? (was Multilingual Country-List)

2009-08-13 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The instructions at the top of the pages could also mention the
 official_name:* tags - I don't know if these are approved in any way
 but I found they were on some of the nodes and I thought it was a good
 idea to propagate these too where the full name differs from the
 normal name the country is known by (which could otherwise be placed
 in loc_name, but it should probably be the one displayed by default)

What is this mess about official_name, name and loc_name ?

Is someone shifting what was earlier name/loc_name to something new
like official_name/name ?
Where is it discussed/described on this ML or the wiki ?

Pieren

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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag official_name ? (was Multilingual Country-List)

2009-08-13 Thread Cartinus
On Thursday 13 August 2009 10:56:03 Pieren wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  The instructions at the top of the pages could also mention the
  official_name:* tags - I don't know if these are approved in any way
  but I found they were on some of the nodes and I thought it was a good
  idea to propagate these too where the full name differs from the
  normal name the country is known by (which could otherwise be placed
  in loc_name, but it should probably be the one displayed by default)

 What is this mess about official_name, name and loc_name ?

 Is someone shifting what was earlier name/loc_name to something new
 like official_name/name ?
 Where is it discussed/described on this ML or the wiki ?

 Pieren

This is just adapting to what people are actually putting in the tags.

You don't see many countries tagged like name=la Republique francaise

Nor will you find many printed maps with those full official names printed as 
country labels.

-- 
m.v.g.,
Cartinus

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Re: [OSM-talk] Tag official_name ? (was Multilingual Country-List)

2009-08-13 Thread Peter Körner
Pieren schrieb:
 On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, andrzej zaborowskibalr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The instructions at the top of the pages could also mention the
 official_name:* tags - I don't know if these are approved in any way
 but I found they were on some of the nodes and I thought it was a good
 idea to propagate these too where the full name differs from the
 normal name the country is known by (which could otherwise be placed
 in loc_name, but it should probably be the one displayed by default)
 
 What is this mess about official_name, name and loc_name ?
 
 Is someone shifting what was earlier name/loc_name to something new
 like official_name/name ?
 Where is it discussed/described on this ML or the wiki ?
 
 Pieren


I don't know anything about official_name or loc_name. The origin of 
this tool was the local-aware rendering at 
http://cassini.toolserver.org/tile-browse/, which is based only on the 
name:*-tags and (if not present) on the name-tag.

Peter

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