Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Hi, I would like to support this feedback because my impression is very similar: On 13.11.2013 11:58, Peter Barth wrote: > > * When I move and zoom the map I occasionally get a "Loading..."-text in > the textbox, which makes the "Welcome..."-text bounce up and down. > This is annoying. > > * The color/design of login/signup-buttons is too light so that it looks > like they're deactivated. I'd like to have them darker. > > * Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (Didn't > check if it vanishes for registered users) I would especially like to point out that mappers using offline editors are often not logged into osm.org and that I do not assume that non-editing users should create accounts. Nevertheless, many thanks the developers for the effort they have put into our project's website! Tobias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Pros: - The Export function is back which is sorely lacking on the current front page. Cons: - The writing and buttons are very pale, very low contrast. They are hard to read under the best of conditions, probably completely illegible outside. Provide more contrast or at least an user option for a second, high-contrast stylesheet. - The huge map strongly supports the common misconception that OSM is only about maps or only about this one map. The hints about the real character are hidden behind the (rarely clicked) "About" button. A solution like done on openstreetmap.de would be much better, it tells you about the real range of possibilities first and the standard maps are one click away. bye, Nop -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Upcoming-changes-to-OpenStreetMap-org-website-tp5785168p5785413.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Rob Nickerson schrieb: Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org First of all, the new design looks really nice. And there's a way to get to the search function on a mobile device now! \o/ But I have two points I don't like that much: 1) The Box underneath the search is a distraction once I start looking around on the map, please provide a way to collapse it. 2) One of my main reasons to call up the OSM site is often to get to the wiki, can it be made more swiftly available? It could even be behind a "Hamburger button" like the search etc. is on mobile (just not requiring another page load). Thanks for all the work! Robert Kaiser ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Personally, I want to congratulate and thank everyone who has put countless hours into this redesign over the last few months. This is a significant improvement over our current homepage and helps with the very serious issue that OSM simply looked *dated*. This is a beautiful, usable site, which is important not just for aesthetics, but also because of the competence it communicates. In addition, it's quite lovely on a mobile browser, which was a pleasant surprise! Great work, everyone. I (we!) really appreciate the work you've done! Cheers, Kathleen On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Daniel Westergren wrote: > As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better > ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a > map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning > curve not really knowing where to start. > > Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database, > presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something > to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce > any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer > to the imagination of the visitor. > > Or why not use the description on the About page: "*OpenStreetMap powers > map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*"? > > I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users, > removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data > up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a > Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put > Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would > know how to use anyway). > > /Daniel > > > 2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar > >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth wrote: >> >>> * History mostly always gives "No changesets in this area" for areas >>> smaller than whole europe >>> >> >> This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from >> the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So >> there is no changeset almost everywhere. >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning curve not really knowing where to start. Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database, presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer to the imagination of the visitor. Or why not use the description on the About page: "*OpenStreetMap powers map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*"? I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users, removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would know how to use anyway). /Daniel 2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth wrote: > >> * History mostly always gives "No changesets in this area" for areas >> smaller than whole europe >> > > This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from > the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So > there is no changeset almost everywhere. > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth wrote: > * History mostly always gives "No changesets in this area" for areas > smaller than whole europe > This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So there is no changeset almost everywhere. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
+1 ! When I present OSM to local authorities, I usually start with a joke... in OpenStreetMap only one word is right: "open" street ? whe're not doing only street mapping map ? we're not only making maps Changing OSM's name is way too late, but at least we should have a clear statement about not only streets and not only map(s)... 2013/11/13 rainerU > The text "OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained > by an > active community of contributors." has always been on the main page and has > never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings > about > OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix > this: OSM is not a map but a database. > > Rainer > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Un nouveau serveur pour OSM... http://donate.osm.org/server2013/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
The text "OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained by an active community of contributors." has always been on the main page and has never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings about OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix this: OSM is not a map but a database. Rainer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
Hi, Rob Nickerson schrieb: > Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and > constructive criticism is welcomed. overall I like the new design. It's cleaner and I have more visible map. However, I also have some smaller notes (and bugs?!). * After search I get the search results. Clicking on a result makes the results disappear (however, a white empty stripe stays) and the map does not jump to the city I searched * When I move and zoom the map I occasionally get a "Loading..."-text in the textbox, which makes the "Welcome..."-text bounce up and down. This is annoying. * The color/design of login/signup-buttons is too light so that it looks like they're deactivated. I'd like to have them darker. * Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (Didn't check if it vanishes for registered users) * History mostly always gives "No changesets in this area" for areas smaller than whole europe Regards, Peda -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
I should add that the test server running at the link below is separate from the rest of the osm.org website. As such, you will need to set up a new user account if you want to test out how the website functions for logged in users. http://redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org (I'm sure someone will correct me if I have got this mixed up) On 12 November 2013 23:05, Rob Nickerson wrote: > (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change > to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive > feedback) > > Hi All, > > Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly > ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at > redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest > changes on the “pull request” at: > > > https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 > > This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's > presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not > everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists > and "github pull request" so to help I have collated the video and slides > from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at > http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/ > > Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and > constructive criticism is welcomed. > > Regards, > RobJN > > Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working > Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at: > http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/ > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
(The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Hi All, Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest changes on the “pull request” at: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700 This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists and "github pull request" so to help I have collated the video and slides from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/ Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and constructive criticism is welcomed. Regards, RobJN Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at: http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
