Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Gustav Foseid]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Ed Loach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I don't know Norwegian, but the best translation of Gråsonen that I can
> come up with is "grey zone".
>

"Gråsonen" or "grey zone" is a  disputed area between the (undisputed)
exclusive economic zones of Norway and Russia. In my opinion, it makes
little sense to have this area marked as a administrative boundary of level
2, as long as we do not these zones in the first place.

A sketch is here: http://www.sikkerhetspolitikk.no/kart/hav/2.htm

 - Gustav
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Bernt M. Johnsen]

Don't know what ZorroIII (That's roman numeral 3) did, but for your information:

"Gråsonen" (The Grey Zone) is an area in the Barents Sea which is
disputed. Norway claims it is in the Norwegian Economic Zone
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Economic_Zone) and Russia
claims it is Russian. The two countries regularly negotiates fishing
quotas this zone and it used to be very unregulated. The lack of
regulation is the cause of the name. Oil/Gas rights is not resolved as
far as I know.

Bernt

2008/12/9 Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> (to the list also)
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 22:29, Scott Atwood wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote:
>> > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass
>> > straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can't
>> > find it using Mapnik or Potlatch.
>>
>> http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27611977
>>
>> Did you find this with a brute force search?  Or did you have a more
>> elegant method?
>
> The high-res version of the Europe image pointed somewhere west of
> Riga. Then the data layer.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Robert Vollmert]

(to the list also)

On Dec 9, 2008, at 22:29, Scott Atwood wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote:
> > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass
> > straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can't
> > find it using Mapnik or Potlatch.
>
> http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27611977
>
> Did you find this with a brute force search?  Or did you have a more  
> elegant method?

The high-res version of the Europe image pointed somewhere west of  
Riga. Then the data layer.

Cheers
Robert


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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Scott Atwood]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote:
> > I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass
> > straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can't
> > find it using Mapnik or Potlatch.
>
> http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27611977
>

Did you find this with a brute force search?  Or did you have a more elegant
method?
-Scott

-- 
Scott Atwood

Cycle tracks will abound in Utopia.  ~H.G. Wells
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Robert Vollmert]

On Dec 9, 2008, at 21:58, Ed Loach wrote:
> I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass  
> straight through Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can’t  
> find it using Mapnik or Potlatch.

http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27611977


Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Ed Loach]

Looking at the polygon again someone has gone to the trouble of adding nodes on 
the long straight bits with a notes tag:

“Redundant node, just inserted so [EMAIL PROTECTED] has one for each tile”

e.g.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=73.999 
 
&lon=31.4443&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF

History of the enclosing way shows lots of amendments over a couple of days by 
Zorrolll (at least I think they are “l”s)

 

I think the way heading north from Finland may actually pass straight through 
Finland and start somewhere near Riga. But I can’t find it using Mapnik or 
Potlatch.

 

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Ed Loach]

I don’t know Norwegian, but the best translation of Gråsonen that I can come up 
with is “grey zone”.

 

Ed

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of D Tucny
Sent: 09 December 2008 18:39
To: Peter Miller
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also 
Santa's Routes!

 

The polygon has boundary tags on it... 

Way: 28592616

*   admin_level: 2
*   created_by: Potlatch 0.10f
*   name: Gråsonen
*   boundary: administrative

I've not had much luck finding the other trail... A combination of it have not 
visible end points or nodes and the fact it is so close to the north pole which 
makes extracting data somewhat difficult mean I'm going to have to give up on 
it...

 

d

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[D Tucny]

The polygon has boundary tags on it... Way: 28592616

   - *admin_level*: 2
   - *created_by*: Potlatch 0.10f
   - *name*: Gråsonen
   - *boundary*: administrative

I've not had much luck finding the other trail... A combination of it have
not visible end points or nodes and the fact it is so close to the north
pole which makes extracting data somewhat difficult mean I'm going to have
to give up on it...

d


2008/12/10 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I have just updated the planet image on Flickr today (with last night's
> planet cut).
>
> Nearly all the Santa trails are now gone. There is still one heading north
> from Finland and also a dubious polygon in the same area which could do with
> investigation! It would be great if someone could take a look at these last
> ones.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
> 2008/12/7 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> One more... 25825106 (
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25825106/history) from Columbia,
>> through Venezuela, Costa Rica and Nicaragua...
>> d
>>
>> 2008/12/6 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Also deleted way 26645814 (
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26645814/history) that ran east
>>> from Australia...
>>> d
>>>
>>> 2008/12/5 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Deleted way 27597540 (
 http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history) 
 including
 5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
 'pefok'... Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South
 America, out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
 created_by...

 d

 2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
> over the past year.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia
>
>
>
> This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
> some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
> routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now 
> been
> removed.
>
>
>
> We have just updated this image to show the current situation which
> shows what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless 
> they
> are ferry routes).
>
>
>
> Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate
> (this is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also
> suggest that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed
> one to avoid duplicate work?
>
>
>
> We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another
> good reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.
>
>
>
> It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
> subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Miller
>
> ITO World Ltd
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Peter Miller]

I have just updated the planet image on Flickr today (with last night's
planet cut).

Nearly all the Santa trails are now gone. There is still one heading north
from Finland and also a dubious polygon in the same area which could do with
investigation! It would be great if someone could take a look at these last
ones.


Regards,


Peter


2008/12/7 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> One more... 25825106 (
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25825106/history) from Columbia,
> through Venezuela, Costa Rica and Nicaragua...
> d
>
> 2008/12/6 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Also deleted way 26645814 (
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26645814/history) that ran east
>> from Australia...
>> d
>>
>> 2008/12/5 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Deleted way 27597540 (
>>> http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history) 
>>> including
>>> 5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
>>> 'pefok'... Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South
>>> America, out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
>>> created_by...
>>>
>>> d
>>>
>>> 2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
 over the past year.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia



 This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
 some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
 routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now 
 been
 removed.



 We have just updated this image to show the current situation which
 shows what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they
 are ferry routes).



 Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate
 (this is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also
 suggest that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed
 one to avoid duplicate work?



 We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another
 good reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.



 It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
 subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.





 Regards,







 Peter Miller

 ITO World Ltd



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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[D Tucny]

One more... 25825106 (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25825106/history) from Columbia,
through Venezuela, Costa Rica and Nicaragua...
d

2008/12/6 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Also deleted way 26645814 (
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26645814/history) that ran east
> from Australia...
> d
>
> 2008/12/5 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Deleted way 27597540 (
>> http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history) 
>> including
>> 5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
>> 'pefok'... Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South
>> America, out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
>> created_by...
>>
>> d
>>
>> 2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
>>> over the past year.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
>>> some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
>>> routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
>>> removed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
>>> what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
>>> ferry routes).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate
>>> (this is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also
>>> suggest that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed
>>> one to avoid duplicate work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another
>>> good reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
>>> subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Miller
>>>
>>> ITO World Ltd
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[D Tucny]

Also deleted way 26645814 (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/26645814/history) that ran east from
Australia...
d

2008/12/5 D Tucny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Deleted way 27597540 (
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history) 
> including
> 5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
> 'pefok'... Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South
> America, out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
> created_by...
>
> d
>
> 2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
>> over the past year.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia
>>
>>
>>
>> This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
>> some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
>> routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
>> removed.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
>> what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
>> ferry routes).
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate (this
>> is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also suggest
>> that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed one to
>> avoid duplicate work?
>>
>>
>>
>> We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another
>> good reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.
>>
>>
>>
>> It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
>> subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Miller
>>
>> ITO World Ltd
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[D Tucny]

Deleted way 27597540 (
http://api.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27597540/history)
including
5 nodes, 303045069, 303045070, 303045071, 303045072, 303045073... User
'pefok'...Ran from a lake in Canada into the Atlantic, across South America,
out into the Pacific and back again, no objects had any tags even
created_by...

d

2008/12/4 Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap
> over the past year.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia
>
>
>
> This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows
> some large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's
> routes' (see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
> removed.
>
>
>
> We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
> what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
> ferry routes).
>
>
>
> Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate (this
> is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also suggest
> that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed one to
> avoid duplicate work?
>
>
>
> We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another good
> reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.
>
>
>
> It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
> subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter Miller
>
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>
>
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[OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and also Santa's Routes!

[Peter Miller]

A few weeks ago ITO published a planet view of edits to OpenStreetMap over
the past year.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3054501076/in/pool-itomedia

 

This showed lots of good stuff (and loads of hard work!) but also shows some
large scale graffiti which was immediately christened as 'Santa's routes'
(see comment on the Flickr page). Some of these routes have now been
removed.

 

We have just updated this image to show the current situation which shows
what is now left in the dataset and still needs clearing (unless they are
ferry routes). 

 

Can I suggest that people find them and edit them out if appropriate (this
is not easy with big features and the current editors)? Can I also suggest
that people make a comment on the Flickr page if they have removed one to
avoid duplicate work?

 

We will update this image every few days until they are clear, another good
reason to leave a comment if you have removed a trail.

 

It you want to keep up with other images published by ITO then why not
subscribe to the 'ItoMedia' pool.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Peter Miller

ITO World Ltd

 

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