Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
On 22 April 2010 09:20, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: >> you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the >> current version, the source should reflect the last used source of >> information. > > that's what I have written Yes but you came to the conclusion that's a bad thing and some how storing information in the changeset is better... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 22 April 2010 08:41, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > > much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an > > object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the > object > > itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it > still > > the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with > > Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ... > > adding a chain of source isn't useful at all > > you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the > current version, the source should reflect the last used source of > information. > that's what I have written ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
On 22 April 2010 08:41, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an > object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the object > itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it still > the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with > Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ... > adding a chain of source isn't useful at all you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the current version, the source should reflect the last used source of information. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Sebastian Klein wrote: > > yes this is important. don't tag nodes if they have no other tags. will just increase the DB size with no value. imports did this and bots have cleaned up so good to stick with it > Btw. you can add a source tag to your changeset in the upload dialog. > But that's more for the record, other users won't see it in the future > unless they query the changeset. > much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the object itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it still the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ... adding a chain of source isn't useful at all > > Sebastian > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
Gregory wrote:
> While we're on the subject of JOSM user questions...
>
> Is there a way I can make all my new nodes/ways be given the same value
> for source. Like a function that I can set to "OS_OpenData_..." and turn
> on when I have a tracing session.
> I'm not sure how it should deal with me adjusting locations(or adding
> nodes to a way), probably best to just ignore it.
>
> It would be really handy and save me having to remember to add the
> source tag everytime.
Yes, you can search (Ctrl+F) for "id:0". This will select all new
objects. Another search term is "modified" which will select every
object that will be uploaded.
I'm not sure if it is useful to tag every single node like this. Maybe
it is enough to put the tags on the ways. ("id:0 type:way")
Btw. you can add a source tag to your changeset in the upload dialog.
But that's more for the record, other users won't see it in the future
unless they query the changeset.
Sebastian
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
While we're on the subject of JOSM user questions... Is there a way I can make all my new nodes/ways be given the same value for source. Like a function that I can set to "OS_OpenData_..." and turn on when I have a tracing session. I'm not sure how it should deal with me adjusting locations(or adding nodes to a way), probably best to just ignore it. It would be really handy and save me having to remember to add the source tag everytime. On 21 April 2010 04:25, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/4/21 Irene Pucci : > > Ok! Thank you so much! > > Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by > mail or other by other nstruments... > > If you use Linux there are also scripts available, that check > automatically on startup if there is a new version available and > download and install them automatically. > > cheers, > Martin > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
2010/4/21 Irene Pucci : > Ok! Thank you so much! > Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by mail > or other by other nstruments... If you use Linux there are also scripts available, that check automatically on startup if there is a new version available and download and install them automatically. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
When you first start JOSM, it has a loading screen, then it comes up with a news page. A few lines into that page, it has a line that tells you what your version is, what the current stable (tested) version is, and what the very latest version is. Keep an eye on that, and if the stable version it higher than your version, you should think about updating. I'm not sure if there is a mailing list. Stephen On 21 April 2010 19:52, Irene Pucci wrote: > Ok! Thank you so much! > Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by mail > or other by other nstruments... > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
I think there is a setting in JOSM where you specify how often (number of days) it checks for a new version. So after X days it gives a pop up (when you run JOSM) if there is a new version. Or is that just for plugins? Probably just for plugins actually, as there is technically a new version of every JOSM every night, though it could contain really untested stuff. When you launch JOSM and don't open any files, the background is a Message of the Day and can give the latest news (such as important updates). I don't have JOSM to hand right now. On 21 April 2010 02:52, Irene Pucci wrote: > Ok! Thank you so much! > Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by > mail or other by other nstruments... > > -Original Message- > From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] > Sent: mercoledì 21 aprile 2010 11.37 > To: Irene Pucci > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM > > or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day > > Irene > > Already replied on Newbies list. > http://josm.openstreetmap.de > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
Ok! Thank you so much! Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by mail or other by other nstruments... -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: mercoledì 21 aprile 2010 11.37 To: Irene Pucci Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM > or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day > Irene Already replied on Newbies list. http://josm.openstreetmap.de ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci wrote: > Hi, > > Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM > or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day > Irene Already replied on Newbies list. http://josm.openstreetmap.de ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM
Hi, Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day Irene ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
