Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Paul Johnson wrote:
> Notice that signing online petitions to encourage change is roughly 
> as effective as urinating windward to stay dry.

It's not an online petition.

Google have some guys called the Data Liberation Front. They ask you to use
a Google service called Google Moderator, with your Google Account, to vote
on how to improve Google products. That's exactly what we're doing. (With
Google. Did I make that clear?)

Online petitions are asking for change from without. This is asking for
change from within.

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-12 Thread Andrew Ayre
Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 14:49 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>> Google has a really enlightened guy called the "Data Liberation  
>> Front". His role is to make it easy for people to get their data out  
>> of Google - rather than it being locked in.
> 
> Notice that signing online petitions to encourage change is roughly as
> effective as urinating windward to stay dry.  Consider starting a paper
> letter campaign so it costs them time and money dealing with it instead.
> You know what most people think when they're the target of an online
> petition?  "LOL! *baleeted*"

Didn't an online petition just work with the British PM regarding Alan 
Turing? I signed the Google one - took me less than a minute so I didn't 
have much to lose by trying.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 14:49 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Google has a really enlightened guy called the "Data Liberation  
> Front". His role is to make it easy for people to get their data out  
> of Google - rather than it being locked in.

Notice that signing online petitions to encourage change is roughly as
effective as urinating windward to stay dry.  Consider starting a paper
letter campaign so it costs them time and money dealing with it instead.
You know what most people think when they're the target of an online
petition?  "LOL! *baleeted*"



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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

>
> I wrote:
> > http://url.ie/2ero
>
> After just an hour and a half, we're already the second most popular
> suggestion, with 97 votes for and none against. If we can keep it up we'll
> be at the top before long - so keep spreading the message!
>

Not entirely related, but I did want to remind everyone that I have been in
contact with various engineers at Google over the past 1.5 yrs or so to get
Google geodata released. I'm starting with StreetView data (the GPS traces
of the vehicles as they move around taking pictures). From what my contacts
have said, there is lots of interest in making this data more public almost
everywhere at Google, it's just a low priority in terms of engineering time.

I'll keep everyone informed if something moves forward, but so far it's been
one reminder email every 4 months sort of thing to see what's going on.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst

I wrote:
> http://url.ie/2ero

After just an hour and a half, we're already the second most popular
suggestion, with 97 votes for and none against. If we can keep it up we'll
be at the top before long - so keep spreading the message!

cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:57:43 -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

> http://url.ie/2ero

voted



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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread Pradeep B V
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

>
> I wrote:
> > * Please "vote up" this suggestion for Google's Data Liberation Front:
> >   *NOT*   http://moderator.appspot.com/#8/e=43649
>
> But when you do so (ahem), please use the correct link, because their
> permalinks, well, aren't.
>
>http://url.ie/2ero
>

This works fine.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread John Smith
2009/9/11 Richard Fairhurst :

> * Please "vote up" this suggestion for Google's Data Liberation Front:
>
>   http://moderator.appspot.com/#8/e=43649

That link didn't work for me, hopefully this one works for others:

http://moderator.appspot.com/#11/e=43649&t=agltb2RlcmF0b3JyLwsSCERvcnlVc2VyIiF1Njk2YjlmYTRkNzU1ZWJiZWEzYWQwOWFlYzczYWI2NzcM

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Re: [OSM-talk] Vote for Google to liberate their aerial imagery - *please help*

2009-09-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst

I wrote:
> * Please "vote up" this suggestion for Google's Data Liberation Front:
>   *NOT*   http://moderator.appspot.com/#8/e=43649

But when you do so (ahem), please use the correct link, because their
permalinks, well, aren't.

http://url.ie/2ero

will work.

Cheers!

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