Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ �...@import /skins/common/shared.css?164; �...@import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
More tips and tricks on getting wiki pages better fit for printing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Printable Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs You can get the individual tabs printable by adding the parameter, for instance: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Basic_editing?printable=yes Another option would be to move the JOSM guide to wikibooks. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page wikibooks uses as slightly different way of wiki-tagging, but it also gives you the possibility to assign individual pages to a book and print the complete book or let wikibooks create a pdf for us. I know this is a lot of work, but it would not be a bad thing for something as basic as a josm manual. Of course you would then have to move the josm manual pages away from the openstreetmap to prevent double work. Margie Roswell wrote: Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
today I was trying to print the xapi documentation. I haven't printed it, but when I look in preview (same with the JOSM documentation) things are cut off just as they were before, both with and without the printable parameter. I'm not enthusiastic about moving everything over to a different site to be able to print it. In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be addressed? Margie ps: wikibooks does look intriguing. Maybe we should do both.. move some over there... but please, can whoever has access to the osm wiki backend please fix the stylesheet issue, so that existing wiki.openstreetmap.org pages print properly? Thanks! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs You can get the individual tabs printable by adding the parameter, for instance: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Basic_editing?printable=yes Another option would be to move the JOSM guide to wikibooks. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page wikibooks uses as slightly different way of wiki-tagging, but it also gives you the possibility to assign individual pages to a book and print the complete book or let wikibooks create a pdf for us. I know this is a lot of work, but it would not be a bad thing for something as basic as a josm manual. Of course you would then have to move the josm manual pages away from the openstreetmap to prevent double work. Margie Roswell wrote: Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
Milo van der Linden wrote: For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs Have you actually tried printing it (or checked the print preview)? Of course that printable=yes link looks ok in the browser, but parts of the contents are still cut off from the left when printing. I also experience that with pages which don't contain any tabs or other magic syntax, e.g. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Node And yes, the effect is limited to the OSMWiki. Tobias Knerr ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
On 02/02/10 22:42, Margie Roswell wrote: In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be addressed? There is no backend to the site (well not that should need to be edited anyway). The style information all comes either from the standard mediawiki stylesheets (which are supplied as part of mediawiki and shouldn't be altered) or from specially named pages in the wiki. It may just be that there is an issue with the (fairly old) version of mediawiki we are running, in which case it will get resolved shortly when we move to the new server as mediawiki will be upgraded at that point. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
will get it updated in a few days. Just catching up on work. / Grant On 2 February 2010 23:16, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 02/02/10 22:42, Margie Roswell wrote: In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be addressed? There is no backend to the site (well not that should need to be edited anyway). The style information all comes either from the standard mediawiki stylesheets (which are supplied as part of mediawiki and shouldn't be altered) or from specially named pages in the wiki. It may just be that there is an issue with the (fairly old) version of mediawiki we are running, in which case it will get resolved shortly when we move to the new server as mediawiki will be upgraded at that point. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
can't print from wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide Can someone please fix the print stylesheet? It's not working on my mac, on my windows, in Chrome, in Safari, in Firefox; Maybe it's my print driver/cables, but I asked my friend (who has a PC ) to print it, and his is chopped off as well. In essence, no matter what I do, a third of the page doesn't appear. It chops off the left side. Weird... Im not having this problem with other pages, but I think everything on the wiki.openstreetmap.org site is doing this for me. (Am I--with my friend--the only one(s) with this problem?) Best Regards, Margie -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
Margie Roswell wrote: can't print from wiki This may be a very silly question, but given that that page is tabbed wouldn't you be better off pasting each tab contents into a new document and editing out the stuff that's not relevant to a paper copy (links to other wiki pages, for example)? Then you can format so that it looks sensible on paper, too. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
pasting each tab contents into a new document
I did that as a solution the other day, and lost all the graphics.
editing out the stuff that's not relevant to a paper copy
BTW, generally a good print.css stylesheet removes links that are not
relevant to paper copy.
In any case, I'm working on a new Mac, and very out of sorts with
everything. Extremely productive yesterday (finished that Haiti GPS
video). Nothing's getting done today.
I hope, that no matter how many work-arounds we can do, that someone
can fix what I assume is a stylesheet problem? Not really sure...
I'm looking at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164
and I see these {display:none} selectors:
.noprint,
div#jump-to-nav,
div.top,
div#column-one,
#colophon,
.editsection,
.toctoggle,
.tochidden,
div#f-poweredbyico,
div#f-copyrightico,
li#viewcount,
li#about,
li#disclaimer,
li#privacy {
/* Hides all the elements irrelevant for printing */
display: none;
But not sure that anything there is the problem.
Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected
pages?
Margie
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:27 PM, SomeoneElse
li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Margie Roswell wrote:
can't print from wiki
This may be a very silly question, but given that that page is tabbed
wouldn't you be better off pasting each tab contents into a new document
and editing out the stuff that's not relevant to a paper copy (links to
other wiki pages, for example)?
Then you can format so that it looks sensible on paper, too.
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
--
Margie
http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org
http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org
http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org
http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book
___
talk mailing list
talk@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
