Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-16 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
wrote:

> Perhaps we could use something like user talk pages on Wikipedia so >1
> user doesn't personally contact someone regarding the same issue. But
> that's another matter.
>

+1

I think the easiest way is to add diary-like comments to the OSM user pages.
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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-16 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
 wrote:
> The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large parts of
> the planet:
>
>    http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ropino/edits
>
> [...]
>
> Perhaps these edits are OK. But I don't have time to check them.

"These edits look a bit odd and cover a large area, and they're being
made rapidly. I don't have time to check this right now"

"I know, I'll just ask the mailing list gnomes. I'll probably get 1-2
replies because someone must know this editor"

Or so I thought yesterday. Ropino actually sent me a mail via osm.org
yesterday at around 14:00 explaining the edits he was doing and
promising to add more informative summaries.

I'm really sorry about bothering this well-meaning fellow editor by
suddenly getting a tsunami of t...@-related messages because I didn't
have 10 minutes at the time to check some of his edits myself.

I've sent him a message to that effect.

Perhaps we could use something like user talk pages on Wikipedia so >1
user doesn't personally contact someone regarding the same issue. But
that's another matter.

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Nakor

> Set up a RSS feed from ITO's OSM Mapper at 
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map
>
>
>   
Maybe I am not looking in the right place but I did not see any kind of 
RSS feed there. Waht should I do to get it?

  Thanks,

N.

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large parts of
> the planet:

As he is from Germany, I had a word with him and he says that (1) he's 
not using a bot, just loading stuff from tagwatch into JOSM, and (2) 
he's definitely well-meaning and will put better changeset descriptions 
in the future. He also did not intend do delete tags and will be extra 
careful in the future.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Peter Miller

On 15 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Chris Hill wrote:

> David Earl wrote:
>> On 15/09/2009 16:47, Jonas Svensson wrote:
>>
>>> Besides check all those edits, what would be the best way to see if
>>> there are any changes in my area by that person? I have found one
>>> bad edit so far.
>>>
>>
>> Set up a RSS feed from ITO's OSM Mapper at
>> http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map
>>
>> That way you can mentor you area for changes by anyone.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
> ITO's feed is a great service, I just wish it was not a couple of days
> out of date.
>
Many apologies for the current delays at getting the information on  
OSM Mapper updated.

We are running a couple of days behind at present in general which is  
not ideal and now we have a technical hitch which is going to take a  
couple of days to fix - sorry about that.

Fyi, we have already done about half the technical work to speed up  
the import considerably and just need the time to finish it off but we  
have to juggle OSM work and commercial work.

Do also remember that we don't report on nodes yet, only ways so OSM  
Mapper won't yet spot isolated nodes being moved. Again we have work  
in progress to add nodes into the picture.



Regards,



Peter Miller
ITO World Ltd

> Cheers, Chris
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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Chris Hill
David Earl wrote:
> On 15/09/2009 16:47, Jonas Svensson wrote:
>   
>> Besides check all those edits, what would be the best way to see if 
>> there are any changes in my area by that person? I have found one 
>> bad edit so far.
>> 
>
> Set up a RSS feed from ITO's OSM Mapper at 
> http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map
>
> That way you can mentor you area for changes by anyone.
>
> David
>
>   
ITO's feed is a great service, I just wish it was not a couple of days 
out of date.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread David Earl
On 15/09/2009 16:47, Jonas Svensson wrote:
> Besides check all those edits, what would be the best way to see if 
> there are any changes in my area by that person? I have found one 
> bad edit so far.

Set up a RSS feed from ITO's OSM Mapper at 
http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map

That way you can mentor you area for changes by anyone.

David


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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Jonas Svensson
On 15 Sep 2009 at 14:11, Tom Hughes wrote:

> On 15/09/09 13:54, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> > The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large
> > parts of the planet:
> >
> >  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ropino/edits
> 
> That bot has been on the loose for ages.

Besides check all those edits, what would be the best way to see if 
there are any changes in my area by that person? I have found one 
bad edit so far.

/Jonas


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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Karl Guggisberg
Hi Avar,

> (you really have to squint to see tag/node changes on the current history 
> page).
You might use the history viewer in JOSM instead. It compares two arbitrary 
versions of a primitive and highlights the
differences with different colors.

-- Karl 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] Im 
Auftrag von Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. September 2009 15:24
An: openstreetmap
Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason  
wrote:
> I've looked at some of the edits you're making and some of them seem 
> to be removing tags, e.g.:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25310980/history
>
> It's obvious to anyone looking at that data that one=yes was supposed 
> to mean oneway=yes. So that edit shouldn't have been made, any human 
> looking at that data would know to change the tag instead of removing 
> it (perhaps you're using JOSM's validator?) """"

correction:

Actually he did add oneway=yes. I misread the diff since he also removed 
created_by=* (you really have to squint to see tag/node changes on the current 
history page).

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
 wrote:
> I've looked at some of the edits you're making and some of them seem
> to be removing tags, e.g.:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25310980/history
>
> It's obvious to anyone looking at that data that one=yes was supposed
> to mean oneway=yes. So that edit shouldn't have been made, any human
> looking at that data would know to change the tag instead of removing
> it (perhaps you're using JOSM's validator?)
> 

correction:

Actually he did add oneway=yes. I misread the diff since he also
removed created_by=* (you really have to squint to see tag/node
changes on the current history page).

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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:11:37PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote:
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino
> 
> On 15/09/09 13:54, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> 
> > The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large parts of
> > the planet:
> >
> >  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ropino/edits
> 
> That bot has been on the loose for ages.

But still unacceptable:

Way History: 37775792
Edited at:  Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:11:35 +
Edited by:  Ropino
Version:3
In changeset:   2491931
Tags:   
highway = track
Nodes:  
443131217 (also part of way 24878690)
443131220 (also part of way Tostedter Weg (4923920))


Edited at:  Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:02:11 +
Edited by:  smarties
Version:2
In changeset:   2466136
Tags:   
highway = track
moountain = yes
Nodes:  
443131217 (also part of way 24878690)
443131220 (also part of way Tostedter Weg (4923920)) 


Its deleting random tags probably users made a spelling error
but nevertheless might be useful. The bot decides which tags
are allowed ???

*Grmpf*

Flo
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Re: [OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Tom Hughes
On 15/09/09 13:54, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:

> The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large parts of
> the planet:
>
>  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ropino/edits

That bot has been on the loose for ages.

Tom

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http://www.compton.nu/

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[OSM-talk] "corrections" by Ropino

2009-09-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
The user Ropino is making some sort of cleanup edits to large parts of
the planet:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ropino/edits

What follows is a mail I sent to him on the site. But it would be
useful to get more eyeballs on these edits.


Hello there.

Firstly when you're making mass-edits that span most of the planet and
get announced to hundreds of people can you please specify in more
detail what you're fixing/changing than saying "corrections".

I've looked at some of the edits you're making and some of them seem
to be removing tags, e.g.:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25310980/history

It's obvious to anyone looking at that data that one=yes was supposed
to mean oneway=yes. So that edit shouldn't have been made, any human
looking at that data would know to change the tag instead of removing
it (perhaps you're using JOSM's validator?)


Perhaps these edits are OK. But I don't have time to check them.

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