Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi Simon, Thank you for the idea! I just checked that but it wouldn't help because most airports are islands themselves (the runways and the aerodrome node are not connected to highways). So I added a lot of new starting nodes. We'll see if that helps. If you find a city where every single way has an error marker, please let me know so I can even more starting points. Best regards, Harald > >> But anyway: First thing to try is add some more starting points. Just >> give me a location and the map will look cleaner after the next update! > > You could add airports to your seeding locations, some rural communites will > only be accessible via air. > > Simon. > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:48:24 +0200 Harald Kleiner wrote: > But anyway: First thing to try is add some more starting points. Just > give me a location and the map will look cleaner after the next update! You could add airports to your seeding locations, some rural communites will only be accessible via air. Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi Eugene, > I have a question, how does the tool determine whether a set of ways is > a "floating island" or not? The motto of this check is "you can go everywhere from everywhere". There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. This check works best with a dense network of highways that is almost completely mapped, as we have in Europe. But anyway: First thing to try is add some more starting points. Just give me a location and the map will look cleaner after the next update! Best regards, Harald ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi Harald, Thanks for this great QA tool! I have a question, how does the tool determine whether a set of ways is a "floating island" or not? The problem is, the road network in most of the islands of an archipelagic country like the Philippines is being reported as "floating islands". This makes this type of bug quite useless for determining the "true" floating islands. Thanks, Eugene On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Harald Kleiner wrote: > ...well, almost. > > From now on, the site > http://keepright.ipax.at > will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for > Africa, Asia and South America. > Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at > http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ > > What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want > to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a > medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running > the program. > > Have a nice weekend! > > Harald > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Thanks Harald! I just saw this email now, and looking at the map, this will help fix a lot of errors in South Africa (and elsewhere of course)! This is just what we needed. Regards, Brendan Barrett > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:53:31 +0200 > From: e9625...@gmx.at > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global > > ...well, almost. > > From now on, the site > http://keepright.ipax.at > will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for > Africa, Asia and South America. > Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at > http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ > > What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want > to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a > medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running > the program. > > Have a nice weekend! > > Harald > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _ What can you do with the new Windows Live? Find out http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
--- On Sun, 19/7/09, Harald Kleiner wrote: > And you have to take into account downloading the 1.9GB > planet dump once > a week. Your traffic policy should allow that. Or just download the change file (about 20M/day) and combine it with the previous day to spit out the new day. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi Jack, > How much processing power are we talking of?[1] I could get my PC to > run the report for where ever the need arises to run a report. I don't know your laptop but I don't think it would work well. The North America dump and the Europe dump are equal in size (1.9GB), so you can compare the two. On my PC one run takes four days. That's why there's only one update per week. My machine is a cheap dual core AMD CPU with 6GB of RAM and a RAID0 built of two new hard disks. Critical components (bottlenecks) are the disks. The database as a whole needs 70GB on disk. And you have to take into account downloading the 1.9GB planet dump once a week. Your traffic policy should allow that. > Only > problem is that I don't have the hosting capabilities to put in > online. You could just upload the results to my existing site. You need not set up your own webspace > > Is it possible to setup some sort of cname re-direct thinggy so people > could just go to keepright.osm.org or such like. That way it can be > found much easier. > There is discussion going on on the mailing list about including openstreetbugs into the main OSM site and enabling other services to upload their bug reports into that database tables and thus make them appear on the main site Harald > > Jack Stringer > [1] should run it on a laptop I have spare. > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
How much processing power are we talking of?[1] I could get my PC to run the report for where ever the need arises to run a report. Only problem is that I don't have the hosting capabilities to put in online. Is it possible to setup some sort of cname re-direct thinggy so people could just go to keepright.osm.org or such like. That way it can be found much easier. Jack Stringer [1] should run it on a laptop I have spare. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > Great stuff! I've been using keepright in London for a while now. > The most common form of error is an almost-junction. It seems that many of > these could be fixed automatically, subject to manual confirmation. Is > there > any tool that can do this? Or an easy shortcut in Potlatch? - Gustav ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi Ian, Welcome! There's a README file in the sources. Check them out of subversion using this command: svn co https://keepright.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/keepright keepright The README explains the steps to take. Of course I'll try to help if you get stuck, best regards, Harald > > > I'd love to run it for North America. Are there fairly comprehensive > instructions somewhere? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Great stuff! I've been using keepright in London for a while now. The most common form of error is an almost-junction. It seems that many of these could be fixed automatically, subject to manual confirmation. Is there any tool that can do this? -- Ed Avis ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Am 19.07.2009 12:53, Harald Kleiner: > ...well, almost. > > From now on, the site > http://keepright.ipax.at > will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for > Africa, Asia and South America. > Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at > http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ > > What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want > to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a > medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running > the program. > > Have a nice weekend! > > Harald Awesome. Really appreciated for mapping in Asia. Thanks a lot to all involved. Claudius ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Harald Kleiner wrote: > ...well, almost. > > From now on, the site > http://keepright.ipax.at > will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for > Africa, Asia and South America. > Sweet! I've been waiting for this. This will help a lot in the QA effort. Thanks! :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Harald Kleiner wrote: > ...well, almost. > > From now on, the site > http://keepright.ipax.at > will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for > Africa, Asia and South America. > Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at > http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ > > What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want > to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a > medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running > the program. I'd love to run it for North America. Are there fairly comprehensive instructions somewhere? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
...well, almost. From now on, the site http://keepright.ipax.at will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for Africa, Asia and South America. Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running the program. Have a nice weekend! Harald ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
