[OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
Hello, Why in the tree specified tag landuse=meadow, but not natural=meadow? How is landuse=meadow used by people? This tag looks completely usable! So in Russia all meadows are tagged in different ways, from landuse=village_green to natural=heath/fell. Should we decide the tag landuse=meadow obsolete and replace it with natural=meadow? Same problem in wiki: 1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow 2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Dmeadow ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
Hi Aleksandr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow It may be cut for hay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay or grazed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grazing by livestock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock such as cattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle, sheep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep or goats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat. As you can see a meadow can be farmed by man. Cheers Dave F. Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: Hello, Why in the tree specified tag landuse=meadow, but not natural=meadow? How is landuse=meadow used by people? This tag looks completely usable! So in Russia all meadows are tagged in different ways, from landuse=village_green to natural=heath/fell. Should we decide the tag landuse=meadow obsolete and replace it with natural=meadow? Same problem in wiki: 1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow 2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Dmeadow ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:58:32PM +0400, Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: Hello, Why in the tree specified tag landuse=meadow, but not natural=meadow? How is landuse=meadow used by people? This tag looks completely usable! So in Russia all meadows are tagged in different ways, from landuse=village_green to natural=heath/fell. Should we decide the tag landuse=meadow obsolete and replace it with natural=meadow? For me a meadow is something actively used for agricultural purposes. Either to generate hay for cows etc - So typically i use it together with a barrier=fence on the way ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org Es ist ein grobes Missverständnis und eine Fehlwahrnehmung, dem Staat im Internet Zensur- und Überwachungsabsichten zu unterstellen. - - Bundesminister Dr. Wolfgang Schäuble -- 10. Juli in Berlin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
Why not landuse=farm? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarm 2009/9/22 Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org For me a meadow is something actively used for agricultural purposes. Either to generate hay for cows etc - So typically i use it together with a barrier=fence on the way ... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
Following this logic (may be ...), a lot of things can bring to landuse. Cows can drink from the lake, but we do not tag it as a landuse. Of course I understand that the meadow can somehow be farmed, but this is entirely optional. In the first meadow is a natural formation, which is usually formed by itself, without human intervention. 2009/9/22 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow It may be cut for hay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay or grazed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grazing by livestock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock such as cattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle, sheep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep or goats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat. As you can see a meadow can be farmed by man. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow we have three types of meadows: 1. Agricultural meadow 2. Transitional meadow 3. Perpetual meadow Agricultural meadow can be tagged as landuse=meadow and I think it's right. But what about transitional meadow and perpetual meadow? 2009/9/21 Aleksandr Dezhin a.dez...@gmail.com Hello, Why in the tree specified tag landuse=meadow, but not natural=meadow? How is landuse=meadow used by people? This tag looks completely usable! So in Russia all meadows are tagged in different ways, from landuse=village_green to natural=heath/fell. Should we decide the tag landuse=meadow obsolete and replace it with natural=meadow? Same problem in wiki: 1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow 2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Dmeadow ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
Then both can be used, depending whether they're farmed or not. OSM appears to have many valid alternatives. I've been told that this laxity is one of OSM's strengths. landuse=farm is IMO used when a fields use is not known, it could be more specific, as is indicated on the landuse wiki page. eg cattle, crops (maybe even going as far as saying wheat, barley etc). Not sure that reservoir should be under landuse. It's hardly land any more! Cheers Dave F. Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: Following this logic (may be ...), a lot of things can bring to landuse. Cows can drink from the lake, but we do not tag it as a landuse. Of course I understand that the meadow can somehow be farmed, but this is entirely optional. In the first meadow is a natural formation, which is usually formed by itself, without human intervention. 2009/9/22 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow It may be cut for hay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay or grazed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grazing by livestock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock such as cattle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle, sheep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep or goats http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat. As you can see a meadow can be farmed by man. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=meadow = natural=meadow ?
2009/9/21 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: landuse=farm is IMO used when a fields use is not known, it could be more specific, as is indicated on the landuse wiki page. eg cattle, crops (maybe even going as far as saying wheat, barley etc). AFAIR for disambiguity of landuse=farm there was the proposal of the 2 new tags farmyard and farmland http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/farmland But according to OSMdoc there are still 60548 occurencies of farm and just 13267 of farmland, so the decision is up to you (as always). Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
