Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On 8 July 2010 14:36, Tim McNamara wrote: > "Aotearoa New Zealand" would be a better name, at least in en-NZ [1]. It's a > much more politically correct term than "New Zealand"; we're not Dutch. "New i was never keen on basing my decisions upon manipulative empty-headed, ambiguous jargon like 'politically correct' despite that, 'Aotearoa New Zealand' may be the best bet for 'name=' ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On 8 July 2010 14:29, Robin Paulson wrote: > On 8 July 2010 00:29, Brian Quinion > wrote: > > 2 Part answer: > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/556706 > > > > Aotearoa is used because it is the default name if it can't find a > > language match. > > ah, interesting. that should probably be name:mi > > well spotted, i'll change that "Aotearoa New Zealand" would be a better name, at least in en-NZ [1]. It's a much more politically correct term than "New Zealand"; we're not Dutch. "New Zealand" is probably a good global default though. Tim [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand#Etymology ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On 8 July 2010 00:29, Brian Quinion wrote: > 2 Part answer: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/556706 > > Aotearoa is used because it is the default name if it can't find a > language match. ah, interesting. that should probably be name:mi well spotted, i'll change that ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Brian Quinion < openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk> wrote: > 2 Part answer: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/556706 > > Aotearoa is used because it is the default name if it can't find a > language match. > > Firefox sends a language sequence of EN-AU, EN, ... > IE apparently only sends EN-AU (no pure EN) > > This would seem to be a bug in IE - it should be sending a complete > list of languages in order not just the country specific version. > Or, alternatively, Nominatim could, seeing as there is no name:en-au tag, strip out the dialect part of the Accept-Language HTTP header (EN-AU --> EN) first to search for possible matches before defaulting to the default name. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > well, here's an odd thing: > > if i search for pahia from firefox 3.6, it returns 'Pahia, New Zealand' > if i search from IE7, it returns 'Pahia, Aotearoa' . Aotearoa is the > Maori name for New Zealand. or rather, new Zealand is the English name > for Aotearoa > > any suggestions why? > > can someone else try this, and see what happens 2 Part answer: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/556706 Aotearoa is used because it is the default name if it can't find a language match. Firefox sends a language sequence of EN-AU, EN, ... IE apparently only sends EN-AU (no pure EN) This would seem to be a bug in IE - it should be sending a complete list of languages in order not just the country specific version. -- Brian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:40:28 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: > Chrome - Pahia, New Zealand > Firefox 3.6.6 - Pahia, New Zealand > IE 8.0 - Pahia, Aotearoa > > Weird. Checking my language options in IE, the only language listed > is English, Australian. Seems to be a general problem. I get the same results for IE and Firefox (mine is IE 7 and FF 3.6.6). And I'm in the Netherlands with English versions of the programs, and the only language in IE is Dutch. Maarten > On 7 July 2010 12:40, Robin Paulson wrote: >> well, here's an odd thing: >> >> if i search for pahia from firefox 3.6, it returns 'Pahia, New Zealand' >> if i search from IE7, it returns 'Pahia, Aotearoa' . Aotearoa is the >> Maori name for New Zealand. or rather, new Zealand is the English name >> for Aotearoa >> >> any suggestions why? >> >> can someone else try this, and see what happens >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
Chrome - Pahia, New Zealand Firefox 3.6.6 - Pahia, New Zealand IE 8.0 - Pahia, Aotearoa Weird. Checking my language options in IE, the only language listed is English, Australian. Stephen On 7 July 2010 12:40, Robin Paulson wrote: > well, here's an odd thing: > > if i search for pahia from firefox 3.6, it returns 'Pahia, New Zealand' > if i search from IE7, it returns 'Pahia, Aotearoa' . Aotearoa is the > Maori name for New Zealand. or rather, new Zealand is the English name > for Aotearoa > > any suggestions why? > > can someone else try this, and see what happens > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
On Wed, July 7, 2010 11:40, Robin Paulson wrote: > well, here's an odd thing: > can someone else try this, and see what happens Spooky! Could be a language/region setting in your browser. I am in Korea and Internet Explorer returns "Hawaii" in Hangul (Korean language), but Firefox returns "Hawaii". I think I changed my Firefox settings to accept/prefer English language, but I didn't make any such changes to IE (because I never use it). Here are my results: Firefox 3.5.10: Results from OpenStreetMap Nominatim Town Pahia, New Zealand Residential Paehia, Honolulu County, Hawaii, United States of America More results Results from GeoNames Pahia Point, New Zealand Pahia Hill, New Zealand Pahia, New Zealand Pahia, New Zealand Mont Pahia, French Polynesia IE 6.0.2900 Results from OpenStreetMap Nominatim Town Pahia, Aotearoa Residential Paehia, Honolulu County, 하와이, United States of America More results Results from GeoNames Pahia Point, New Zealand Pahia Hill, New Zealand Pahia, New Zealand Pahia, New Zealand Mont Pahia, French Polynesia HTH, Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] maori/english search oddities for nz towns
well, here's an odd thing: if i search for pahia from firefox 3.6, it returns 'Pahia, New Zealand' if i search from IE7, it returns 'Pahia, Aotearoa' . Aotearoa is the Maori name for New Zealand. or rather, new Zealand is the English name for Aotearoa any suggestions why? can someone else try this, and see what happens ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
