[OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
hallo, I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up on the map. so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more and more problems. and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right way to handel this problem. thanks in advance, wouter (wvdp) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
On 2014-09-06 18:22, wouter van der plas wrote: hallo, I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [1] and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up on the map. so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more and more problems. and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right way to handel this problem. Yes, a lot is wrong there. Unclosed areas, multipolygons that don't add up, unconnected nodes that belong to waterways that are there, waterways that are cut up in strange pieces that should connect but don't. And to top it off it doesn't line up nicely with bing maps, so fixing it is a bit of a puzzle. But I'm doing some now. Reagrds, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
Hi Wouter, I find it works best if a river’s edges are closed polygons and tagged as a areas (i.e. “riverbank”) instead of lines. A riverbank can then assigned to a multipolygon using the “outer” role. If using the ID editor to convert lines to areas, you may have to type the new tag into a slot under “All Tags”. Any islands can be tagged as an “area” and assigned the “inner” role for the corresponding riverbank outer polygon. To avoid exceeding the 2000 node upload limit, several abutting multi-polygons may be needed along the length of a river. One example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.9323/-111.4986 Good luck! Dave From: wouter van der plas [mailto:wouterv.dp...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 10:22 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix hallo, I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up on the map. so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more and more problems. and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right way to handel this problem. thanks in advance, wouter (wvdp) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
On 2014-09-07 18:59, David Jenne wrote: I find it works best if a river’s edges are closed polygons and tagged as a areas (i.e. “riverbank”) instead of lines. A riverbank can then assigned to a multipolygon using the “outer” role. If using the ID editor to convert lines to areas, you may have to type the new tag into a slot under “All Tags”. Any islands can be tagged as an “area” and assigned the “inner” role for the corresponding riverbank outer polygon. To avoid exceeding the 2000 node upload limit, several abutting multi-polygons may be needed along the length of a river. What I also see a lot is that an inner way of a multipolygon is untagged and has a second way overlapping it on all nodes which is then tagged with the landuse of that island. This is uncessecary. The renderer is smart enough that you can tag inner ways with the proper landuse. And if 2 ways overlapping is bad enough, I've seen up to 6 ways overlapping! The number of items I'm deleting while cleaning this up is massive. Regards, Maarten FROM: wouter van der plas [mailto:wouterv.dp...@gmail.com] SENT: Saturday, September 06, 2014 10:22 AM TO: talk@openstreetmap.org SUBJECT: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix hallo, I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [2] and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up on the map. so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more and more problems. and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right way to handel this problem. thanks in advance, wouter (wvdp) Links: -- [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.9323/-111.4986 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
Screen full of red is not what you want to see on the OSM Inspector's Multipolygon checker! :( http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-89.73150&lat=29.64420&zoom=10&opacity=0.91&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2014-09-07 18:59, David Jenne wrote: > > I find it works best if a river’s edges are closed polygons and >> tagged as a areas (i.e. “riverbank”) instead of lines. A >> riverbank can then assigned to a multipolygon using the “outer” >> role. If using the ID editor to convert lines to areas, you may have >> to type the new tag into a slot under “All Tags”. Any islands can >> be tagged as an “area” and assigned the “inner” role for the >> corresponding riverbank outer polygon. To avoid exceeding the 2000 >> node upload limit, several abutting multi-polygons may be needed along >> the length of a river. >> > > What I also see a lot is that an inner way of a multipolygon is untagged > and has a second way overlapping it on all nodes which is then tagged with > the landuse of that island. This is uncessecary. The renderer is smart > enough that you can tag inner ways with the proper landuse. > And if 2 ways overlapping is bad enough, I've seen up to 6 ways > overlapping! > > The number of items I'm deleting while cleaning this up is massive. > > Regards, > Maarten > > FROM: wouter van der plas [mailto:wouterv.dp...@gmail.com] >> SENT: Saturday, September 06, 2014 10:22 AM >> TO: talk@openstreetmap.org >> SUBJECT: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix >> >> hallo, >> >> I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: >> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [2] >> >> and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up >> on the map. >> >> so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. >> >> i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more >> and more problems. >> >> and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. >> >> so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right >> way to handel this problem. >> >> thanks in advance, >> >> wouter (wvdp) >> >> Links: >> -- >> [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.9323/-111.4986 >> [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
On 2014-09-08 16:13, Brad Neuhauser wrote: Screen full of red is not what you want to see on the OSM Inspector's Multipolygon checker! :( Luckily for me that's not an area that I worked on. And yes: there are a lot of incorrect multipolygons. Usually all the nodes are there, but just connected incorrectly. It is a big mess there. Regards, Maarten http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-89.73150&lat=29.64420&zoom=10&opacity=0.91&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes [4] On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-09-07 18:59, David Jenne wrote: I find it works best if a river’s edges are closed polygons and tagged as a areas (i.e. “riverbank”) instead of lines. A riverbank can then assigned to a multipolygon using the “outer” role. If using the ID editor to convert lines to areas, you may have to type the new tag into a slot under “All Tags”. Any islands can be tagged as an “area” and assigned the “inner” role for the corresponding riverbank outer polygon. To avoid exceeding the 2000 node upload limit, several abutting multi-polygons may be needed along the length of a river. What I also see a lot is that an inner way of a multipolygon is untagged and has a second way overlapping it on all nodes which is then tagged with the landuse of that island. This is uncessecary. The renderer is smart enough that you can tag inner ways with the proper landuse. And if 2 ways overlapping is bad enough, I've seen up to 6 ways overlapping! The number of items I'm deleting while cleaning this up is massive. Regards, Maarten FROM: wouter van der plas [mailto:wouterv.dp...@gmail.com] SENT: Saturday, September 06, 2014 10:22 AM TO: talk@openstreetmap.org SUBJECT: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix hallo, I was working in the area of new orleans. and i came to this area: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [1] [2] and i was missing some rivers that were taged but were not showing up on the map. so i found out that there was a broken link in the multie polygon. i tried to fix it but when went up and down the river there were more and more problems. and i tried fixing them all but i just dont have the knolage. so i hope that sombody else can fix them. and that this is the right way to handel this problem. thanks in advance, wouter (wvdp) Links: -- [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.9323/-111.4986 [2] [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [1] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk [3] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk [3] Links: -- [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/30.2417/-89.8358 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.9323/-111.4986 [3] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk [4] http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-89.73150&lat=29.64420&zoom=10&opacity=0.91&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-89.73150&lat=29.64420&zoom=10&opacity=0.91&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes wow! Partial import ? Vandalism ? Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] problems I cant fix
On 08/09/2014 15:21, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=multipolygon&lon=-89.73150&lat=29.64420&zoom=10&opacity=0.91&overlays=invalid_geometry_hull,duplicate_ways,intersections,intersection_lines,ring_not_closed_hull,ring_not_closed,unconnected_end_nodes,touching_inner_rings_hull,touching_inner_rings,role_mismatch_hull,role_mismatch,duplicate_tags_hull,duplicate_tags,multipolygons_type_is_boundary,type_is_boundary,ways,role_markers,way_end_nodes,way_nodes wow! Partial import ? Vandalism ? Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Redaction: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/305016 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
