Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?
I agree that rack and funicular should be specific tag for normal
railway types. The reason is, that there are railways, which are rack
(or cable) driven only in part of their route. And there could be also
rack tramway, funicular subway etc.
So I propose following tagging scheme:
railway=rail | light_rail | tram | subway ...
rack = no (default) | yes | {more specific type} (e.g. Riggenbach, Abt ...)
funicular ( or cable? ) = no | yes
I also propose to use this scheme to tag electrified railways (whose
can be clearly visual distinguished and therefore useful for
orientation).
electrified = no | yes | {more specific type} (e.g. caternary,
third_rail, fourth_rail, ...)
=TT=
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Alex Mauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
I think I know only 1 rack system - Snowdon mountain railway in Wales,
but I've come across several funicular systems on holidays round Europe.
There is a list of rack railways at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway#List_of_cog_and_rack_railways
IMHO we should use railway=funicular and railway=rack. We can allow
railway=incline, but prefer the more specific one.
I agree that we should prefer that people tag as specifically as
possible, but I think the more specific tagging belongs in a separate key.
incline railway seems to me to cover both systems, as well as some
others, adequately (hence my suggestion of such for the TIGER
migration, as there was and still is no official way to tag such
railways.)
Does the Tiger data make a distinction?
No.
-Alex Mauer hawke
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[OSM-talk] railway=incline?
Hello, I just want to ask whats the State of railway=incline? While it does not apear on map-features ist seems to be in use, as it can be found on the TIGER to OSM Attribute Map. They are not rendered however. Sven -- This APT has Super Cow Powers. (apt-get --help on debian woody) /me is [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Geggus wrote: | Hello, | | I just want to ask whats the State of railway=incline? | | While it does not apear on map-features ist seems to be in use, as it can be | found on the TIGER to OSM Attribute Map. What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like it's just a railway on a slope. Robert (Jamie) Munro -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6SZcz+aYVHdncI0RAne6AJ0bHmoDOWrSgFm6LXneZhkik2fTpgCeMSsl F0pTnNqoOsx09BMFycxnpY0= =r1Nx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: Sent: 25 March 2008 4:21 PM To: Sven Geggus; Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Geggus wrote: | Hello, | | I just want to ask whats the State of railway=incline? | | While it does not apear on map-features ist seems to be in use, as it can be | found on the TIGER to OSM Attribute Map. What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like it's just a railway on a slope. Absolutely right. There are still some rail inclines where wagons are winched rather than under their own steam but on the whole nowadays the power is on-board and some form of rack and pinion is in use. Cheers Andy Robert (Jamie) Munro -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH6SZcz+aYVHdncI0RAne6AJ0bHmoDOWrSgFm6LXneZhkik2fTpgCeMSsl F0pTnNqoOsx09BMFycxnpY0= =r1Nx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like it's just a railway on a slope. Absolutely right. There are still some rail inclines where wagons are winched rather than under their own steam but on the whole nowadays the power is on-board and some form of rack and pinion is in use. Hmm, I think that's more absolutely wrong. A funicular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funicular ) is apparently by definition cable driven, and *not* using the rack-and-pinion, self-powered method. The latter would be a rack railway or cog railway. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway ) incline railway seems to me to cover both systems, as well as some others, adequately (hence my suggestion of such for the TIGER migration, as there was and still is no official way to tag such railways.) -Alex Mauer hawke ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline?
Alex Mauer wrote: Sent: 25 March 2008 9:16 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] railway=incline? Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: What does it mean? Is that like a funicular railway? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like it's just a railway on a slope. Absolutely right. There are still some rail inclines where wagons are winched rather than under their own steam but on the whole nowadays the power is on-board and some form of rack and pinion is in use. Hmm, I think that's more absolutely wrong. A funicular (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funicular ) is apparently by definition cable driven, and *not* using the rack-and-pinion, self-powered method. The latter would be a rack railway or cog railway. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway ) I clearly got it wrong, apologies for that. So the question is whether to group them under a single definition or to split between funicular an rack/cog. I'm sure there will be those that will want to label them precisely if they come across them, after all they are quite unique. incline railway seems to me to cover both systems, as well as some others, adequately (hence my suggestion of such for the TIGER migration, as there was and still is no official way to tag such railways.) Was certainly logical for TIGER, especially if there was no other data at the time. Cheers Andy -Alex Mauer hawke ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
