Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
Well, when I did my original edit in that area because of the collapse, somebody had already deleted the small section that collapsed. So, I just added the missing access=no tags on the other ways. Plus, it didn't hurt that I was on my PC already and watching the local 11PM (EDT) news and they mentioned that there was a bridge collapse on an Interstate. -James (rickmastfan67) From: cliff...@snowandsnow.us Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 16:36:44 -0700 CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly Let's forget about Google Maps for a moment that give thanks to the contributors who updated I-5 on OpenStreetMap. Alan, rickmastfan67, Sundance and katpatuka have all contributed to the update. It is dedicated mappers like these that make OSM great. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
Let's forget about Google Maps for a moment that give thanks to the contributors who updated I-5 on OpenStreetMap. Alan, rickmastfan67, Sundance and katpatuka have all contributed to the update. It is dedicated mappers like these that make OSM great. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM To: talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almo st-quickly-it-6C10067906 If I remember correctly, we had it marked as access=no and the segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs to get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the article) and let them know about OSM pawning Google here. -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
For the press it's simple: everybody knows Google, Google is 'hot'. Openstreetmap is relatively unknown. So writing about Openstreetmap won't attract a lot of viewers for an article. And I wonder whether the community really wants to see Openstreetmap turn into a big player which attracts a lot of press coverage. That is, I don't read it in OSMF's mission statement: - To make OSM data available for anyone (for editing and in whole). - The data being current. - The data to approach geographic truth (or “ground truth”). - That humans add and curate data. - That the data and responsibility for it belong to all contributors. - To facilitate decision-making in the community where necessary. - To be the ultimate “court” of conflict resolution. Cheers, Johan 2013/5/25 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? ** ** Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. ** ** *From:* James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM *To:* talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly ** ** http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almost-quickly-it-6C10067906 If I remember correctly, we had it marked as access=no and the segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs to get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the article) and let them know about OSM pawning Google here. -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
Things like these and in general Google/Apple/insert your favorite corporation here-mania really only show how upside down the world is nowadays. Does OSM really want press like that? I'm not sure... true, it would get the word out about OSM but is that the proper way to publicize? I think people don't really care that some bridge was removed or added or whatever, they just see the word Google or Apple in the headline. How did Wikipedia become a household name? I don't know but I'm not sure if it was because they wanted to get silly publicity like this. I would bet it had more to do with the actual content and quality of their project. Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow easier because all of their work gets indexed by search engines and the more links to Wikipedia the better place in search results = automatic publicity to pretty much everyone who uses the internet. Back on topic, I don't think journalists who write those articles/headlines will be interested in OSM any time soon. And that's a good thing in my book. Paweł On Sat, May 25, 2013, at 9:40, Paul Norman wrote: How can we get more effective press coverage from events? Part of it is probably more people volunteering for the communications working group, but is there more? Note: If you want to help with the CWG, email communicat...@osmfoundation.org. From: James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 10:10 PM To: talk...@openstreetmap.org; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/collapsed-i-5-bridge-gone-google-maps-almo st-quickly-it-6C10067906 If I remember correctly, we had it marked as access=no and the segment removed about an hour faster than on Google. Somebody needs to get ahold of Rosa from NBC (who did the article) and let them know about OSM pawning Google here. -James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
On 25/mag/2013, at 10:33, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm wrote: Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow easier because all of their work gets indexed by search engines Also osm is indexed by search engines cheers Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
On 05/25/2013 12:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow easier because all of their work gets indexed by search engines Also osm is indexed by search engines Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in the internet? When you search for Vienna or Berlin for example, Wikipedia is the top result. Link to OSM is nowhere to be found (at least on the first 10 pages of search results, after that I gave up looking for it). Paweł ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
Paweł Paprota writes: Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in the internet? Sure. I link to them all the time (warning, these are all associated with railroads, so if you're not a railfan, click at your peril!): This search: https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/openstreetmap%20%22russell%20nelson%22 yields: In which I give instructions on how to make your own similar links: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/adUrTxQcFdu https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/QWSPRQfGmfF https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/GHVeUbUUe1f https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/F21WCHtVFMZ https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/2pyBNZA5xTG https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/PbN8gt8jq2f https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/LJ72jibjbcY https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/Wughutz9aZR https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/PAqbT8BAgbz https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/EbwvTgSFG4o https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/EUonnp8r2Rq https://plus.google.com/u/0/102355438470080501971/posts/7ySW2GZnuJ3 http://railroad.net/forums/search.php?st=0sk=tsd=dsr=postskeywords=openstreetmap https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/592687384098114/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/592649574101895/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/591138054253047/?comment_id=591147230918796offset=0total_comments=2 https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/589269787773207/ -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google Maps being praised for removing I-5 colasped bridge quickly
Am 25/mag/2013 um 12:22 schrieb Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm: Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in the internet? Yes, I noted this because of a misspelled street name, but it also works for correctly spelled ones, if you put osm to the search term you'll see them sooner. Being indexed doesn't of course guarantee that you are in the top results. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=osm+via+roma Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
