Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread AJH
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:11:57 +, Andy Allan wrote:

I'd like to promote the term untraceable editing or something
similar. What we're left with is still anonymous, just that we
(non-server-admin) people can differentiate between two anonymous
accounts. We'll still have no idea who they are.

The big benefits from OSM are likely to be in the less developed
world, where regimes aren't going to welcome the maps and where much
input is needed. Why not have a measure of completeness of the map
and only moderate changes after that level is reached?

AJH


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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

AJH wrote:
 I'd like to promote the term untraceable editing or something
 similar. What we're left with is still anonymous, just that we
 (non-server-admin) people can differentiate between two anonymous
 accounts. We'll still have no idea who they are.
 
 The big benefits from OSM are likely to be in the less developed
 world, where regimes aren't going to welcome the maps and where much
 input is needed. Why not have a measure of completeness of the map
 and only moderate changes after that level is reached?

Nobody was talking about moderation.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Pieren
Looking backward into archives, it seems that only one or two persons
are blocking the change...
I know one friend who stopped contributing to the project when he saw
his work anonymously downgraded and how easy it was. Probably he is
not the only one in this case.

All arguments have been already presented and discussed x time and
nothing change. I don't know what else we can do to convince them.

Pieren

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:

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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-23 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/1/23 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
 Looking backward into archives, it seems that only one or two persons
 are blocking the change...
 I know one friend who stopped contributing to the project when he saw
 his work anonymously downgraded and how easy it was. Probably he is
 not the only one in this case.

 All arguments have been already presented and discussed x time and
 nothing change. I don't know what else we can do to convince them.



Who's blocking it?!

It's been impossible to create any new anonymous users since the hack
day about a year ago anyway [1]. The only thing that needs doing is
denying edits if the user's public flag isn't set, with a suitable
error code. Submit 1x patch against API 0.6 / API 0.5 is my
suggestion.

Dave


[1] http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/7634

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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-21 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
 Letting 3rd party web applications write to the database isn't solved,
 but is there anyone using such a tool?

Not that it has anything to do with this discussion, since you need to
authenticate anyways, sorry.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-20 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
 Yay for 0.6 going live in March.

 Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing?

I'd certainly like to. If the consensus is that it's nothing to do
with 0.6 we can alternatively make it part of the relicensing :-)

 Postscript on all the usual stuff: no it doesn't mean people can find
 out where you are - you can still keep your GPS tracks private, it's
 just what you've edited. No you don't have to set a home location if
 you don't want to. No it's not a loss of privacy, you can make up a
 completely random username and no-one ever gets to know the e-mail
 address behind it. No it isn't anything to do with the licence. No
 we're not making existing anonymous work public, we're just asking
 them to go public from now on to continue editing.

I'd like to promote the term untraceable editing or something
similar. What we're left with is still anonymous, just that we
(non-server-admin) people can differentiate between two anonymous
accounts. We'll still have no idea who they are.

Cheers,
Andy

Kudos on your contacts list, btw. Wibble wibble.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-20 Thread Chris Hill
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 Yay for 0.6 going live in March.
   
+1
 Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing?
+1

Cheers, Chris


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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-20 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 08:37:32PM +, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 Yay for 0.6 going live in March.

\o/

 Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing?

Yes, please.

Yeah, it’s just an “I agree” post, sorry.

Simon
-- 
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that works.—John Gall


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Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous editing

2009-01-20 Thread Nop
Richard Fairhurst schrieb:
  Yay for 0.6 going live in March.
+1

  Can we take this opportunity to finally disable anonymous editing?
+1


bye
 Nop


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