Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
El Viernes, 24 de Julio de 2009, Andrew Gregory escribió: Having said all that, *would* anyone be interested in a ~USD$200 640x480 geotagging camera and GPS logger? I think I could buy a half-decent smartphone and a bluetooth GPS for *less* than that money. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Look at what you've created here - it's like nerd-vana! -- Howard Wolowitz (The Big Bang Theory, 2007) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Tristan Thomas wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed Hello all, I've just joined OSM, it's looking really interesting useful. I have a question, that I'm sure has been asked before, but I don't where I'm afraid. If you are looking for a cheap option, you might want to consider getting a GPS receiver without logging and instead hook it up to your mobile phone, in case you have a bluetooth enabled phone. With that you can get reasonable gps receivers from about 10 pounds onwards on ebay. Depending on the software you use on your phone, you can then also use it to display OSM maps, use it for routing or many of the other things you can do with more expensive GPS receivers like the Garmins. There is a wide variety of Software covering pretty much all mobile phones and all sorts of different features. You can find a fairly comprehensive list under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones Kai P.S. This is the receiver I have (not from that seller) and apart from the low battery life of only 8 hours, it is fairly decent. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-4NOW-BLUETOOTH-MOBILE-GPS-SAT-NAV-RECEIVER-SATNAV_W0QQitemZ360164653539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mobile_Home_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET?hash=item53db7c79e3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|293%3A1|294%3A50 The software I use on my phone is GpsMid ( http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/ ) I'm looking for the cheapest tracker possible really, probably off eBay(UK). Any recommendations for a bargain? Cheers! /div ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Aha, yes, I think that'll be what I go for, thanks! On 24/07/2009 10:24, Kai Krueger wrote: Tristan Thomas wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed Hello all, I've just joined OSM, it's looking really interesting useful. I have a question, that I'm sure has been asked before, but I don't where I'm afraid. If you are looking for a cheap option, you might want to consider getting a GPS receiver without logging and instead hook it up to your mobile phone, in case you have a bluetooth enabled phone. With that you can get reasonable gps receivers from about 10 pounds onwards on ebay. Depending on the software you use on your phone, you can then also use it to display OSM maps, use it for routing or many of the other things you can do with more expensive GPS receivers like the Garmins. There is a wide variety of Software covering pretty much all mobile phones and all sorts of different features. You can find a fairly comprehensive list under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones Kai P.S. This is the receiver I have (not from that seller) and apart from the low battery life of only 8 hours, it is fairly decent. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-4NOW-BLUETOOTH-MOBILE-GPS-SAT-NAV-RECEIVER-SATNAV_W0QQitemZ360164653539QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Mobile_Home_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET?hash=item53db7c79e3_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1683|293%3A1|294%3A50 The software I use on my phone is GpsMid ( http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/ ) I'm looking for the cheapest tracker possible really, probably off eBay(UK). Any recommendations for a bargain? Cheers! /div ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Viernes, 24 de Julio de 2009, Andrew Gregory escribió: Having said all that, *would* anyone be interested in a ~USD$200 640x480 geotagging camera and GPS logger? I think I could buy a half-decent smartphone and a bluetooth GPS for *less* than that money. Or a mobile phone with built-in GPS. The cheapest I can find in the Netherlands is a Nokia N78 with GPS (TI GPS5300) and 3.1 MP camera for 200 (that is bare phone price, no subscription rate). There are loads of phones in the 200 - 250 pricerange, probably all with a camera. Usually, getting a phone together with a subscription means getting the phone for little or no money at all. I have no idea how good the GPS receivers on mobile phones are, but if that is the pricerange a homebuilt camera/logger has to go for, I'd opt for a mobile phone instead. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
--- On Fri, 24/7/09, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I have no idea how good the GPS receivers on mobile phones are, but if that is I've played with several GPS enabled mobile phones, mostly BB's and the G1, but they are pretty good in most cases. There is also A-GPS enabled phones too, and they would work indoors, in tunnels etc, and then you have phones that do both. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
I've been very impressed by the GPS performance of both my Nokia N96 and the Openmoko FreeRunner [1], and would certainly recommend that people think GPS if they're getting a new phone. Battery life suffers on both, of course, so you're not going to be logging as much as you can with a dedicated unit. Having said that, I've got a full day's logging out of both without any issue. Cheers, Joseph [1] http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/10 2009/7/24 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: I have no idea how good the GPS receivers on mobile phones are, but if that is I've played with several GPS enabled mobile phones, mostly BB's and the G1, but they are pretty good in most cases. There is also A-GPS enabled phones too, and they would work indoors, in tunnels etc, and then you have phones that do both. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
--- On Fri, 24/7/09, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: people think GPS if they're getting a new phone. Battery life suffers on both, of course, so you're not going to be logging as You can get after market batteries for some/most? phones that have increased capacity. You can also get some external batteries that will charge phones etc some even have solar panels. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Yes you're right, some spare batteries for the Nokia would be a good idea; I've got a stack for the Openmoko that are pretty useful. I have a flexible solar panel on my desk that we had been trialling with a number of mobile devices, although I managed to break it (and my boss another)... Still, it would have been good to strap to the outside of a backpack and use for a day of cycling / logging in the sunshine. Cheers, Joseph 2009/7/24 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: people think GPS if they're getting a new phone. Battery life suffers on both, of course, so you're not going to be logging as You can get after market batteries for some/most? phones that have increased capacity. You can also get some external batteries that will charge phones etc some even have solar panels. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Why don't you put one of those dynamos on the bike, go old skool. Jack On Jul 24, 2009 1:41 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you're right, some spare batteries for the Nokia would be a good idea; I've got a stack for the Openmoko that are pretty useful. I have a flexible solar panel on my desk that we had been trialling with a number of mobile devices, although I managed to break it (and my boss another)... Still, it would have been good to strap to the outside of a backpack and use for a day of cycling / logging in the sunshine. Cheers, Joseph 2009/7/24 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: people think GPS if they're... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
I'm not fit enough to move my bike _and_ power a phone ;-) 2009/7/24 Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com: Why don't you put one of those dynamos on the bike, go old skool. Jack On Jul 24, 2009 1:41 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you're right, some spare batteries for the Nokia would be a good idea; I've got a stack for the Openmoko that are pretty useful. I have a flexible solar panel on my desk that we had been trialling with a number of mobile devices, although I managed to break it (and my boss another)... Still, it would have been good to strap to the outside of a backpack and use for a day of cycling / logging in the sunshine. Cheers, Joseph 2009/7/24 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 24/7/09, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: people think GPS if they're... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
--- On Thu, 23/7/09, Tristan Thomas tristan.tho...@wikinewsie.org wrote: I'm looking for the cheapest tracker possible really, probably off eBay(UK). Any recommendations for a bargain? In a car or ? I grabbed a couple of cheap data loggers off ebay(AU), AU$70 inc postage, out of the pair I'd recommend a BT757 the most, seemed to be more sensitive than both a HTC Dream (AKA G1) and the other data logger I picked up GT-730F/L. The BT757 has a solar cell and claims 100+ hours on a single charge + if the cell can see the sun, it also came with a nifty suction cup holder, a car charger and a retractable USB cable. The only down side to this particular model is the 1M of flash, can store about 37,000 GPS points. I've set it up to record points every 10m and it logs at 1Hz. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
El Viernes, 24 de Julio de 2009, Tristan Thomas escribió: I'm looking for the cheapest tracker possible really, probably off eBay(UK). Any recommendations for a bargain? Well, search eBay for GPS recorder (d'uh) or GPS logger. There are cheap-o loggers from 40 bucks onwards. Any that can be configured to log one point every second will do. Be advised, though, that GPS logging is quite addictive. You'll be wanting a logger capable of logging data to an SD card in no time (so you don't have to download the data every day). I mean, who doesn't love OSM maps in an eTrex? Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Un ordenador no es un televisor ni un microondas, es una herramienta compleja. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
2009/7/23 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Be advised, though, that GPS logging is quite addictive. You'll be wanting a logger capable of logging data to an SD card in no time (so you don't have to download the data every day). I mean, who doesn't love OSM maps in an eTrex? Sorry to be off-topic, but has anyone looked in to building the perfect OSM GPS logger from parts? I wonder if the overall price would be less than $40 if we put together a GPS chipset, an SD card slot, and a simple microcontroller. No screen, just one mode: record every second to the SD card. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
--- On Thu, 23/7/09, Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: You'll be wanting a logger capable of logging data to an SD card in no time (so you don't have to download the data every day). I mean, who doesn't love OSM maps in an eTrex? I skipped the sd card variant and bought an eeePC instead, it can run JOSM and hook up to my phone via wifi and get GPRS, Edge or 3G :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
--- On Thu, 23/7/09, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to be off-topic, but has anyone looked in to building the perfect OSM GPS logger from parts? I wonder if the overall price would be less than $40 if we put together a GPS chipset, an SD card slot, and a simple microcontroller. No screen, just one mode: record every second to the SD card. I thought about that before buying a pre-made one, and the parts + labour make it unfeasable and actually more expensive than a pre-made one. I contacted someone that made their own, there was about 40 hours work in it apparently. http://www.gedanken.demon.co.uk/gps-sd-logger/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Sorry to be off-topic, but has anyone looked in to building the perfect OSMGPS logger from parts? I wonder if the overall price would be less than $40if we put together a GPS chipset, an SD card slot, and a simple microcontroller. No screen, just one mode: record every second to the SD card. There has been some talk of this on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_GPS I do some electronics and PIC programming as part of my work and for personal projects, so I've decided to try to make a small geotagging camera. I've already purchased a camera and GPS, and am now trying to shoehorn those, plus PIC, power supply, two AAs, SD card and connector, and a couple of switches into the smallest (currently 65x60x40mm) IP67 sealed (clear lid for camera) box I can. If I can figure out how to fit everything, I'll design a PCB or two and start on the firmware. Some pricing context: GPS: Globalsat EM-408: USD$48 Colour VGA camera, Electronics123: USD$48 Add the PCBs and it's probably another USD$50. Add the box, PIC, other components and freight and you'll probably get another USD$50. When it comes to electronics, you cannot compete with the economies of scale of the mass-market. Having said all that, *would* anyone be interested in a ~USD$200 640x480 geotagging camera and GPS logger? I'm not doing this particularly with the idea of going into production. I'm doing it mainly because I've always wanted to get some experience interfacing to SD cards. I have to admit it's also a pretty cool idea. ;-) -- Andrew Gregory mailto:and...@scss.com.au ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:47:56 -0500, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/23 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Sorry to be off-topic, but has anyone looked in to building the perfect OSM GPS logger from parts? I wonder if the overall price would be less than $40 if we put together a GPS chipset, an SD card slot, and a simple microcontroller. No screen, just one mode: record every second to the SD card. If anybody comes up with a building description for that, than I am more than willing to put it together and do tests. Hack I could make two of them and have one fixed in my car and the other mobile to do hiking trail and stuff. I am currently tracking with an eTrex Yellow, and want something that give me a higher density of points and a better transfer solution than RS232 (would like the stored track to contain HDOP and velocity in addition to position and elevation) -- Brgds Aun Johnsen via Webmail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Cheap Recorder
Tristan Thomas schreef: Hello all, I've just joined OSM, it's looking really interesting useful. I have a question, that I'm sure has been asked before, but I don't where I'm afraid. Hello, I was able to open a VDO Dayton MS2000 (bought in 2nd hand in French shop for 30 euros, no cd, no cables, but working). I replace the AutoUpgrade.exe with a file browser, and ... hup, I can look inside... Then I can use NoniGPSPPLOT, or other stuff... There is a description here for Mio etc, working for Navmans, Becker, in fact most winCE based GPSes should work with http://www.gpspassion.com/upload2/MioPocket%20Readme.html I also have a Tomtom, with TTracklog, be it my IGN/Evadeo was a last ex and only 50 euros ! Look what I have on a 256Mb SD: $ ls 256flash-autoupgrade/ AutoUpgrade.exe cemonitor.exe FileManCE.exe gosmorece Navigator.dat PNADesktop.exe StartUp BeeLineGPS evadeo FM_FileOperations.dll navi NoniGPSPlotPocketGPS-Map with cemonitor.exe I could find the port settings 1/9600 for the vdo, 2/4800 for the IGN. I copied FileManCE.exe to AutoUpgrade.exe and let it accompanied with FM_FileOperations.dll and there you go ... Marc -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/radio/swlist/ Stations list: http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/radio/txlist/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
