Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ....
On 11/08/2013 07:06 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: > >> Christmas trees are not an "event". > If you like. Call it "temporary feature", like tents in camping, > exhibitions, motor shows, food trucks, etc Sorry for the noise I just want to contribute to the conversation that even things that seem to be obvious like the temporary character of Christmas trees do not have to be true everywhere. Besides the following information might amuse some of the readers. As probably in most places of the christian world Christmas trees are a "temporary feature", but in Nicaragua we have them as a permanent phenomena for over 5 years now in the roundabouts of the capital: http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1911496,00.html This is not just a joke! It actually had a positive effect of recovering public spaces by the people. The illumination of the places led to an increased feeling of security and people like to spend their evenings there (the whole year). It looks like nobody has mapped them so far. We have to change this! :) At least we know now that it has to be mapped as "xmas:feature=tree". Cheers, Felix ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ....
Am 08.11.2013 12:17, schrieb Pieren: 2013/11/8 Jan Tappenbeck : Hoho ! in den letzten Tagen habe ich schon einige Anfragen bekommen - jetzt ist es wieder soweit die OSM XMAS-Karte [1] wird wieder aktuallisiert und es können die Daten wieder fleißig nachgeführt werden. Please, don't tag events in OSM. We don't delete roads when they are closed for one month. So don't add a christmass tree because it's there for 3 weeks. Add buildings and/or market places as much as you want but use apps like umap ([1]) for event map mashups. I deleted the 6 or 7 of your "xmas:feature" I found in France (mainly contributed by Germans), all coming from last year and, of course, never maintained (e.g. obsolete opening dates). Pieren BTW, wrong list ! [1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/ hi ! this theme is a funny mapping event to use in public relation. many use this one special event. regards Jan :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ...
Hello Pieren I am (as you) not very interested in Christmas trees, but I got a little offended by the tone of your answer to the OP. Please stay mellow, even when some Germans (was it necessary to stress the nationality?) map Christmas trees in your country. Pieren wrote on Fri, 8 Nov 2013 14:06:48 +0100: >Good point. Since it is not "verifiable" 92% of the time, it has >nothing to do in OSM. Just of curiosity: Can you point to me to the place where a consensus about this has been documented? We have several features in the database which are either - temporary and reoccurring OR - temporary and not reoccurring and thus - not verifiable (never) OR - verifiable, but verifiable less than 100% of the time Those features should all be deleted? Or is it a bit more nuanced than that? Nils ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ....
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: > Christmas trees are not an "event". If you like. Call it "temporary feature", like tents in camping, exhibitions, motor shows, food trucks, etc > I regret you delete features without having verified if they are current or > not. Good point. Since it is not "verifiable" 92% of the time, it has nothing to do in OSM. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ....
On 08.11.13 12:17, Pieren wrote: > Please, don't tag events in OSM. Christmas trees are not an "event". They are built up on mostly the same spot every year (at least here in Vienna) and it of course makes sense to map them. I regret you delete features without having verified if they are current or not. /al ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Es weihnachtet wieder sehr ....
2013/11/8 Jan Tappenbeck : > Hoho ! > > in den letzten Tagen habe ich schon einige Anfragen bekommen - jetzt ist es > wieder soweit die OSM XMAS-Karte [1] wird wieder aktuallisiert und es können > die Daten wieder fleißig nachgeführt werden. Please, don't tag events in OSM. We don't delete roads when they are closed for one month. So don't add a christmass tree because it's there for 3 weeks. Add buildings and/or market places as much as you want but use apps like umap ([1]) for event map mashups. I deleted the 6 or 7 of your "xmas:feature" I found in France (mainly contributed by Germans), all coming from last year and, of course, never maintained (e.g. obsolete opening dates). Pieren BTW, wrong list ! [1] http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk