Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Hi, 2012/4/12 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: Thank you for the answers. And many thanks too for all the unique webservices and the exceptional work you all are doing in the machinery halls. Yours, S. One question related to this I've always wanted to ask you, is: When I download the newest daily extract, like e.g. switzerland.osm.pbf (timestamp usually around 4:00 AM), and I look inside the db for the most recent added node, this node has a creation-date of around 7 PM of the day before (currently node 1711815745 7:10 PM). How do you explain this delay of around 9 hours (= 7 PM till 4 AM next day)? Which machinery is it behind which takes around 9 hours to process extracts? Yours, S. 2012/4/12 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Stefan Keller wrote: Am I right that there are currently no updates available since April 9th at /osm/ and there doesn't exist the new /openstreetmap/ directory neither because we are waiting for the OSM board's approval of the new license? No, it's nothing to do with OSM(F) board approval. As explained at http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/05/license-change-update-getting-it-right/ , the coders working on the rebuild code are ironing out a few final issues before the process can begin. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Geofabrik-downloads-post-licence-change-tp5588668p5635061.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Hi, On 04/13/12 10:45, Stefan Keller wrote: One question related to this I've always wanted to ask you, is: When I download the newest daily extract, like e.g. switzerland.osm.pbf (timestamp usually around 4:00 AM), and I look inside the db for the most recent added node, this node has a creation-date of around 7 PM of the day before (currently node 1711815745 7:10 PM). I blogged about this a while ago: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=75 The process has changed a little meanwhile but basically it's still the same procedure. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
2012/4/13 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, On 04/13/12 10:45, Stefan Keller wrote: One question related to this I've always wanted to ask you, is: When I download the newest daily extract, like e.g. switzerland.osm.pbf (timestamp usually around 4:00 AM), and I look inside the db for the most recent added node, this node has a creation-date of around 7 PM of the day before (currently node 1711815745 7:10 PM). I blogged about this a while ago: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=75 The process has changed a little meanwhile but basically it's still the same procedure. Yes, I read that with interest. But there still remain more than 3 hours unexplained. You wrote there that the machinery at your office starts on 10:30 PM. But the latest feature added into the extract dates usually 9 PM. Yours, S. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
I wrote: You wrote there that the machinery at your office starts on 10:30 PM. But the latest feature added into the extract dates usually 9 PM. Sorry, I meant usually 7 PM not usually 9 PM: S. 2012/4/13 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: 2012/4/13 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, On 04/13/12 10:45, Stefan Keller wrote: One question related to this I've always wanted to ask you, is: When I download the newest daily extract, like e.g. switzerland.osm.pbf (timestamp usually around 4:00 AM), and I look inside the db for the most recent added node, this node has a creation-date of around 7 PM of the day before (currently node 1711815745 7:10 PM). I blogged about this a while ago: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=75 The process has changed a little meanwhile but basically it's still the same procedure. Yes, I read that with interest. But there still remain more than 3 hours unexplained. You wrote there that the machinery at your office starts on 10:30 PM. But the latest feature added into the extract dates usually 9 PM. Yours, S. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Hi, On 04/13/2012 12:18 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: But there still remain more than 3 hours unexplained. You wrote there that the machinery at your office starts on 10:30 PM. But the latest feature added into the extract dates usually 9 PM. A number of things play into this: * time at which I start the extract is not always constant, I change that from time to time * the extracts used to be based on hourly diffs not minutelies (but currently use minutelies) * time zone differences Currently the extract job runs at 21:15 local time which means that all changes until approx. 21:15 local (19:15 UTC) should be included, and indeed you'll find node #1713202488 is present on the current extract. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Frederick I just read your blog and I'm amazed the amount of effort and resources that go in to the download country files I have been taking for granted. I feel we all owe you and your's a tremendous vote of thanks. Mick On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:47:51 +0200 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 04/13/12 10:45, Stefan Keller wrote: One question related to this I've always wanted to ask you, is: When I download the newest daily extract, like e.g. switzerland.osm.pbf (timestamp usually around 4:00 AM), and I look inside the db for the most recent added node, this node has a creation-date of around 7 PM of the day before (currently node 1711815745 7:10 PM). I blogged about this a while ago: http://blog.geofabrik.de/?p=75 The process has changed a little meanwhile but basically it's still the same procedure. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Hi, On 04/12/12 10:02, Stefan Keller wrote: Am I right that there are currently no updates available since April 9th at /osm/ A hiccup in the rsync process that I fixed this morning; new files will be available shortly. and there doesn't exist the new /openstreetmap/ directory neither That's right. I will probably amend my original plan slightly, adding to /osm (current CC-BY-SA data) and /openstreetmap (new ODbL data) a third URL named /osm-old or so, where I keep a pre-redaction-bot static CC-BY-SA version of everything. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Stefan Keller wrote: Am I right that there are currently no updates available since April 9th at /osm/ and there doesn't exist the new /openstreetmap/ directory neither because we are waiting for the OSM board's approval of the new license? No, it's nothing to do with OSM(F) board approval. As explained at http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/05/license-change-update-getting-it-right/ , the coders working on the rebuild code are ironing out a few final issues before the process can begin. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Geofabrik-downloads-post-licence-change-tp5588668p5635061.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik downloads post-licence-change
Thank you for the answers. And many thanks too for all the unique webservices and the exceptional work you all are doing in the machinery halls. Yours, S. 2012/4/12 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Stefan Keller wrote: Am I right that there are currently no updates available since April 9th at /osm/ and there doesn't exist the new /openstreetmap/ directory neither because we are waiting for the OSM board's approval of the new license? No, it's nothing to do with OSM(F) board approval. As explained at http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/05/license-change-update-getting-it-right/ , the coders working on the rebuild code are ironing out a few final issues before the process can begin. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Geofabrik-downloads-post-licence-change-tp5588668p5635061.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk