Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
2014-12-02 10:05 GMT+01:00 Frédéric Rodrigo : > In the spirit of free (as libre for sure), I think we must encourage to > open data to everybody when is possible rather than just make release > agreement. I'm not talk about share-alike or not, but just try make think > open, for everyone. yes, I partly agree. Both variants have their pros and cons, (unless they decide to release under PD / CC0 what obviously is the best in terms of freedom). I'll give you an example: we have obtained in 2010 the permission from the national cartographic portal [1] to [derive features for osm from their aerial imagery distributed as WMS]. No mention of a license (or a particular dataset). When we changed the license in 2012 it didn't change anything, we can still derive features (and do this) until now. By the time they issued the permission, there was only imagery from 2006 and 2008, but since some time there is also imagery from 2012 which we still can use under the old, generic permission from 2010. If they had released a particular dataset under a particular license we probably wouldn't have been able to integrate new material as seamlessly as it was possible with this type of "for OSM"-permission, and maybe we would even have had to remove data due to the license change in 2012. cheers, Martin [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ITALY_Auth_portale_cartografico_nazionale.png ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
Hi, In the spirit of free (as libre for sure), I think we must encourage to open data to everybody when is possible rather than just make release agreement. I'm not talk about share-alike or not, but just try make think open, for everyone. My 2 cents. Frédéric. Le 02/12/2014 00:53, Dave Corley a écrit : Hi, I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we want. To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. Does such a thing exist? If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) Thanks, Dave (DaCor) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
If you email it to me I can host it so others can see and download it. Thanks John On 1 December 2014 at 19:34, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Since we are limited in the size of the emails, I will send you a copy of > an Agreement form used before for such agreements. You can then see with > the Legal group if this content is ok. > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* Dave Corley > *À :* talk@openstreetmap.org > *Envoyé le :* Lundi 1 décembre 2014 18h53 > *Objet :* [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release > data to OSM > > Hi, > > I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part > of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various > govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking > to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. > > There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move > constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and > maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we > want. > > To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release > data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that > essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data > to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission > to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which > they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the > releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a > possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. > > Does such a thing exist? > > If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get > something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) > > Thanks, > Dave (DaCor) > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
Pierre, Thanks for the quick response. That's exactly what I was looking for. I'll drop a mail to the legal group to get their feedback Thanks again, Dave On 2 Dec 2014 00:41, "Arlindo Pereira" wrote: > Can you post this online on the wiki, or send it to my email so I can do > so? I'd like to have access to that document, as well as translating it to > portuguese and use it here on Brazil. > > Thanks. > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> Since we are limited in the size of the emails, I will send you a copy of >> an Agreement form used before for such agreements. You can then see with >> the Legal group if this content is ok. >> >> Pierre >> >> -- >> *De :* Dave Corley >> *À :* talk@openstreetmap.org >> *Envoyé le :* Lundi 1 décembre 2014 18h53 >> *Objet :* [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release >> data to OSM >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part >> of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various >> govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking >> to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. >> >> There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move >> constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and >> maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we >> want. >> >> To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release >> data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that >> essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data >> to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission >> to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which >> they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the >> releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a >> possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. >> >> Does such a thing exist? >> >> If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get >> something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) >> >> Thanks, >> Dave (DaCor) >> >> >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> >> >> ___ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
Can you post this online on the wiki, or send it to my email so I can do so? I'd like to have access to that document, as well as translating it to portuguese and use it here on Brazil. Thanks. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Since we are limited in the size of the emails, I will send you a copy of > an Agreement form used before for such agreements. You can then see with > the Legal group if this content is ok. > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* Dave Corley > *À :* talk@openstreetmap.org > *Envoyé le :* Lundi 1 décembre 2014 18h53 > *Objet :* [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release > data to OSM > > Hi, > > I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part > of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various > govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking > to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. > > There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move > constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and > maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we > want. > > To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release > data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that > essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data > to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission > to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which > they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the > releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a > possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. > > Does such a thing exist? > > If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get > something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) > > Thanks, > Dave (DaCor) > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM
Hi Dave, Since we are limited in the size of the emails, I will send you a copy of an Agreement form used before for such agreements. You can then see with the Legal group if this content is ok. Pierre De : Dave Corley À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 1 décembre 2014 18h53 Objet : [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM Hi, I'm putting together some resources for a visit to Lesotho in Feb as part of the #MapLesotho initiative during which we will be meeting with various govt. and community groups, some of which will have data we will be looking to make use of e.g. boundary data, schools data, location names etc etc. There will be a group of us there for 2 weeks and we will be on the move constantly so I'm trying to make sure we only have to do one visit and maybe one follow up phone call to each group we visit who have data we want. To make this as seamless as possible, where a party has agreed to release data to OSM, I want to be able to provide them with a document that essentially only requires them to fill in the blanks (name of party, data to be released, etc), which, once signed, gives us the necessary permission to use their data. At the very least, it could act as a template upon which they could draft their own version if need be. Basically I want to make the releasing of data as easy as possible and the drafting of permission is a possible roadblock that I hope can be avoided by being prepared in advance. Does such a thing exist? If not, who would be a good point-of-contact to engage with to get something like this drafted? (Legal WG?) Thanks, Dave (DaCor) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
