Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors

2008-03-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

 I keep having 412 errors when trying to modify a certain route  
 relation
 (id=3964, runs from Antwerp to the Netherlands in Belgium).

Possibly an object referenced by that relation got deleted somehow  
and now you can't upload changes as that would refer to a deleted  
object. Shouldn't happen, I'll investigate later today.

 Therefore this question: is there some way to get more info from the
 server about the specific nature of this problem?

Not currently.

 PS: is there any work being done into finally properly supporting  
 route
 relations in the editors? It still randomly happens now and then that
 routes get broken because an editor lets a user split or join roads
 with relations on them.

I have ideas how to handle this in JOSM but haven't done anything  
about them yet. For Potlatch, I think I read that there's a pending  
0.8 release that works with (certain types of) relations.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors

2008-03-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote:

 PS: is there any work being done into finally properly supporting
 route
 relations in the editors? It still randomly happens now and then that
 routes get broken because an editor lets a user split or join roads
 with relations on them.

 I have ideas how to handle this in JOSM but haven't done anything
 about them yet. For Potlatch, I think I read that there's a pending
 0.8 release that works with (certain types of) relations.

Yep, Potlatch 0.8 has good relations support (thanks to Dave Stubbs)  
and should be available as soon as TomH returns and can deploy it.

It's worth pointing out that Potlatch will never _forbid_ you from  
joining or splitting a way because of any properties of that way.  
Popping up an alert saying You can't do that due to some weird data- 
model magic that you probably don't understand is bad UI. The design  
philosophy is, rather, to make it clear what you've done.

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-talk] Relation 412 errors

2008-03-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

 Popping up an alert saying You can't do that due to some weird data- 
 model magic that you probably don't understand is bad UI. The design  
 philosophy is, rather, to make it clear what you've done.

... and THEN pop up an alert saying ouch, look what you've DONE! ;-)

Bye
Frederik

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