Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it wrote:
 Hi,

 Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM
 or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day
 Irene

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http://josm.openstreetmap.de

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Irene Pucci
Ok! Thank you so much!
Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by mail 
or other by other nstruments...

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To: Irene Pucci
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it wrote:
 Hi,

 Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM
 or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day
 Irene

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http://josm.openstreetmap.de

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Gregory
I think there is a setting in JOSM where you specify how often (number of
days) it checks for a new version. So after X days it gives a pop up (when
you run JOSM) if there is a new version. Or is that just for plugins?
Probably just for plugins actually, as there is technically a new version of
every JOSM every night, though it could contain really untested stuff.

When you launch JOSM and don't open any files, the background is a Message
of the Day and can give the latest news (such as important updates).

I don't have JOSM to hand right now.

On 21 April 2010 02:52, Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it wrote:

 Ok! Thank you so much!
 Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by
 mail or other by other nstruments...

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
 Sent: mercoledì 21 aprile 2010 11.37
 To: Irene Pucci
 Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM


 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Anyone knows if there is the possibility to have new updates for JOSM
  or where I can find it? Thank you so much, have a nice day
  Irene

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/21 Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it:
 Ok! Thank you so much!
 Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by mail 
 or other by other nstruments...

If you use Linux there are also scripts available, that check
automatically on startup if there is a new version available and
download and install them automatically.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Gregory
While we're on the subject of JOSM user questions...

Is there a way I can make all my new nodes/ways be given the same value for
source. Like a function that I can set to OS_OpenData_... and turn on when
I have a tracing session.
I'm not sure how it should deal with me adjusting locations(or adding nodes
to a way), probably best to just ignore it.

It would be really handy and save me having to remember to add the source
tag everytime.

On 21 April 2010 04:25, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/4/21 Irene Pucci ipu...@navionics.it:
  Ok! Thank you so much!
  Do you know if there is a way to know when the updates come out? Like by
 mail or other by other nstruments...

 If you use Linux there are also scripts available, that check
 automatically on startup if there is a new version available and
 download and install them automatically.

 cheers,
 Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Sebastian Klein
Gregory wrote:
 While we're on the subject of JOSM user questions...
 
 Is there a way I can make all my new nodes/ways be given the same value 
 for source. Like a function that I can set to OS_OpenData_... and turn 
 on when I have a tracing session.
 I'm not sure how it should deal with me adjusting locations(or adding 
 nodes to a way), probably best to just ignore it.
 
 It would be really handy and save me having to remember to add the 
 source tag everytime.

Yes, you can search (Ctrl+F) for id:0. This will select all new 
objects. Another search term is modified which will select every 
object that will be uploaded.

I'm not sure if it is useful to tag every single node like this. Maybe 
it is enough to put the tags on the ways. (id:0 type:way)

Btw. you can add a source tag to your changeset in the upload dialog. 
But that's more for the record, other users won't see it in the future 
unless they query the changeset.

Sebastian

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.comwrote:



yes this is important. don't tag nodes if they have no other tags. will just
increase the DB size with no value. imports did this and bots have cleaned
up so good to stick with it



 Btw. you can add a source tag to your changeset in the upload dialog.
 But that's more for the record, other users won't see it in the future
 unless they query the changeset.


much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an
object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the object
itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it still
the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with
Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ...
adding a chain of source isn't useful at all



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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 April 2010 08:41, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
 much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an
 object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the object
 itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it still
 the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with
 Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ...
 adding a chain of source isn't useful at all

you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the
current version, the source should reflect the last used source of
information.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 22 April 2010 08:41, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
  much better for a simple reason. anyone can delete the source tag form an
  object. having it on the changeset is as visible as having it on the
 object
  itself. only history of object will show it. And think about it is it
 still
  the same source if user A uploads a gpx and user B des adjustments with
  Yahoo, user C adjusts based on topo map ...
  adding a chain of source isn't useful at all

 you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the
 current version, the source should reflect the last used source of
 information.


that's what I have written
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Re: [OSM-talk] Updates for JOSM

2010-04-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 April 2010 09:20, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
 you can't delete the source tag from historical versions, only the
 current version, the source should reflect the last used source of
 information.

 that's what I have written

Yes but you came to the conclusion that's a bad thing and some how
storing information in the changeset is better...

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