Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
2009/12/24 John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net: Lol, you guys. I've got one of these which is nice as a small relatively cheap tracker: http://is.gd/5xCPn It's not perfect, fiddly to set up (can work with my site http://mapme.at though) and only pings updates every 30s maximum. Battery's not great either but can manage for maybe 5 hours or so (and comes with a spare so perhaps you could wire them up together before wrapping in duct tape and putting in an airtight container). Depending on voltage (multiples of 1.5v are nice) you might be able to get one of those big plastic jars they sell fruit in these days, stick all the batteries in the container then duck tape it. However, what's the range on the dog collars? That said, 30s updates would be ok for slow running water, but anything that was slightly swift might be too quick. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
On 24 Dec 2009, at 02:01, Anthony wrote: How about a dog tracker?: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 $599 (USD)? Err... that's for the whole lot. As I clearly stated only the collar transmitter might need replacing. My bad. You're right. I realize this isn't the most serious thread, but it would be nice if, just once, you'd read what was posted, instead of knee jerking to be argumentative. C'mon, honest mistake. I even wrote that nice response above before I read your assholish remark. Lol, you guys. I've got one of these which is nice as a small relatively cheap tracker: http://is.gd/5xCPn It's not perfect, fiddly to set up (can work with my site http://mapme.at though) and only pings updates every 30s maximum. Battery's not great either but can manage for maybe 5 hours or so (and comes with a spare so perhaps you could wire them up together before wrapping in duct tape and putting in an airtight container). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
John Smith wrote: 2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device I had the same thought in about June, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing since you would have to figure out how to recover it and that's assuming it doesn't get snagged on something or stolen. About the same time someone announced a GPS received + GSM transmittor for shoes for dimentia/alzhimers patients, the would require close proximity to a phone network, which may not be as much of an issue in other countries as it is here. How about a dog tracker?: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 If the collar got stuck at least you'd be able to find it. replacing the transmitter would be cheaper than a GPS unit if it sunk. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: John Smith wrote: 2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device I had the same thought in about June, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing since you would have to figure out how to recover it and that's assuming it doesn't get snagged on something or stolen. About the same time someone announced a GPS received + GSM transmittor for shoes for dimentia/alzhimers patients, the would require close proximity to a phone network, which may not be as much of an issue in other countries as it is here. How about a dog tracker?: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 $599 (USD)? Just throw your $399 (USD) Android Dev Phone in the river, running one of the dozen tracking apps :). It'd be a fun experiment, but a monetarily risky one. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
Anthony wrote: On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: John Smith wrote: 2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com mailto:robin.paul...@gmail.com: i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device I had the same thought in about June, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing since you would have to figure out how to recover it and that's assuming it doesn't get snagged on something or stolen. About the same time someone announced a GPS received + GSM transmittor for shoes for dimentia/alzhimers patients, the would require close proximity to a phone network, which may not be as much of an issue in other countries as it is here. How about a dog tracker?: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 $599 (USD)? Err... that's for the whole lot. As I clearly stated only the collar transmitter might need replacing. I realize this isn't the most serious thread, but it would be nice if, just once, you'd read what was posted, instead of knee jerking to be argumentative. Just throw your $399 (USD) Android Dev Phone in the river, running one of the dozen tracking apps :). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
How about a dog tracker?: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209pID=8576 $599 (USD)? Err... that's for the whole lot. As I clearly stated only the collar transmitter might need replacing. My bad. You're right. I realize this isn't the most serious thread, but it would be nice if, just once, you'd read what was posted, instead of knee jerking to be argumentative. C'mon, honest mistake. I even wrote that nice response above before I read your assholish remark. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device I had the same thought in about June, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing since you would have to figure out how to recover it and that's assuming it doesn't get snagged on something or stolen. About the same time someone announced a GPS received + GSM transmittor for shoes for dimentia/alzhimers patients, the would require close proximity to a phone network, which may not be as much of an issue in other countries as it is here. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to map flowing water the easy way?
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:02 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/23 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i had an idea recently, that it might be possible to map a stream or small river (in an area with poor aerial photo coverage) by using a gps in a waterproof container attached to a flotation device I had the same thought in about June, but decided it wasn't worth pursuing since you would have to figure out how to recover it and that's assuming it doesn't get snagged on something or stolen. About the same time someone announced a GPS received + GSM transmittor for shoes for dimentia/alzhimers patients, the would require close proximity to a phone network, which may not be as much of an issue in other countries as it is here. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Same idea, similar problem. Also most streams around here ends up in large rivers, it is also impossible to follow along/close to most of these streams. It can pass through large areas with no GSM coverage, so the only way to track them would be radio beacons, HF-transmitters with good power output is heavy and would require a large floatation device, something that increases the chance for snagging and also damages when passing over waterfalls. Another solution could be to follow Whitewater techniques for gathering tracks, though that would eliminate a lot of streams with too little waterflow to pass in river qayaks, and would interupt the tracks around waterfalls. Whitewater enthusiasts can use this as an excuse to explore river streatches that are not that common for whitewater activeties, and also long expeditions along calmer water. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
