Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Robert Vollmert rvollmert-li...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 there seem to be a few Garmin users around here. If you'd like to give
 routable OSM-derived maps a try, there's some instructions on the wiki
 at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/routing . The support is
 still quite incomplete both because the Garmin format isn't completely
 understood and because of bugs. More the latter, probably. Help on
 either topic would be appreciated.

Awesome. Are there any docs anywhere being made for the routing format
similar to the venerable
http://sourceforge.net/projects/garmin-img ?

Also, when I was putting it together yesterday I saw osm2mp.pl
suggesting it was dealing with turn restrictions (although on reading
the code, it's not exactly sophisticated logic!). But when I was
playing with it last night my eTrex it was ignoring them. Am I
expecting too much, or would you expect turn restrictions to work?

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-12 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 12, 2008, at 16:43, Andy Allan wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Robert Vollmert rvollmert-li...@gmx.net 
  wrote:
 Hi all,

 there seem to be a few Garmin users around here. If you'd like to  
 give
 routable OSM-derived maps a try, there's some instructions on the  
 wiki
 at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/routing . The support is
 still quite incomplete both because the Garmin format isn't  
 completely
 understood and because of bugs. More the latter, probably. Help on
 either topic would be appreciated.

 Awesome. Are there any docs anywhere being made for the routing format
 similar to the venerable
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/garmin-img ?

There's some documentation on the NOD file in 
http://svn.parabola.me.uk/display/trunk/doc/nod.txt 
  . That covers the routing graph. I don't think the NET file is  
currently documented, though i may be missing something. Apart from  
that, it's in the code for the moment. There's also  
libgarmin.sourceforge.net  (IMG reader for navit) and its wiki.

 Also, when I was putting it together yesterday I saw osm2mp.pl
 suggesting it was dealing with turn restrictions (although on reading
 the code, it's not exactly sophisticated logic!). But when I was
 playing with it last night my eTrex it was ignoring them. Am I
 expecting too much, or would you expect turn restrictions to work?

mkgmap doesn't write restrictions for the moment. For simple from-via- 
to restrictions, this is a matter of writing the code, since that part  
is understood.

Cheers
Robert


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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Robert Vollmert
rvollmert-li...@gmx.net wrote:

 Also, when I was putting it together yesterday I saw osm2mp.pl
 suggesting it was dealing with turn restrictions (although on reading
 the code, it's not exactly sophisticated logic!). But when I was
 playing with it last night my eTrex it was ignoring them. Am I
 expecting too much, or would you expect turn restrictions to work?

 mkgmap doesn't write restrictions for the moment. For simple from-via-to
 restrictions, this is a matter of writing the code, since that part is
 understood.

Thanks, I'll stop fiddling with my GPS making tiny simulated routes
for the moment then!

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-07 Thread Andy Street
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 17:12 +0100, Robert Vollmert wrote:
 there seem to be a few Garmin users around here. If you'd like to give  
 routable OSM-derived maps a try, there's some instructions on the wiki  
 at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/routing . The support is  
 still quite incomplete both because the Garmin format isn't completely  
 understood and because of bugs. More the latter, probably. Help on  
 either topic would be appreciated.


First off I'd like to thank everyone who has been working on this, it's
a great addition for anyone using OSM on a Garmin device.

I had a go at producing a routable map for my local area but whenever I
transfer it to my eTrex Vista HCX it always routes on the in-built
basemap no matter what I try. 

I built the maps with the following commands[0]:

  * wget -O meonvalley-20081207.osm

http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/map?bbox=-1.2514,50.8892,-1.0928,50.9916;
  * perl osm2mp.pl meonvalley-20081207.osm  meonvalley-20081207.mp
  * java -Xmx512M -jar mkgmap-route-779/mkgmap.jar --route
meonvalley-20081207.mp

The image is then transferred to the Garmin via USB mass storage.

If anyone who has successfully built a routable map can shed any light
on what I'm doing wrong I would be most grateful. 

Cheers,

Andy

[0] I've uploaded copies of the files created in the process to
http://www.andystreet.me.uk/garmin/


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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-07 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 7, 2008, at 17:39, Andy Street wrote:
 I had a go at producing a routable map for my local area but  
 whenever I
 transfer it to my eTrex Vista HCX it always routes on the in-built
 basemap no matter what I try.

It seems you're doing everything right. The gmapsupp.img you generated  
looks fine to me. Some routing data was generated, at least. Probably  
the data we're writing is just wrong in your case.

One thing you could try is to run mkgmap with assertions and logging:

java -enableassertions -Dlog.config=resources/logging.properties -jar  
mkgmap.jar

is what I use, but it's possible you need to be in the dist directory  
for java to find the logging.properties file.

Thanks for your feedback!

Cheers
Robert


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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-07 Thread Andy Street
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 18:57 +0100, Robert Vollmert wrote:
 On Dec 7, 2008, at 17:39, Andy Street wrote:
  I had a go at producing a routable map for my local area but  
  whenever I
  transfer it to my eTrex Vista HCX it always routes on the in-built
  basemap no matter what I try.
 
 It seems you're doing everything right. The gmapsupp.img you generated  
 looks fine to me. Some routing data was generated, at least. Probably  
 the data we're writing is just wrong in your case.
 
 One thing you could try is to run mkgmap with assertions and logging:
 
 java -enableassertions -Dlog.config=resources/logging.properties -jar  
 mkgmap.jar
 
 is what I use, but it's possible you need to be in the dist directory  
 for java to find the logging.properties file.

Interesting, I added the debug options above and it generated a working
image. When I get some spare time I'll do some further testing and see
if I can nail down exactly what is going on.

Thanks for all your help.

Cheers,

Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] mkgmap makes routable garmin maps

2008-12-06 Thread sylvain letuffe
Le samedi 6 décembre 2008 17:12, Robert Vollmert a écrit :
 Hi all,

 there seem to be a few Garmin users around here. If you'd like to give
 routable OSM-derived maps a try, there's some instructions on the wiki
 at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/routing 

This is a very very good news ! I was waiting very long for that !

I'll give it a try right now and give comments on the wiki

Bravo to all persons involved !
 
--
sly
sylvain letuffe

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