Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
At 2012-06-12 17:39, maning sambale wrote: As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the same area. This area for reference: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18 Using JOSM r5181: In that area, I can get down/in to zoom 19, dated 2011-09-14. This is 0.3m/pel (~30m on the 1" scale bar) - enough to see individual cars and the buildings with which some OSM ways are poorly aligned :) Unfortunately, there is some cloud/fog-cover that obscures some areas completely. The high-res extends west only to ~123.265 deg longitude and, when zoomed down/in further than about zoom 14 (9.4m/pel (1":940m)), there is no imagery at all west to ~123.245 deg (a swath ~2200m wide), before the zoom 13 (18.8m/pel, 1":1880m) imagery area. That should probably be reported. Bing tends to have these at interfaces between different image sets, but there are usually just a few meters, unlike this one. The imagery cache path is given in the Preferences dialog, Advanced Preferences, key imagery.tms.tilecache_path. Under that directory, there are separate directories for each particular WMS/TMS source, each of which contain a ton of files. I don't know what it's like on a Mac, but it takes many hours to remove those directories on Windows (the subject of a recent JOSM change request) if you want to flush the cache. You can also flush the cache for a particular source by creating a layer with it in JOSM, then right-clicking (or whatever your context-menu-key is) and choosing "Flush cache". This may be quicker, or not. Lastly, or maybe firstly, check the Imagery URL you are using (Preferences->Imagery Preferences). It should be "bing:http://www.bing.com/maps/";. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
I had the same problem in my instance of JOSM. What I did was to delete all cache directories in my .josm directory and it seemed to work. I guess I deleted the bing.attribution.xml file in the process. :) On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: > On 13-06-2012 02:39, maning sambale wrote:> As the subject says, we spotted > new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can > >> load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the >> same area. > > Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: > > %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows > > ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux > > This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be > cached. > > https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7778 > > -- > Jonas Häggqvist > rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
On 6/13/2012 5:58 PM, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be cached. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7778 Thanks - that worked here! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
On 13-06-2012 02:39, maning sambale wrote:> As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can > load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the > same area. Remove bing.attribution.xml from the cache dir: %APPDATA%\JOSM\cache\bing.attribution.xml on Windows ~/.josm/cache/bing.attribution.xml on Linux This appears to be a JOSM bug, as the attribution file/config should not be cached. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7778 -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
On 6/13/2012 4:06 PM, hbogner wrote: Try to delete the cache :D I posted this to talk-US - I have 2 instances of JOSM - one 'works', and the other always shows the 'old imagery'. I removed all cached images from the JOSM settings folder, and the shared %TEMP%\JmapViewer_UserName cache (for Windows). I ran a Procmon trace, and cannot see that it accesses any image files from any other folder. The only thing I haven't done is a network trace to see what the difference between the 2 instances is, as well as double checking and comparing the cached image file contents between instances. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
Try to delete the cache :D On 06/13/2012 02:39 AM, maning sambale wrote: As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the same area. This area for reference: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
2012/6/13 maning sambale : > 1. Right-click > Flush tile cache doesn't work > 2. Manual removing > "/var/folders/Zp/ZpOE5tJJEy0E3dZIW-0jkU+++TM/-Tmp-/JMapViewerTiles_maning" > doesn't work either. > > Finally, I deleted my ".josm" directory and now it works on the mac. > Perhaps it's having trouble with old plugins? > > Anyway, all is good now. :) Thanks! On Linux I think the default folder for the imagery cache is ~/.josm/cache/wms cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
1. Right-click > Flush tile cache doesn't work 2. Manual removing "/var/folders/Zp/ZpOE5tJJEy0E3dZIW-0jkU+++TM/-Tmp-/JMapViewerTiles_maning" doesn't work either. Finally, I deleted my ".josm" directory and now it works on the mac. Perhaps it's having trouble with old plugins? Anyway, all is good now. :) Thanks! On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Mike N wrote: > And a big thanks to the Bing Team for getting this imagery update out. It's > a huge help in keeping maps current! > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
And a big thanks to the Bing Team for getting this imagery update out. It's a huge help in keeping maps current! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:01:04 Kate Chapman wrote: > Hi Maning, > > JOSM caches the old imagery if you clear the cache it will fix the issue. Right, right-click on the editing area and select 'Flush tile cache'. Best wishes, Andrew ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
Hi Maning, JOSM caches the old imagery if you clear the cache it will fix the issue. -Kate On 13 Jun 2012 08:39, "maning sambale" wrote: > I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old > hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates. > > You can see the outline of the old imagery here: > http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#10.685173,122.583121,17 > > Click the bing baselayer to see the updated imagery. In josm, only > the old imagery is visible. > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com > wrote: > > Make sure you are viewing the highest zoom levels (z18-19) when trying > to look for the highres imagery. > > > > This trick showed some additional hires imagery for some areas in Haiti > last year. It was in JOSM, though and the bug may have been solved (haven't > checked actually). .. So, may not help you but good to try. > > > > Cheers, > > -Jaakko > > > > --Original Message-- > > From: maning sambale > > To: osm-talk > > Subject: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? > > Sent: Jun 12, 2012 20:39 > > > > As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can > > load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the > > same area. > > > > This area for reference: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18 > > > > -- > > cheers, > > maning > > -- > > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > > -- > > > > ___ > > talk mailing list > > talk@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel > > -- > > Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
Moving along, I can view the updated imagery using JOSM in Ubuntu. For the mac, I found this, /var/folders/Zp/ZpOE5tJJEy0E3dZIW-0jkU+++TM/-Tmp-/JMapViewerTiles_username Which I then cleared, opening JOSM again in Mac, I still get the old hires imagery and not the new ones. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:40 AM, maning sambale wrote: > I use mac and linux, I can't find the "JMapViewerTiles_username" in my > mac system. Using the latest JOSM ver 5278. > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman wrote: >>> From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM >>> To: jaa...@helleranta.com >>> Cc: osm-talk >>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? >>> >>> I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old >>> hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates. >> >> Check your JMapViewerTiles cache. On windows this is in >> %TEMP%\JMapViewerTiles_username\ >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
I use mac and linux, I can't find the "JMapViewerTiles_username" in my mac system. Using the latest JOSM ver 5278. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman wrote: >> From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM >> To: jaa...@helleranta.com >> Cc: osm-talk >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? >> >> I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old >> hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates. > > Check your JMapViewerTiles cache. On windows this is in > %TEMP%\JMapViewerTiles_username\ > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
> From: maning sambale [mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 6:38 PM > To: jaa...@helleranta.com > Cc: osm-talk > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? > > I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old > hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates. Check your JMapViewerTiles cache. On windows this is in %TEMP%\JMapViewerTiles_username\ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
I don't think this is the case because when I am using JOSM, the old hires imagery is loaded instead of the updates. You can see the outline of the old imagery here: http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#10.685173,122.583121,17 Click the bing baselayer to see the updated imagery. In josm, only the old imagery is visible. On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: > Make sure you are viewing the highest zoom levels (z18-19) when trying to > look for the highres imagery. > > This trick showed some additional hires imagery for some areas in Haiti last > year. It was in JOSM, though and the bug may have been solved (haven't > checked actually). .. So, may not help you but good to try. > > Cheers, > -Jaakko > > --Original Message-- > From: maning sambale > To: osm-talk > Subject: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? > Sent: Jun 12, 2012 20:39 > > As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can > load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the > same area. > > This area for reference: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18 > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel > -- > Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?
Make sure you are viewing the highest zoom levels (z18-19) when trying to look for the highres imagery. This trick showed some additional hires imagery for some areas in Haiti last year. It was in JOSM, though and the bug may have been solved (haven't checked actually). .. So, may not help you but good to try. Cheers, -Jaakko --Original Message-- From: maning sambale To: osm-talk Subject: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM? Sent: Jun 12, 2012 20:39 As the subject says, we spotted new imagery from Bing. Potlatch2 can load the imagery, but JOSM still shows the lowres Landsat image of the same area. This area for reference: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.305565&lon=123.308057&zoom=18 -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
