Re: [OSM-talk] new payment type
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Greg Knisely g...@mapzen.com wrote: From a routing/driving directions perspective, I was hoping to determine if the user needs to slow down at all where a toll exists if they use an ETC device. That would be a short segment of maxspeed=25mph or whatever. Open road tolling would have a constant maxspeed. Each functional element should have it's own tag: when too much is implicit it creates problems down the road. For example the same ETC device may be open road in some areas, require a slow approach elsewhere, and in yet another place involve stopping for a toll taker. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new payment type
First, thank you both for the feedback. From a routing/driving directions perspective, I was hoping to determine if the user needs to slow down at all where a toll exists if they use an ETC device. Obviously, if you have to pay with cash, your route will take longer. I was looking for general payment types (cash, coin, transponder) so that this costing can be done. However, I do see benefits of calling out the ETC device as well. Thank you for your time. --Greg. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Greg Knisely g...@mapzen.com wrote: I think for that situation it could be easily handled with payment:transponder=ez_pass;pikepass. This is what is used for other tags. A great example of this is the ref tag. As for payment:fasttrak=no, I think if one would just leave the tag off that would imply that it is not accepted. I generally explicitly tag toll lanes in areas one would normally expect the tag in question, since there's plenty of cash only lanes that dont take the ETC tag, and ETC lanes that don't take cash. But they don't take...American Express. /PIKEPASS, it's everywhere you want to be? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new payment type
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Greg Knisely g...@mapzen.com wrote: From a routing/driving directions perspective, I was hoping to determine if the user needs to slow down at all where a toll exists if they use an ETC device. That would be a short segment of maxspeed=25mph or whatever. Open road tolling would have a constant maxspeed. Each functional element should have it's own tag: when too much is implicit it creates problems down the road. For example the same ETC device may be open road in some areas, require a slow approach elsewhere, and in yet another place involve stopping for a toll taker. Agreed. Just off the top of my head I can think of examples of every situation Bryce mentioned: On the Creek Turnpike, traffic sails through at full speed on the PIKEPASS lanes http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/83003432. The Muskogee Turnpike winds up with a rare example of per-lane speed limits in the US for PIKEPASS to bypass the toll plaza at speed http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/205585571. Meanwhile, on The Cimarron Turnpike at the Noble toll plaza, which also has an exit to US 177, PIKEPASS traffic slows down if it's staying on the turnpike http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/226015008, but all traffic exiting or entering at US 177, or through traffic that needs tourism information or a cash receipt, stops on the turnpike http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/226015011. Meanwhile Locust Grove has a stop sign http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1116722237, but it generally goes unenforced if you don't trigger the violation alarm, so most PIKEPASS users California roll that one at like, 40 MPH. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
